Slightly off topic but The Verdict is one of my favorite movies of all time.
Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?
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Going from the movies it could be 40% of the pay out plus costs.
Singapore quarantined every suspected case, tested & contact traced, then rinse & repeat.
We could have done that, but it would have cost a helluva lot, & been a huge task to contact trace, so the government gambled instead. They lost, obviously.
They didn't lose
Popularity is soaring. No one in the media wants to challenge them.
It's fucking done mate. The country is fucking done.
Priti Patel was in charge of Manchester City’s attendance figures.
I dunno, all my info is anecdotal, I'm just making the stuff and passing it on, and I know it's getting used instantly and we can't make enough of it quickly enough
The dormitories are just (a big) part of the problem.
The other problem is that people in general are idiots who think this lockdown is a game, and you can score bonus points by breaking rules.
Singapore has a 6m population on an island the size of Anglesey. Even their own Prime Minister said it wasn't feasible on a larger scale, past a certain stage.
In other more amusing news, I asked my sister what the Orange Order would be doing for the 12th July. Her reply was..
“Oh it’s been cancelled... but they’re all getting treadmills sent to their homes so as they can march from home”.
For plod & Ulster I suppose...
“Oh it’s been cancelled... but they’re all getting treadmills sent to their homes so as they can march from home”.
For plod & Ulster I suppose...
I'd gladly throw in a few quid to help you cover costs, Woland.
Great shout. I'd do the same. Is there somewhere people could send a few quid to help?
@Woland Paypal ?
This shows some extremely serious missteps, misjudgements & blatant lies.
I wasn't even aware that we had so many contact tracers, nevermind the fact that they decided to only use 19 of them before scrapping the idea.
https://bylinetimes.com/2020/04/11/...ts-woeful-response-to-the-coronavirus-crisis/
I wasn't even aware that we had so many contact tracers, nevermind the fact that they decided to only use 19 of them before scrapping the idea.
https://bylinetimes.com/2020/04/11/...ts-woeful-response-to-the-coronavirus-crisis/
Obama created a “playbook” to deal with a pandemic and fostered international relations to develop a unified response.
Big D as useless as always - folded departments dealing with things like pandemics into other departments, reduced funding, etc.
As usual Trump runs around blaming everyone else for the shitshow he’s helped create.
Or Scotland, which has a much lower population density and a higher death per million.
Scotland has a lower life expectancy regardless of the coronavirus, for lots of obvious reasons.
Scotland has about 5 million people, but most of them live in either Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen, or Dundee. The highlands and islands have hardly anyone living in them. Ireland has a similar population (probably closer to 6 million) but the population is spread much more evenly.
Athens population density is through the fucking roof, but they locked down sharpish here and the death rate is still quite low. Thankfully.
There's that weird stat - can't be arsed to look it up - which shows that parts of Glasgow have a lower life expectancy than Angola (or wherever, insert your own "probably low life expectancy place" here), which is pretty shocking.
And yeah, it's diet/ booze/ smoking/ drugs related
Dublin has about the same population as all those cities combined (although city populations are always arbitrary when the boundaries are hard to define).
The point was that the population density argument used in that Twitter thread wasn't really a valid one.
Yeah, I wasn't arguing, I was just trying to show that Scotland's population density isn't exactly a good indicator as it has a few reasonably large cities but fuck all else in regards to towns and villages.
The greater Athens area has about 4 million people, I don't know what the pop density is but I reckon it's probably higher than London (I've seen figures of 17,000 per sq km for Athens and 5,666 per sq km for London, but like you say you can see ten different results from ten different sources for that). Most people here live in apartments, the centre of Athens is fucking crowded. Still has a lower death rate than the UK. So far.
Interesting BBC article on classification of CV-19 deaths.
Still can't figure out Germany's (deaths per million) 'discrepancy' though. The number of tests has no relationship to deaths per million so long as classification is consistent. Other than the obvious as stated below : The UK reports ANY person that died with CV-19 infection as a CV-19 fatality regardless of whether it was the primary cause of death. In Germany, Italy etc. it has to be the primary cause of death to get that classification. Is the that the whole sum of it ? I can't see it.
Note : The UK includes community deaths - people who died at home or in residential care who doctors recorded on the death certificate as probably having Covid-19.
