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Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?

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dantes said:
@Hansern Colin Powell died from covid, which is a different virus than the influenza. He had been fully vaccinated and died regardless. His underlying health issues would have marked him for death had he been unvaccinated. As he was fully vaccinated, his death from covid ought not to have occured.

I see your reaction is to froth at the mouth about the mere suggestion the vaccine is shit. Your reaction would be that of a complete idiot who is preoccupied by their fucking feels. In the real world which escapes your comprehension, the vaccine is indeed shit. Don't go frothing at the mouth though, stay with me. The reason it is shit is because of what I told you a month or so ago. Namely, if you are an old vaccinated person, the last thing on earth you want is to encounter a strain of covid that has worked it's way through a woke population who have jabbed themselves for no medical reason but a virtue signal. That old person is now rolling the dice over whether their vaccine induced antibodies will do the job. That old person is like Colin Powell and thousands of others.

They will die because idiots like you and fauci and whitty fell on their heads as babies.
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So... just so as I’m clear... you and Ross were virtue signalling when you got jabbed?

Does that also mean you were both being “woke”?
 
By the way, as everyone who isn't a total fucking imbecile knows, vaccines are not 100% safe and effective. They never are. For anything ever. In fact, that statement can be extended to every single medicine that you have ever taken, or will be likely to take. I hope that you apply your logic for this vaccine when you get cancer and want to take every untested, unsafe, and ineffective medicine to save your fat ass.

So let me break down the simpleton version for Rosco and Dantes dumb and dumber on this forum:

  • Vaccines work for the vast majority of people by providing complete immunity.
  • A significant percentage of people who have the vaccine will not be immune to the virus, but if exposed will be asymptomatic, or have greatly reduced symptoms than they would otherwise have had.
  • A small percentage will receive no protection whatsoever from the vaccine.
  • A minute percentage of people may experience undesirable or even serious adverse events.
Overall, this means that while not completely eliminating a disease or providing 100% protection, vaccines effectively slow down the spread of disease so that hospitals can keep pace with lower demand, and in addition they reduce the frequency and speed at which viral variants - which can totally evade the vaccine - emerge.

Yes there is risk from taking a vaccine - but you take greater risks every single day (by many orders of magnitude), by just getting in a car for example. On the other hand, by not taking the vaccine, you have a risk of dying from complications of the virus, plus you are facilitating the spread of the virus to others (who may be more prone to it's effects than you) and finally you are speeding up the evolution of variants.

You're right that we cannot and should not force people to take the vaccine. Furthermore it should mean that we should not require the measles, mumps, rubella, smallpox, polio, and other such vaccines. In fact, I think we should disband all societal rules that govern our safety (but that cannot ever protect everyone) - so that everyone can do whatever the fuck they want. It'll be great! We will all be able to act like selfish fucking cunts! Wait! That's you!
 
Dirty Sanchez said:
By the way, as everyone who isn't a total fucking imbecile knows, vaccines are not 100% safe and effective. They never are. For anything ever. In fact, that statement can be extended to every single medicine that you have ever taken, or will be likely to take. I hope that you apply your logic for this vaccine when you get cancer and want to take every untested, unsafe, and ineffective medicine to save your fat ass.

So let me break down the simpleton version for Rosco and Dantes dumb and dumber on this forum:

  • Vaccines work for the vast majority of people by providing complete immunity.
  • A significant percentage of people who have the vaccine will not be immune to the virus, but if exposed will be asymptomatic, or have greatly reduced symptoms than they would otherwise have had.
  • A small percentage will receive no protection whatsoever from the vaccine.
  • A minute percentage of people may experience undesirable or even serious adverse events.
Overall, this means that while not completely eliminating a disease or providing 100% protection, vaccines effectively slow down the spread of disease so that hospitals can keep pace with lower demand, and in addition they reduce the frequency and speed at which viral variants - which can totally evade the vaccine - emerge.

