Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?
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Strange, here the schools have been open since June and not much problem at all. The kids spreading the virus has been very limited. The second wave is in now, and we see several local outbreaks. Most are working from home and you cant be more then 5 socially at home for the next 3-4 weeks.
But the schools and day care will remain open, as the kids seem very little effected.
One of our biggest problems is out of country workers coming in, mostly from Poland.
And the 20-30 year olds are by far the superspreaders.
You'll get no argument from me on that one.
I can just about accept this latest lockdown if it means that the government will actually do something positive during it in order to help matters afterwards (such as fixing track and trace or overhauling the testing programme). If they spend the four weeks just looking at the figures and hoping that they go down for a while then small businesses have had to close for nothing.
Don't get me wrong, I shall be complying with it of course, and I hope that everyone else complies with it, but I hope that questions will be raised on exactly how the time is spent by the government.
That is odd - maybe the virus is working differently in different countries?
I honestly don't have a clue.
Questions have been raised again and again. They just seem to be ignoring it.
A few back benchers are kicking off, inc Steve Baker who I feel is eyeing up a place higher up in Govt over the next few years.
He would save himself the cost of rebranding his so-called party every year if he just called it the Bandwagon Party and had done with it.
We've a family member who runs a business that prints labels and packaging, there could be a few bob in it if he prints some sort of template and sticker combo for Farage. Have the templates printed off then order a batch of stickers whenever he has a new "worthwhile" cause.
Haha. Yes that's true! You can imagine them all rooting through old dusty books looking for something that was agreed in 1752 that means that some fundamental right (which they had never even considered until now, let alone used) has been compromised.
"Would the right honourable gentleman not agree with me that to impose this level of restriction on the good people of England flies entirely in the face of the George II declaration that it is the right of every man to take his calf to market on the third Thursday of November?"
What have they dug up on this occasion?
Talking of fervent belief, I see that twat Toby Young started some movement called Lockdown Sceptics, which is basically just a website aggregating stories against intervention against Covid.
He doesn't seem to realise it has zero to do with lockdown scepticism. It's just anti-lockdown fanaticism.
Anyway, Sweden still isn't showing any uptick in deaths, even though they're clearly in a second wave. They're basically at 2 or 3 a day, on average. Is there some degree of immunity there or something which is stopping people from dying? It's odd. Although it's almost certainly too late to be worth doing anything now other than just waiting for the vaccine.
He doesn't seem to realise it has zero to do with lockdown scepticism. It's just anti-lockdown fanaticism.
Anyway, Sweden still isn't showing any uptick in deaths, even though they're clearly in a second wave. They're basically at 2 or 3 a day, on average. Is there some degree of immunity there or something which is stopping people from dying? It's odd. Although it's almost certainly too late to be worth doing anything now other than just waiting for the vaccine.
Not so sure about Sweden. There was a prof.of immunology from one of the colleges of London Univ.on the radio the other day saying that deaths ARE rising there and that public irresponsibility here in the UK had actually meant we'd got closer to the Swedish model than people think, and are now paying the price for it.
Are there figures suggesting a rise? The ones on Google have been hovering around zero for months with an odd spike to 5 or so. It's an order of magnitude less than other 2nd wave countries, even accounting for lower population.
For public irresponsibility so Boris' idea of 'taking it on the chin' and then months later telling people to go back to the office even if they could work from home.
Yeah the idea of doing a lockdown without shutting schools and uni just seems ludicrous to me.
If they did nothing the blame for the pandemic would fall upon their shoulders, just like with Trump. So for political reasons they take ineffective actions, so that they can then pass the blame to some place else, at the cost of people's jobs and wealth and mental health. Trump doesn't want to shut schools down for capitalist reasons, and at least he owns that decision rather than doing a bunch of other stupid stuff wasting billions for no reason on earth other than to make it look like he is taking "some" action.
Well, after getting really fortunate with a low case load and fairly prompt govt action during the first wave, we've completely fucked it up over here.
Our right wing government decided to completely reopen the economy, pour virtually nothing into public health, fail to build test and trace capacity and we now have case counts and test positivity rates in line with many American states and higher than the US average.
