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Daniel Agger Decides To Quit Football

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I see that some posters are still so in love with Carra that they will never find a way out from his arse and their tongue will be brown forever.

Carra was a fantastic defensive defender but very average when it comes down to building up attacks. When Agger was out injured our opponent could concentrate on the other central defender and let Carra do the building up bit and suddenly our counter attacks was more or less gone.
 
Silky defender and had some fine games, but his injuries were crippling and he was often the prime reason we conceded goals by ball watching and losing his man.

Loved his love for the club but I'd take Skrtel in his prime over him any day.

I wouldn't even bother mentioning the likes of Carra or Hyppia as they were obviously a level above Agger.
 
I see that some posters are still so in love with Carra that they will never find a way out from his arse and their tongue will be brown forever.

Carra was a fantastic defensive defender but very average when it comes down to building up attacks. When Agger was out injured our opponent could concentrate on the other central defender and let Carra do the building up bit and suddenly our counter attacks was more or less gone.

Oh fuck off
 
I see that some posters are still so in love with Carra that they will never find a way out from his arse and their tongue will be brown forever.

Carra was a fantastic defensive defender but very average when it comes down to building up attacks. When Agger was out injured our opponent could concentrate on the other central defender and let Carra do the building up bit and suddenly our counter attacks was more or less gone.

The idea that Agger was good at building up attacks is often overdone by fans of his. However smooth he might have looked on the ball, his passes went to the opposition way too often. He could be effective in that role on a good day, but he had plenty of bad ones.
 
A bulk of our counter attacks were set up by reina. Agger just ran in to the opposition half. Then he'd either a) lose the ball and jog back. B) shoot wildly c) pass to the left back who generally was behind him
 
Yeah yeah you can go on all with all your 'he was not a good defender' drivel, doesn't change the fact that he was a rather complete defender when at the top of his game, and wanted by the best teams in the world too on several occasions. Not because he'd either a) lose the ball and jog back. B) shoot wildly c) pass to the left back who generally was behind him but because he mastered both the defensive and the attacking part of the game and always gave his utmost.

I have had to read a lot of bollocks on here in regards to Agger and I've certainly asked for a lot of it myself as I have been too biased in my opinions of him I admit that - but some of you have been massively polarized by my extremely positive Agger approach and you've turned equally sour the other way. That's a fucking fact.

Personally I also find it hard to compare defenders like Carra and Agger, they are supposed to be on the pitch together as a partnership as they are complementary with different qualities and strengths, like it should be. So when Brendan and other ridicule posters for actually rating a player of Agger's caliber above the ones of Carra's I find it an equally biased view, just the other way around, because how do you really compare them? Tackles won? Defensive headers? Completed passes? Goals? Do the best clubs in the world want them? Etc. I rated them both very highly and for me they were both among my favorite players during their time, but I believe Carra on a whole have had a greater impact on our team and was a more important player for us - mainly down to the other being far too injured.

I think it's far easier to compare the likes of Agger and Skrtel as they have many of the same traits, both bad and good, and I am honesty baffled still as to how Skrtel of the two survived the longest in our club as he in my opinion is/was the lesser of the two in almost every aspect of the game, from defense to attack. That is my opinion and I know that outside the borders of 6CM, where this opinion is allowed, there are many that share that exact thought with me.

Actually now that I've opened the can of worms, for me Lucas and Skrtel are the epitome of what has been wrong with our transfer dealings for quite some time - we've sold on the great ones Alonso, Masher, Suarez, Torres, Agger and kept the run of the mill ones that will always give their utmost, are honest players etc., but surely doesn't have the acquired qualities to be sure starters in a team wanting to compete for top honors in the Premiership.

So, I know this post will probably ignite a shitestorm on here, and bring out the best in some of you, but I can deal with it, after all it's only opinions with regards to footballers. So let's have it.

*rolls up sleeves*
 
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I know you have a beef with Arn but do you really disagree with the footballing part of his post? Every team we ever met when we played with Carra and Agger or Skrtel and Agger always made sure to mark Agger so the other one would have to build up our play.