Yes there is risk from taking a vaccine - but you take greater risks every single day (by many orders of magnitude), by just getting in a car for example. On the other hand, by not taking the vaccine, you have a risk of dying from complications of the virus, plus you are facilitating the spread of the virus to others (who may be more prone to it's effects than you) and finally you are speeding up the evolution of variants.

You're right that we cannot and should not force people to take the vaccine. Furthermore it should mean that we should not require the measles, mumps, rubella, smallpox, polio, and other such vaccines. In fact, I think we should disband all societal rules that govern our safety (but that cannot ever protect everyone) - so that everyone can do whatever the fuck they want. It'll be great! We will all be able to act like selfish fucking cunts! Wait! That's you!
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What does complete immunity mean ?

That it would prevent infection and transmission ?

That's what we were promised but none of the vaccines provide that. Hence countries with very high vaccination rates have huge numbers of covid cases.

They're also the most lethal vaccines in human history.
 
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Dirty Sanchez said:
By the way, as everyone who isn't a total fucking imbecile knows, vaccines are not 100% safe and effective. They never are. For anything ever. In fact, that statement can be extended to every single medicine that you have ever taken, or will be likely to take. I hope that you apply your logic for this vaccine when you get cancer and want to take every untested, unsafe, and ineffective medicine to save your fat ass.

So let me break down the simpleton version for Rosco and Dantes dumb and dumber on this forum:

  • Vaccines work for the vast majority of people by providing complete immunity.
  • A significant percentage of people who have the vaccine will not be immune to the virus, but if exposed will be asymptomatic, or have greatly reduced symptoms than they would otherwise have had.
  • A small percentage will receive no protection whatsoever from the vaccine.
  • A minute percentage of people may experience undesirable or even serious adverse events.
Overall, this means that while not completely eliminating a disease or providing 100% protection, vaccines effectively slow down the spread of disease so that hospitals can keep pace with lower demand, and in addition they reduce the frequency and speed at which viral variants - which can totally evade the vaccine - emerge.

Yes there is risk from taking a vaccine - but you take greater risks every single day (by many orders of magnitude), by just getting in a car for example. On the other hand, by not taking the vaccine, you have a risk of dying from complications of the virus, plus you are facilitating the spread of the virus to others (who may be more prone to it's effects than you) and finally you are speeding up the evolution of variants.

You're right that we cannot and should not force people to take the vaccine. Furthermore it should mean that we should not require the measles, mumps, rubella, smallpox, polio, and other such vaccines. In fact, I think we should disband all societal rules that govern our safety (but that cannot ever protect everyone) - so that everyone can do whatever the fuck they want. It'll be great! We will all be able to act like selfish fucking cunts! Wait! That's you!
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I hope you have the awareness to know everything you just said would be embarrassing if a six year old child failed to understand it. What makes you think you need to lecture anyone about it, much less me? Jesus. I half suspect you have it in your brain for that reason, so that you can anchor yourself onto blindingly easy things, to boost your confidence intellectually on things that you're out of your depth with because they involve complex processes and mathematics you never learned. Well, the problem arises with the bit in red, which is thrown in amongst the rest, nonchalantly, and you casually treat it with the same ease and level of confidence as the other easy stuff. I'm afraid the bit in red is way beyond you though. Firstly you have no idea if that's true, and secondly you have no idea how to set about finding out whether or not it's true. Instead you just throw it in there with the easy stuff you are able to know, and then pretend it's all the same. Comical.
 
Not really going to get involved in the discussion again, but think stuff like this needs to be seen and shared. It's terrifying the direction we're heading in...

 
Hopefully they will slip up and take down a black person mistake. In fact, hahah that rebel tv dude should hire a load of black guys to loiter around in various parks, and wait for the cops to eventually bite and do their thing. Once that is on camera, by god wonderful wonderful things will happen in australia, and the donations coming into his shitty youtube scam will also go up ten fold at least.
 
Woland said:
You can. Every time the police get more powers they start being people up.
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Not literally every police officer is a bastard though.

And who's giving them the powers? They know what's going to happen. They want it to happen.
 
