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Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?

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Frogfish said:
When will the penny drop for you? You are an item of amusement and ridicule so why on earth would anyone bother to read links/watch anything you post? That's the only benefit to be derived from this thread, when I can actually be arsed perusing it.
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Do not bother then, I'm only suggesting you watch it in order to learn where you went wrong. If you'd rather pretend you were never wrong and laughably tell yourself that it was just a wild guess that's entirely up to you. It just makes you look like a moron, who has not only got the math very wrong but is compounding that by now getting the english wrong in order to pretend a "wild guess" is the same thing as a "categorical assurance that it is absolutely wrong and ridiculously dumb as to defy belief"
 
dantes said:
Do not bother then, I'm only suggesting you watch it in order to learn where you went wrong. If you'd rather pretend you were never wrong and laughably tell yourself that it was just a wild guess that's entirely up to you. It just makes you look like a moron, who has not only got the math very wrong but is compounding that by now getting the english wrong in order to pretend a "wild guess" is the same thing as a "categorical assurance that it is absolutely wrong and ridiculously dumb as to defy belief"
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Sigh. More verbal diarrhea, your speciality.
 
Well let me put it more succinctly. You were categorically wrong about the blood clots. I think the reason for that is you are either just dumb and incapable of understanding the numbers, or else you do understand but are embarrassed about it so are now just wasting my time going on about amusement and diarrhea. I don't really care which, and that's it.
 
dantes said:
Well let me put it more succinctly. You were categorically wrong about the blood clots. I think the reason for that is you are either just dumb and incapable of understanding the numbers, or else you do understand but are embarrassed about it so are now just wasting my time going on about amusement and diarrhea. I don't really care which, and that's it.
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And you clearly don't know the definition of 'categorically', or are deliberately misusing it, or more likely still just ignoring the other content of my post - as per your usual tactics to pervert statements to fit your rhetoric/imagination (let's take these 5 words of this 30 word sentence and debate them in isolation). Rosco taught you well.
 
Ireland’s medicines watchdog has received reports of 80 people suffering a form of heart inflammation after getting a Covid-19 vaccine.

The latest report from the Health Products Regulatory Authority (HPRA) said 25 cases of myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart muscle, have been notified to date.

And 33 cases of pericarditis, inflammation of the heart lining, were reported with 22 incidences of both conditions.

Most were reported in people who got the Pfizer vaccine, and in men, with 10 notified after getting the Moderna jab. The median age of these was 35 years but some were 81 years old and five involved young people aged 12 to 17.
 
80 cases from 3.7m people vaccinated, is about 0.002%, which is about 100 times smaller than the often quoted Covid mortality rate that was used as an argument for Covid not being deadly. And that's case rate, not mentioning how many of them turned into serious illness or deaths.
 
Frogfish said:
And you clearly don't know the definition of 'categorically', or are deliberately misusing it, or more likely still just ignoring the other content of my post - as per your usual tactics to pervert statements to fit your rhetoric/imagination (let's take these 5 words of this 30 word sentence and debate them in isolation). Rosco taught you well.
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I used it in the same sense that I would categorically assure you that 4 x 3 = 12. Your posts are not being ignored, there's just no way to respond to them like we are arguing over the 12. The answer was just 12, that's it, then it turned out to be 12 despite your denial of it, and it will continue to always be 12. There's nothing I can do except to suggest you learn how numbers are multiplied.
 
Gerry_A_Trick said:
80 cases from 3.7m people vaccinated, is about 0.002%, which is about 100 times smaller than the often quoted Covid mortality rate that was used as an argument for Covid not being deadly. And that's case rate, not mentioning how many of them turned into serious illness or deaths.
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Here in Norway its 95 cases and 3,7 million are fully vaccinated (52 cases from Pfizer and 40 from Moderna).
 
Yep. I mean, it's true (probably), that the vaccine increases your chances of getting it, from tiny to slightly more than tiny. But, there isn't any vaccine that is 100% effective and also has zero side effects. So, it's a matter of making a decision on if the effectiveness and side effects lead to a better outcome than not taking it. And it's abundantly clear that it is.
 
Phew!!! I’m blessed and counting my lucky stars that I’m in the 99.998% of people who got vaccinated and didn’t develop myocarditis or pericarditis.

Bullet dodged.

Hopefully I can avoid equally dangerous things like a coconut falling on my head or being eaten by a crocodile.
 


That'd be predominantly dark skinned people who have a higher risk of death and a higher rate of vaccine hesitancy. This really is quite stunning work by the predominantly white skinned electorate, perhaps only matched by the white skinned scientists who lied about the blood clots and got pretty much every other thing they virtue signalled about completely wrong.
 