So here we (very belatedly) go back into lockdown, except with no economic supports for individuals and businesses bc this govt MO is austerity and attempting to balance the budget.
Long term care homes are rife with stories of scandalous care and deaths. Nearly at the point in hospitals where doctors will need to choose who lives and who doesn't. My son's school is shut down now because of an outbreak in half of the cohorts (and teachers are getting threats from parents).
Great fucking job guys. So smug about our initial results that you completely failed to plan for the second wave everyone said was coming. Bright side is that these cunts' reelection chances are taking a beating. Shame it's taking dozens of deaths and cratering small businesses to do it.
Our right wing government decided to completely reopen the economy, pour virtually nothing into public health, fail to build test and trace capacity and we now have case counts and test positivity rates in line with many American states and higher than the US average.
So here we (very belatedly) go back into lockdown, except with no economic supports for individuals and businesses bc this govt MO is austerity and attempting to balance the budget.
Long term care homes are rife with stories of scandalous care and deaths. Nearly at the point in hospitals where doctors will need to choose who lives and who doesn't. My son's school is shut down now because of an outbreak in half of the cohorts (and teachers are getting threats from parents).
Great fucking job guys. So smug about our initial results that you completely failed to plan for the second wave everyone said was coming. Bright side is that these cunts' reelection chances are taking a beating. Shame it's taking dozens of deaths and cratering small businesses to do it.
I see. Well best of luck with him for that. No doubt in a few months when he refuses to pay his inevitable fines he will be putting videos all over YouTube showing how he 'owned' the bailiffs by declaring himself a freeman on the land and removing their rights of access.
We’re doing it here, and its working. Uni have moved to digital though. But the schools and day care centeres are open.
That 4 week lockdown isn’t going to be long enough to get the numbers down, particularly if a significant proportion of the population don’t follow the rules.
You’d also have to lockdown movement in and out of the country.
It’ll be 4 weeks before you see the numbers start to come down - let alone get control of the spread.
You’d also have to lockdown movement in and out of the country.
It’ll be 4 weeks before you see the numbers start to come down - let alone get control of the spread.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/nov/02/liverpool-uk-first-attempt-coronavirus-mass-testing
[article]Up to half a million people in Liverpool are set to be tested for Covid-19 under the UK government’s first attempt to embark on city-wide mass testing and track down every case of the virus.[/article]
How long will it take them to fuck this up?
[article]Up to half a million people in Liverpool are set to be tested for Covid-19 under the UK government’s first attempt to embark on city-wide mass testing and track down every case of the virus.[/article]
How long will it take them to fuck this up?
It's the only viable solution under current circumstances.
You get a test, the app records it, you're allowed in bars, restaurants, hospitality, the match, etc. X days later, same again.
You get a test, the app records it, you're allowed in bars, restaurants, hospitality, the match, etc. X days later, same again.
Liverpool; it's not just a clever name.
If the government needed a rapid testing system for detecting alien life, and put out the request for tenders, you better believe that every physics or vaguely physics sounding entity across the country will miraculously and instantly come up with a suitable method for only £199.95 a pop, and the gullible public will suddenly think there are millions of aliens in the galaxy. This is not so different.
Capitalism:
Private consumer A pays private business B for a test. The test turns out to be bullshit. Consumer A sues the living fuck out of business B ensuring they learn their lesson and never ever fuck up again.
Socialism:
Government C takes money from consumer A. Gives it to big business B for a test. B gives a kickback in a brown envelope to C as an insurance policy. The test turns out to be total bullshit. Government C and multinational business B shrug their shoulders as they're kicking it in the Caribbean. Private consumer A is on a ventilator or in the queue at the food bank and blames capitalism.
Private consumer A pays private business B for a test. The test turns out to be bullshit. Consumer A sues the living fuck out of business B ensuring they learn their lesson and never ever fuck up again.
Socialism:
Government C takes money from consumer A. Gives it to big business B for a test. B gives a kickback in a brown envelope to C as an insurance policy. The test turns out to be total bullshit. Government C and multinational business B shrug their shoulders as they're kicking it in the Caribbean. Private consumer A is on a ventilator or in the queue at the food bank and blames capitalism.
Residents of Braintree, Cockermouth and Twatt are going into hiding before the army show up