Nah. Just make it so that psychopaths and power-hungry gimps aren't drawn to the post so much. And maybe a better screening post. But our society in general rewards callous, selfish pricks, so... yeah, asteroid, please.
 
Hansern said:
Colin Powell was 84 years old, and had other underlying health issues.

Powell had multiple myeloma, a cancer of plasma cells that suppresses the body's immune response, as well as Parkinson's, Peggy Cifrino, Powell's longtime chief of staff, confirmed to CNN. Even if fully vaccinated against Covid-19, those who are immunocompromised are at greater risk from the virus.

You and Ross have no clue about what you are talking about as usual.
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Woland said:
Yeah there might be an ok one somewhere
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My mate is one down in London.

He's a bell end, like, but not in the typical bully busy sense.

I got pulled over once when I was late for work going through a red light and speeding. That officer was proper sound.
 
Latest UK PHE Vaccine Surveillance Report figures on Covid -19 cases show that doubly vaccinated 40-79 year olds have lost 44% of their immune system capability. Their immune systems are deteriorating at around 5% per week (between 3.8% and 9.1%).

If this continues then 30-59 year olds will have zero Covid/viral defence (and perhaps a form of acquired immunodeficiency syndrome) by Christmas and all double vaccinated people over 30 will have completely lost the part of their immune system that tackles Covid-19 by January next year

The 5 Public Health England (PHE) tables below from their excellent Vaccine Surveillance Report of all fully genome sequenced delta cases, separated by 5 weeks, clearly show the progressive damage that the vaccines are doing to the immune system’s response. PHE have done so much great work and the picture is very clear.

Here is the weekly decline in doubly vaccinated immune system performance compared to unvaxxed people. Vaccine efficacy is measured using Pfizer’s vaccine effectiveness formula…
(Unvaxxed case rate – Vaxxed case rate)/the Larger of Unvaxxed or Vaxxed case rate – We are using the ratio of vaxxed to unvaxxed case numbers to determine vaccine efficiency just as Pfizer itself does.

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Rosco said:
Latest UK PHE Vaccine Surveillance Report figures on Covid -19 cases show that doubly vaccinated 40-79 year olds have lost 44% of their immune system capability. Their immune systems are deteriorating at around 5% per week (between 3.8% and 9.1%).

If this continues then 30-59 year olds will have zero Covid/viral defence (and perhaps a form of acquired immunodeficiency syndrome) by Christmas and all double vaccinated people over 30 will have completely lost the part of their immune system that tackles Covid-19 by January next year

The 5 Public Health England (PHE) tables below from their excellent Vaccine Surveillance Report of all fully genome sequenced delta cases, separated by 5 weeks, clearly show the progressive damage that the vaccines are doing to the immune system’s response. PHE have done so much great work and the picture is very clear.

Here is the weekly decline in doubly vaccinated immune system performance compared to unvaxxed people. Vaccine efficacy is measured using Pfizer’s vaccine effectiveness formula…
(Unvaxxed case rate – Vaxxed case rate)/the Larger of Unvaxxed or Vaxxed case rate – We are using the ratio of vaxxed to unvaxxed case numbers to determine vaccine efficiency just as Pfizer itself does.

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What's this from?
 
its deliberate, willful disinformation Halmeister. You just have to look at who is posting it to know that he is making false statements and chuckling into his cum sock. Every time he's challenged he can't back anything up. Not once.
 
Dirty Sanchez said:
its deliberate, willful disinformation Halmeister. You just have to look at who is posting it to know that he is making false statements and chuckling into his cum sock. Every time he's challenged he can't back anything up. Not once.
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It's taking numbers that are publicly available. Putting them into a formula that a child can calculate. Then tabulating the percentages. The source does not matter. You're literally frothing at the mouth and bitching about disinformation and conspiracies, when presented with a percentage calculated from three numbers. It's comical. Why are you even concerned about the source when it's a number, if you're incapable of working out percentages just admit it.
 
One minute you said you'd worked the percentages out, you were clearly bullshitting as you linked to the wrong source. Whatevers.
 
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