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Crouch Speaks about Roffa

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localny

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I'll always be pro Rafa, but here's one of the moments of complete frustration for me too. AC Milan there for the taking and we show "caution". Crouch apparently not a big fan of the Rafa...


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Crouch, who famously took four months and 19 games to score his first goal for Liverpool, sat on the bench for 78 minutes of Liverpool's 2007 Champions League final defeat to AC Milan in Athens and it is still something that rankles the big striker.

"It was one of the most frustrating points of my career," Crouch told The Telegraph. "I'd scored a few goals in the run-up and went into that final thinking I'd play. But we played with Dirk Kuyt up front on his own.

"I remember warming up with Craig Bellamy and he's not shy about coming forward. Bellers was screaming 'we've got to get one of us on'. Milan weren't as good as before. If we'd gone for Milan we'd have got a result."

Crouch also revelaed that it was often confusing working under Benitez at Liverpool and found it difficult to figure out where he stood with the manager.

"When I was playing under Rafa I'd sometimes not know what he was thinking," Crouch said. "Rafa goes about his business differently to Harry Redknapp. Harry's honest in his assessment.

"If you've had a bad game, he'll tell you in no uncertain terms. If you've done really well for him, he'll put an arm round the shoulder and tell you how fantastic you are. I'd feel on top of the world. It was a guessing game with Rafa. Towards the end it was frustrating. I was doing well and not getting the chances I deserved. It would be nice to score in the San Siro."
 
Harry's style is different to Rafa's.

Cheers Lurch.

I don't think either are exactly perfect, but only one has won two European trophies and two league titles.

I think Crouch should be thankful to both managers equally. Redknapp has signed him about 8 times, and Benitez gave him a chance to play for Liverpool, and stuck with him when he didn't score for a year or whatever.
 
Roffa?

Tottenham's manager, players and fans seem to be piping up much more these days. I'd love to see them beaten tonight. Mouthy twats.
 
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=42338.msg1201639#msg1201639 date=1287573130]
Roffa?

Tottenham's manager, players and fans seem to be piping up much more these days. I'd love to see them beaten tonight. Mouthy twats.
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Yeah. Fucking Redknapp with his twitchy, jowly, wobbly gob does my fucking head in.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=42338.msg1201642#msg1201642 date=1287573231]
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=42338.msg1201639#msg1201639 date=1287573130]
Roffa?

Tottenham's manager, players and fans seem to be piping up much more these days. I'd love to see them beaten tonight. Mouthy twats.
[/quote]

Yeah. Fucking Redknapp with his twitchy, jowly, wobbly gob does my fucking head in.
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Yep he seems to have an opinion on anything and everything right now. He even defended Hicks and Gillett when there was no need for any comment.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=42338.msg1201642#msg1201642 date=1287573231]
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=42338.msg1201639#msg1201639 date=1287573130]
Roffa?

Tottenham's manager, players and fans seem to be piping up much more these days. I'd love to see them beaten tonight. Mouthy twats.
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Yeah. Fucking Redknapp with his twitchy, jowly, wobbly gob does my fucking head in.
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'bollock chops' redknapp. the stuff he wrote about G&H recently was beneath contempt, and i hope he gets what's coming to him when spurs come to anfield, viz death.
 
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=42338.msg1201655#msg1201655 date=1287574151]
He's a condescending hypocritical candle-faced cunt.
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Yea, but what he says about the 07 final is true 😉
 
[quote author=the count link=topic=42338.msg1201659#msg1201659 date=1287574300]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=42338.msg1201655#msg1201655 date=1287574151]
He's a condescending hypocritical candle-faced cunt.
[/quote]

Yea, but what he says about the 07 final is true 😉
[/quote]

And that's the only time he'll ever make a CL final because Rafa took him there!
 
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=42338.msg1201665#msg1201665 date=1287574499]
[quote author=the count link=topic=42338.msg1201659#msg1201659 date=1287574300]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=42338.msg1201655#msg1201655 date=1287574151]
He's a condescending hypocritical candle-faced cunt.
[/quote]

Yea, but what he says about the 07 final is true 😉
[/quote]

And that's the only time he'll ever make a CL final because Rafa took him there!
[/quote]

Yes, 07 final was just ridiculous. We were shackled. But Rafa did get us there... how lucky where we to have a manager that could take us there..
 
[quote author=localny link=topic=42338.msg1201680#msg1201680 date=1287575416]
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=42338.msg1201665#msg1201665 date=1287574499]
[quote author=the count link=topic=42338.msg1201659#msg1201659 date=1287574300]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=42338.msg1201655#msg1201655 date=1287574151]
He's a condescending hypocritical candle-faced cunt.
[/quote]

Yea, but what he says about the 07 final is true 😉
[/quote]

And that's the only time he'll ever make a CL final because Rafa took him there!
[/quote]

Yes, 07 final was just ridiculous. We were shackled. But Rafa did get us there... how lucky where we to have a manager that could take us there..
[/quote]

Getting there was great but counts for nothing. We lost!

We were lucky considering where we are now with Roy.........
 
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=42338.msg1201686#msg1201686 date=1287575799]
[quote author=localny link=topic=42338.msg1201680#msg1201680 date=1287575416]
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=42338.msg1201665#msg1201665 date=1287574499]
[quote author=the count link=topic=42338.msg1201659#msg1201659 date=1287574300]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=42338.msg1201655#msg1201655 date=1287574151]
He's a condescending hypocritical candle-faced cunt.
[/quote]

Yea, but what he says about the 07 final is true 😉
[/quote]

And that's the only time he'll ever make a CL final because Rafa took him there!
[/quote]

Yes, 07 final was just ridiculous. We were shackled. But Rafa did get us there... how lucky where we to have a manager that could take us there..
[/quote]

Getting there was great but counts for nothing. We lost!