Why do you think they did that?
 
Yes, its the opposite. For some reason he doesn't get the credit he deserves from parts of our fans. He was brilliant.
 
It's the opposite. His qualities have always been diminished. He was a brilliant footballer, technically and mentally.

He's tarred with the "made it through sheer hard work" brush, which is very unfair. He looked a little less assured than other players at times, but he was an extremely good footballer and tactically brilliant.
 
Yeah yeah you can go on all with all your 'he was not a good defender' drivel, doesn't change the fact that he was a rather complete defender when at the top of his game, and wanted by the best teams in the world too on several occasions. Not because he'd either a) lose the ball and jog back. B) shoot wildly c) pass to the left back who generally was behind him but because he mastered both the defensive and the attacking part of the game and always gave his utmost.

I have had to read a lot of bollocks on here in regards to Agger and I've certainly asked for a lot of it myself as I have been too biased in my opinions of him I admit that - but some of you have been massively polarized by my extremely positive Agger approach and you've turned equally sour the other way. That's a fucking fact.

Personally I also find it hard to compare defenders like Carra and Agger, they are supposed to be on the pitch together as a partnership as they are complementary with different qualities and strengths, like it should be. So when Brendan and other ridicule posters for actually rating a player of Agger's caliber above the ones of Carra's I find it an equally biased view, just the other way around, because how do you really compare them? Tackles won? Defensive headers? Completed passes? Goals? Do the best clubs in the world want them? Etc. I rated them both very highly and for me they were both among my favorite players during their time, but I believe Carra on a whole have had a greater impact on our team and was a more important player for us - mainly down to the other being far too injured.

I think it's far easier to compare the likes of Agger and Skrtel as they have many of the same traits, both bad and good, and I am honesty baffled still as to how Skrtel of the two survived the longest in our club as he in my opinion is/was the lesser of the two in almost every aspect of the game, from defense to attack. That is my opinion and I know that outside the borders of 6CM, where this opinion is allowed, there are many that share that exact thought with me.

Actually now that I've opened the can of worms, for me Lucas and Skrtel are the epitome of what has been wrong with our transfer dealings for quite some time - we've sold on the great ones Alonso, Masher, Suarez, Torres, Agger and kept the run of the mill ones that will always give their utmost, are honest players etc., but surely doesn't have the acquired qualities to be sure starters in a team wanting to compete for top honors in the Premiership.

So, I know this post will probably ignite a shitestorm on here, and bring out the best in some of you, but I can deal with it, after all it's only opinions with regards to footballers. So let's have it.

*rolls up sleeves*

No sh!testorm from me for a good post overall.

Will pick up on one point only, and that's to disagree with your Agger/Skrtel comparison. Having watched them for years, both as a combo and separately, I don't agree with the view that Skrtel "was the lesser of the two in almost every respect". AFAIC that's a shallow, superficial kneejerk which confuses style with substance, rather than an accurate view of what actually happened out there on the pitch. Agger looked more stylish with the ball at his feet, so there's a tendency for some to assume that this automatically made him a better footballer. It didn't, and he wasn't. In addition to being quicker and stronger, Skrtel's distribution was often more reliable. Agger tried to be more constructive but frequently failed to make it count.
 
I truly believe from watching them both play for us +100 times that Agger is the better footballer. Skrtel has had some great spells in the team but is lacking the calmness, the game Intelligence and the flair to ever be considered a top defender. Imo.

He defo were quicker than Agger though, but stronger I am not so sure. Maybe you've also been blinded a bit by Agger's 'elegance' as he's actually quite strong himself and for starters never per default grabbed opponents shirts but focused on the fair physical challenge.

The thing is we will never agree on the matter and that's okay but truth is that Agger's rep on here compared to Skrtel's is pretty laughable.
 
I loved Agger and stuck up for him almost always, but Carragher is was and always will be a better defender.
 
Agger and Skrtel are different style wise but essentially are in exactly the same class bracket.

The 'Good' bracket.

Is the only trophy they ever won the 2012 league cup ?
 
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