However let's use another example here for comparative purposes, to avoid a political debate, Switzerland, a country that has as good or better medical facilities than Germany, has carried out far more tests per million (for those that may believe that statistic may have analytic value) and yet has a death per million rate nearly 4 times higher than that of Germany.
Even within a country, official statistics can vary according to what you count. In the UK, for example, the Department of Health and Social Care releases daily updates on how many people who tested positive for Covid-19 died that day. This includes any patient who tested positive for Covid-19 but who might have died from another condition (for example, terminal cancer). But the UK’s Office for National Statistics counts all deaths as Covid-19 where Covid-19 was mentioned on the death certificate, regardless of whether they were tested or if it was merely a suspected case of Covid-19. Adding to the complexity of trying to understand the death rates is that the two are out of sync, since the ONS way of counting can only happen after a death certificate has been issued, so takes longer.
“The issue is not really about right or wrong, but about each source of data having its own strengths and weaknesses,” Sarah Caul, head of mortality analysis at ONS, writes in a blog post on the different ways of counting deaths.
This is not necessarily a source of discrepancy between most countries, though, as many are counting deaths in the same way. Italy counts any death of a patient who has Covid-19 as a death caused by Covid-19; so does Germany and Hong Kong.
In the US, doctors have more discretion: they are asked to record whether the patient died “as a result of this illness” when reporting Covid-19 deaths to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. It could be easy to see how a physician might believe that a Covid-19 patient who died of, say, a heart attack or brain aneurysm didn’t die as a result of Covid-19, and so wouldn’t report accordingly.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200401-coronavirus-why-death-and-mortality-rates-differ
Still can't figure out Germany's (deaths per million) 'discrepancy' though. The number of tests has no relationship to deaths per million so long as classification is consistent. Other than the obvious as stated below : The UK reports ANY person that died with CV-19 infection as a CV-19 fatality regardless of whether it was the primary cause of death. In Germany, Italy etc. it has to be the primary cause of death to get that classification. Is the that the whole sum of it ? I can't see it.
Note : The UK includes community deaths - people who died at home or in residential care who doctors recorded on the death certificate as probably having Covid-19.
However let's use another example here for comparative purposes, to avoid a political debate, Switzerland, a country that has as good or better medical facilities than Germany, has carried out far more tests per million (for those that may believe that statistic may have analytic value) and yet has a death per million rate nearly 4 times higher than that of Germany.
Even within a country, official statistics can vary according to what you count. In the UK, for example, the Department of Health and Social Care releases daily updates on how many people who tested positive for Covid-19 died that day. This includes any patient who tested positive for Covid-19 but who might have died from another condition (for example, terminal cancer). But the UK’s Office for National Statistics counts all deaths as Covid-19 where Covid-19 was mentioned on the death certificate, regardless of whether they were tested or if it was merely a suspected case of Covid-19. Adding to the complexity of trying to understand the death rates is that the two are out of sync, since the ONS way of counting can only happen after a death certificate has been issued, so takes longer.
“The issue is not really about right or wrong, but about each source of data having its own strengths and weaknesses,” Sarah Caul, head of mortality analysis at ONS, writes in a blog post on the different ways of counting deaths.
This is not necessarily a source of discrepancy between most countries, though, as many are counting deaths in the same way. Italy counts any death of a patient who has Covid-19 as a death caused by Covid-19; so does Germany and Hong Kong.
In the US, doctors have more discretion: they are asked to record whether the patient died “as a result of this illness” when reporting Covid-19 deaths to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. It could be easy to see how a physician might believe that a Covid-19 patient who died of, say, a heart attack or brain aneurysm didn’t die as a result of Covid-19, and so wouldn’t report accordingly.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200401-coronavirus-why-death-and-mortality-rates-differ
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Reporting ? How's the weather there? Most Southern European and North African countries, with higher temperatures, have low rates and deaths (again this could be down to reporting or how deaths are assigned, deliberately or otherwise).
Well, spring had truly sprung a few weeks ago and it had been decent enough. Last week it was really unseasonably cold and wet but it's starting to heat up. We had a really nice weekend (weather wise...) but it still gets cool at nights. Hopefully the weather improves and this fucking thing dies or whatever happens with it until the winter.