We were lucky considering where we are now with Roy.........
[/quote]

Counts for something. As I said at the time, Rafa messed up, but he did get us there. Anyway, enough said.

I just can't believe we replaced him with someone so inferior.
 
Let's see Harry giving you the chance of playing in a CL final then Crouch, you big lumbering tit.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42338.msg1201744#msg1201744 date=1287580049]
Let's see Harry giving you the chance of playing in a CL final then Crouch, you big lumbering tit.
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yup!
 
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=42338.msg1201787#msg1201787 date=1287581943]
Nothing new.
Rafa lost us that final. That was the begining of the end for him.
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hardly leChacal.
 
[quote author=localny link=topic=42338.msg1201791#msg1201791 date=1287582047]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=42338.msg1201787#msg1201787 date=1287581943]
Nothing new.
Rafa lost us that final. That was the begining of the end for him.
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hardly leChacal.
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1st of 4 seasons without trophies and billions spent on shite.
Had he won that final in Athens he would still be our manager
 
ah come on. He got to a final - big achievement for our club...

By your logic, you could also argue that winning Istanbul was also the beginning of the end...

Alonso, Pako, and season 2009/10 was the the beginning of the end..
 
[quote author=localny link=topic=42338.msg1201798#msg1201798 date=1287582304]
ah come on. He got to a final - big achievement for our club...

By your logic, you could also argue that winning Istanbul was also the beginning of the end...

Alonso, Pako, and season 2009/10 was the the beginning of the end..
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Losing a final is not a big achievement. Especially when you play the very poor (at that time) Kuyt alone up front.
He got everything wrong in that final.
Rafa's mediocrity managed to make fans happy to lose a final.
Failure not achievement.
 
It's still annoys me to think about Athens.

Kuyt labouring up front on his own.
Pennant's "MOM performance (pukes).
Changing the midfield to disastarous effect in the 2nd half.

Gah.
 
It was Parry's fault. Or the lawyer. I always struggled with our formations after we changed the lawyer.
 
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=42338.msg1201816#msg1201816 date=1287583226]
[quote author=localny link=topic=42338.msg1201798#msg1201798 date=1287582304]
ah come on. He got to a final - big achievement for our club...

By your logic, you could also argue that winning Istanbul was also the beginning of the end...

Alonso, Pako, and season 2009/10 was the the beginning of the end..
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Losing a final is not a big achievement. Especially when you play the very poor (at that time) Kuyt alone up front.
He got everything wrong in that final.
Rafa's mediocrity managed to make fans happy to lose a final.
Failure not achievement.
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Rafa got us there, it was his to f$#k up. And he did, but he got us there. First manager to get us there since the 80's - hardly asking people to accept lower standards. I'll never understand why people who slag off Rafa's failings (like Athens and rightly so), can't understand how much he actually lifted the club back into Europe's elite.
 
[quote author=crump link=topic=42338.msg1201819#msg1201819 date=1287583521]
It was Parry's fault. Or the lawyer. I always struggled with our formations after we changed the lawyer.


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That final was definitely Rafa's fault, but so was the win in the semi's over Chelsea and numerous other wins along the way. Rafa had the good and the bad, but he was our best manager since the 80's, so as they say in Boston "Put some gratitude in your attitude"... 😛olice:
 
[quote author=localny link=topic=42338.msg1201822#msg1201822 date=1287583729]
[quote author=crump link=topic=42338.msg1201819#msg1201819 date=1287583521]
It was Parry's fault. Or the lawyer. I always struggled with our formations after we changed the lawyer.


[/quote]

That final was definitely Rafa's fault, but so was the win in the semi's over Chelsea and numerous other wins along the way. Rafa had the good and the bad, but he was our best manager since the 80's, so as they say in Boston "Put some gratitude in your attitude"... 😛olice:
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I'm well pleased he not only got us to another final, but that he arranged it to be held in a stadium with lacklustre security so you could just walk in. It's just this milky milky stuff is well funny.
 
[quote author=localny link=topic=42338.msg1201627#msg1201627 date=1287572608]
I'll always be pro Rafa, but here's one of the moments of complete frustration for me too. AC Milan there for the taking and we show "caution". Crouch apparently not a big fan of the Rafa...


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Crouch, who famously took four months and 19 games to score his first goal for Liverpool, sat on the bench for 78 minutes of Liverpool's 2007 Champions League final defeat to AC Milan in Athens and it is still something that rankles the big striker.

"It was one of the most frustrating points of my career," Crouch told The Telegraph. "I'd scored a few goals in the run-up and went into that final thinking I'd play. But we played with Dirk Kuyt up front on his own.

"I remember warming up with Craig Bellamy and he's not shy about coming forward. Bellers was screaming 'we've got to get one of us on'. Milan weren't as good as before. If we'd gone for Milan we'd have got a result."

Crouch also revelaed that it was often confusing working under Benitez at Liverpool and found it difficult to figure out where he stood with the manager.

"When I was playing under Rafa I'd sometimes not know what he was thinking," Crouch said. "Rafa goes about his business differently to Harry Redknapp. Harry's honest in his assessment.

"If you've had a bad game, he'll tell you in no uncertain terms. If you've done really well for him, he'll put an arm round the shoulder and tell you how fantastic you are. I'd feel on top of the world. It was a guessing game with Rafa. Towards the end it was frustrating. I was doing well and not getting the chances I deserved. It would be nice to score in the San Siro."


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Haha
 
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