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Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?

I was suggesting that perhaps using steroids then taking the vaccine might not be a good idea.
 
He may well have died from the vaccine, it wouldn't really change anything. You're more likely to get myocarditis from Covid than the vaccine, so it's possible he contracted Covid and died that way too. I've no idea how he died, either way, looking at one case is a pointless exercise when there's billions of vaccines being given out.

You've no idea but you're going to throw out loads of unsubstantiated theories to deflect from the vaccine possibility ?
 
I was suggesting that perhaps using steroids then taking the vaccine might not be a good idea.

But the vaccine is safe. And I can't find anything that suggests you shouldn't take it if you're on steroids.

Trust the science Athens. They wouldn't have allowed him to take it if steroids was a contraindication
 
I was suggesting that perhaps using steroids then taking the vaccine might not be a good idea.

It is a very small step from there to then saying "perhaps being young and taking the vaccine might not be a good idea either", and then moderna's stock which has already taken one hell of a beating this last week will finally RIP YNWA. Which is why I foresee they will never countenance any step of the sort no matter how obvious and probable it is.
 
But the vaccine is safe. And I can't find anything that suggests you shouldn't take it if you're on steroids.

Trust the science Athens. They wouldn't have allowed him to take it if steroids was a contraindication
If he's taking PEDs on the side he's probably not going to tell anyone before he got the vaccine. Although he should have.
 
I'd take the AZ vaccine and back myself to sue them over any complications. I'd fake an embolism and leave as quickly as possible if they say "good news dantes, we have the Moderna vaccine for you!". Better off waiting for covaxin or even the chinese one to come onto the market.

dantes - in another making accurate predictions six months before they come true shocker
 
Also, I don't know what the recommended dosages for PEDs are and if he was sticking to them.
 
I'd take the AZ vaccine and back myself to sue them over any complications. I'd fake an embolism and leave as quickly as possible if they say "good news dantes, we have the Moderna vaccine for you!". Better off waiting for covaxin or even the chinese one to come onto the market.
How's the court case going?
 
The White House on Monday said businesses should move forward with President Joe Biden’s vaccine and testing requirements for private businesses, despite a federal appeals court ordering a temporary halt to the rules.

“People should not wait,” White House Deputy Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre told reporters during a briefing. “They should continue to move forward and make sure they’re getting their workplace vaccinated.”

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit, considered one of the most conservative appellate courts in the country, halted the requirements Saturday pending review, writing that “the petitions give cause to believe there are grave statutory and constitutional issues with the Mandate.”

The Republican attorneys general in Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina and Utah, as well as several companies, requested the pause. They argued that the requirements exceed the authority of the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, which will enforce the mandates, and amount to an unconstitutional delegation of power to the executive branch by Congress.
 
How's the court case going?

There were no complications. Probably because I didn't follow their stupid advice of sitting motionless in a chair after being jabbed for them to "observe" the complications caused by sitting motionless in a chair.
 
If he's taking PEDs on the side he's probably not going to tell anyone before he got the vaccine. Although he should have.

But there isn't any guidance anywhere that says if you're taking PEDs don't get the vaccine.
 
There were no complications. Probably because I didn't follow their stupid advice of sitting motionless in a chair after being jabbed for them to "observe" the complications caused by sitting motionless in a chair.
I meant the other one that you were involved in, the one with the uni.
 
Is there guidance with regards to illegal drugs?

This is a genuine question.

Steroids aren't illegal, neither is HGH or testosterone.

They're controlled substances that can be obtained on prescription. So if they were contraindicated you would expect to see it in the literature. It's not.

Now that might just be because fuck all testing was done before the vaccines were released.
 
But no vaccine is 100% safe or 100% effective, so really there's no point testing it, since it will still fit the people's definition of a vaccine. If the chemicals in the vial identify as a vaccine, we should all respect that chemical's personal truth.
 
Steroids aren't illegal, neither is HGH or testosterone.

They're controlled substances that can be obtained on prescription. So if they were contraindicated you would expect to see it in the literature. It's not.

Now that might just be because fuck all testing was done before the vaccines were released.
I didn't say they were illegal.

Anyway, the last point is probably true.

Good job testosterone isn't illegal, or else I would be locked up.
 
Incidentally, grapefruit juice fucks around with all sorts of medications. So, if any of you lot has a wife, girlfriend, bit on the side, who is on the pill make sure they don't drink the devils grapefruit juice.
 
You shouldn't really be on any medication unless your life is at risk, just man up. If you happened to browse through nhs patient records and see the stuff people are on, it's insane, they're like shopping lists.
 
I'm just filled with natural testosterone because I'm such a manly man.
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@dantes what about this new drug Molnupiravir that increases the mutation rate, as opposed to protease inhibitors? I think it sounds like a bad idea...
 
@dantes what about this new drug Molnupiravir that increases the mutation rate, as opposed to protease inhibitors? I think it sounds like a bad idea...

Why is it a bad idea? The accelerated mutations will continue unrelentingly until the virus is in a form that it can no longer replicate, and then it will die, which is the natural conclusion of that process. The natural conclusion of the naturally occurring mutations caused by transmission and ineffective vaccination has a different end point, which is our extinction.
 
Why is it a bad idea? The accelerated mutations will continue unrelentingly until the virus is in a form that it can no longer replicate, and then it will die, which is the natural conclusion of that process. The natural conclusion of the naturally occurring mutations caused by transmission and ineffective vaccination has a different end point, which is our extinction.
What if the increase in mutational rate brings about a deadlier virus?
 
So during mutation cycle 13,034, the virus might attain the most deadly form to humans, and instantly kill the cells it invades. But the next mutation cycle 13,035 will alter it again regardless of it's fleeting victory, and it will keep going through every possible mutation until it reaches the end point, which is either death or resistance to the drug. I think death is more certain.
 
So during mutation cycle 13,034, the virus might attain the most deadly form to humans, and instantly kill the cells it invades. But the next mutation cycle 13,035 will alter it again regardless of it's fleeting victory, and it will keep going through every possible mutation until it reaches the end point, which is either death or resistance to the drug. I think death is more certain.
What if the person taking the medicine coughs just after mutation cycle 13,034 and spreads the virus to someone not on the medicine?
 
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