Coutinho gone. 142m
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I agree with this. I'm not all that upset. It's clear that in Mane, Salah, Firmino and Lallana we have some great options up there.
Like really really great ones.
A striker and a DM and I'd be quite happy.
Someone had to come up with the balancing the books argument. Its a poor one and obviously wrong though.
1) we offered Coutinho improved terms to stay beyond January. Even though he only recently signed a new contract.
2) We'll spend the money coming in on replacements.
Clearly the signs of balancing the books. FSG agenda, Its a shite argument as usual.
1) we offered Coutinho improved terms to stay beyond January. Even though he only recently signed a new contract.
2) We'll spend the money coming in on replacements.
Clearly the signs of balancing the books. FSG agenda, Its a shite argument as usual.
It may well be lots but is it enough to buy a replacement who had the same impact.
And is a replacement we should be using the money for
We've spent half of the money already.
And while I would love us to sign a keeper, DM and Striker, we now also have to sign a Coutinho replacement, because we don't have a player who can replace him at the moment. Although I expect someone will say something hilarious like Lallana, Chamberlain or Woodburn
I don't think he's irreplaceable. He's a magnificent footballer but this is one where the TEAM might be better off.
It's clear we weren't getting a CB and a keeper and a DM AND keeping him.
So I'd rather sell and buy all those things we really really need.
Ideal world we get them and keep him but I can't see our non oil rich owners doing that.
We can strengthen here for sure. Question is will we.
Or will we fuck it up as usual.
Do people actually think the club could have forced this cry baby to stay until the summer? Because it DID try. So do some on here think something else could have been done? He was playing for a January move, his attitude stinks more generally than that, and him and his entourage clearly didn't just shut everything down for the season when we blocked the move in the summer. Some on here seem to be convinced the club only had to say 'no' and the player would have played on with a great positive spirit. It's childishly naive.
Yeah. We dug our heels in about Coutinho in summer, he wasn't for sale at any price, and we wouldn't negotiate.
Then, 5 months later, with no replacement lined up, and in a transfer window that traditionally isn't ideal for long-term planning, we miraculously agree to selling hi after all, just days after we spend 75m on a Van Dijk.
What a fucking coincidence! You gullible cretin
I'm not trying to down play it. Sucks to lose him but 142m is fucking crazy. What did we get Salah for? Let's just do that three more times with the money.
Can we stop quoting the fee as £142 Million as we are never getting any of that add on Money are we. It's £106 million and Barca have bummed us again. Catalan twats
Whilst I do share your cynicism over this, I imagine the reason he stayed in the summer and the reason he left now is down solely to the fee. They're offering a good £30million more than the summer, which took it to a price we deemed acceptable.
Not really. They offered 80 million with ridiculous add-ons including winning the Eurovision song contest making up the rest of a 100m fee. We've made much more money and given ourselves more time to sound out replacements.
Actually the balancing books thing may not be all that as we have saved up a lot plus the CL money this time round. But yeah if those three are mentioned as potential replacements then ban from site is required.
I agree. He wants to go he can go. We got good money for him. The next bits the important bit.
Right, so that was the plan? Make him stay in summer and hope he just forgot all about Barcelona? What a great strategy, doesn't make us look fucking stupid at all.
And I just LOVE the way you describe his stinking attitude, while ignoring the fact that he's our top scorer behind Salah and Firmino, and has been fucking magnificent since he returned to the side. Oh wait, let me guess, all those goals and assists were just Coutinho and his entourage making sure that Barcelona remained interested and didn't just forget all about him.
I think the simplest explanation is probably the correct one - Barca did not offer enough in the summer and when they finally did come close to the amout FSG had in mind, it was literally in the last few days of the window, when we had no chance to secure a replacement. Didn't all of you say at the time that no matter what we absolutely shouldn't let Coutinho go so late in the window? Well, you were right and that's why we refused to sell. This time Barcelona learned their lesson, didn't waste time low-balling and as soon as the window opened submitted a bid that was significantly more than their final bid in the summer. There is no mystery to why we didn't accept then and accepted now; unless you just want to whine about it.
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And banked further champions league funds
The consensus in the press is that it's £105million upfront, and then installments and realistic add ons make up the rest.
Hahahaha
I'm not that arsed. Its not like the Torres or even the Suarez situation. Gerrard almost leaving us stung more than this. For me he'd dropped down to our third best player. And to get £142m (although Barca will claim it was no where near that) is more than enough to get over it.
I just hope we announce a replacement in the next 24/48hrs too, otherwise clubs will bum us knowing we have the cash.
However, he's left now.. Giving us a whole window to replace him should we wish. Should ensure no Carroll type buys.
I just hope we announce a replacement in the next 24/48hrs too, otherwise clubs will bum us knowing we have the cash.
However, he's left now.. Giving us a whole window to replace him should we wish. Should ensure no Carroll type buys.
We had better already have replacements done. No question this weakens us, in terms of our best team, at least till keita is in, but we get an alternative for games like the last couple, and we could mitigate the damage across a season.
He's making a valid point. Rein it in would you and let decent discussion proceed without ruining the place.
I've never seen add ons for any player that are realistic. It"s usually a tactic used by the selling club to justify the sale to their supporters. They say look how much we'll get when reality is quite different.
Wait, now I'm even more confused!
This was all part of FSG's strategy?! Simply wait until Barcelona were so desperate, they paid the price they had in mind for him after all?
So it's nothing to do with Coutinho, his value to the team, building Klopp a team capable of winning trophies, or any of that other fucking horse-shit spouted by them and people like you; it's just about maximising his transfer fee, and keeping him was never really a goal at all.
Certainly, you often do see teams and owners who genuinely want to win titles, sell their best player half way through a season.
Very common indeed
He's not making a valid point. That was my point.
I don't get why other clubs dictate terms to us, and we adhere - like Keita in the Summer. Yet we can't keep the kid until June on an agreed sale?
Of course it weakens us. We could have kept him through June as a compromise. It's self sabotage -even with a decent replacement.
Of course it weakens us. We could have kept him through June as a compromise. It's self sabotage -even with a decent replacement.
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