Gerry_A_Trick said:
You're blaming Biden for vaccine hesitancy?
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I blame all the factors that causes vaccine hesitancy, for causing vaccine hesitancy. Biden is amongst them. Biden is also directly responsible for increasing the impact of several of the other factors. As usual I'm right, and the electorate were stunningly wrong, brave, stunning and brave, but wrong.
 
dantes said:
I blame all the factors that causes vaccine hesitancy, for causing vaccine hesitancy. Biden is amongst them. Biden is also directly responsible for increasing the impact of several of the other factors. As usual I'm right, and the electorate were stunningly wrong, brave, stunning and brave, but wrong.
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The biggest reason for vaccine hesitancy, is actually misinterpretation of data, and people spreading those misinterpretations. I guess he could do a better job of stopping that information being spread, but I think that has to be the job of everyone in public office. Seems a stretch to put it all on him, given all this was going on before he was in office.
 
Gerry_A_Trick said:
The biggest reason for vaccine hesitancy, is actually misinterpretation of data, and people spreading those misinterpretations. I guess he could do a better job of stopping that information being spread, but I think that has to be the job of everyone in public office. Seems a stretch to put it all on him, given all this was going on before he was in office.
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That factor is not about interpretation, most of the people are not sufficiently data literate to sit down and start calculating probabilities. They had questions about the data, which is perfectly normal, and they were actually very good questions, and they were answered with a fact check and censorship, because Biden and his administration are authoritarian dictators.

Several months later the fact checks turned out to be laughably wrong, and funded by corrupt people. Stunning work.
 
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Gerry_A_Trick said:
The biggest reason for vaccine hesitancy, is actually misinterpretation of data, and people spreading those misinterpretations. I guess he could do a better job of stopping that information being spread, but I think that has to be the job of everyone in public office. Seems a stretch to put it all on him, given all this was going on before he was in office.
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The vaccines haven't undergone proper testing.
The facts are constantly changing and literally everything that has been said by the establishment about the vaccine has been incorrect.

When serious side effects started developing we were told that it was disinformation and there was no evidence to support it was caused by the vaccine. Then that line changed to well it's only x amount of people.

Medical treatment can only be given when there is full informed consent from a patient. Nobody got the opportunity to consent with the full information before them.
 
Rosco said:
The vaccines haven't undergone proper testing.
The facts are constantly changing and literally everything that has been said by the establishment about the vaccine has been incorrect.

When serious side effects started developing we were told that it was disinformation and there was no evidence to support it was caused by the vaccine. Then that line changed to well it's only x amount of people.

Medical treatment can only be given when there is full informed consent from a patient. Nobody got the opportunity to consent with the full information before them.
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It's literally the most tested vaccine in history, there aren't as many papers done on any other vaccine.

If you're looking for a vaccine, or indeed any medicine that is 100% effective and has zero side effects, you're not going to find one. The best you get is ones where side effects that are minor and only affect a small amount of people.
 
Gerry_A_Trick said:
It's literally the most tested vaccine in history, there aren't as many papers done on any other vaccine.

If you're looking for a vaccine, or indeed any medicine that is 100% effective and has zero side effects, you're not going to find one. The best you get is ones where side effects that are minor and only affect a small amount of people.
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And yet it hasn't been fully approved for use. And you keep labelling new tests that show it is ineffective and dangerous as misinformation.

And instead rely on the vaccine companies claims of efficacy and some unnamed study that you can't that prove it's safer to get it than not get it.

It's a shit vaccine
 
Rosco said:
And yet it hasn't been fully approved for use. And you keep labelling new tests that show it is ineffective and dangerous as misinformation.

And instead rely on the vaccine companies claims of efficacy and some unnamed study that you can't that prove it's safer to get it than not get it.

It's a shit vaccine
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What do you mean it's not approved for use? Over 6bn vaccines have been approved and used. And you can see in every place where there is high uptake, that it's stopping people from getting seriously ill or dying from Covid. And you can easily compare it to unvaccinated groups and see the rates are much higher. It's not even questionable.

People are constantly misreading and misusing data from reports. There's never been so many unqualified people reading scientific papers and then taking extracts for them to suit their point of view. 95% of medical professionals are all aligned on this, that should be enough for most people.
 
Woland said:
Imagine if they'd had Facebook when penicillin came out.
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It would have been good, all the dickheads wouldn't take it and would die and it would reduce the chances of an antibiotic resistant strain evolving.
 
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