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Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?

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manwithnoname said:
I think it's a bit harsh talking about people being 'idiots'

Half the fucking country have coughs and colds. I've got asthma, and allergies, so I am snuffling, wheezing, sneezing and coughing for 9 months of the year (well, it seems like that sometimes)

The majority of people self-isolating now haven't got anything more than a bad cold or mild flu, and there will be more than a few who've had the virus and didn't notice.
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Sorry I wasn't really clear, without going into too much detail, sending a child in with a cough without explanation, then lying and saying that said child had been to see a GP (when we later found out they hadn't), is idiotic.

I appreciate people will carry it and not know until the spread damage is done, though.
 
Richey said:
The thing is though that I would be lying if I said that every single time I don't feel well, I stay at home. I don't, I tend to just try to carry on as normal. I suspect most people are the same. It is asking for a huge behaviour change to ask people to self isolate on the back of symptoms that they have always worked through without giving it much of a second thought.
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Yes, it is going to be the lazy, feckless scum who are going to save us; the ones who dont give a shit about their job or work responsibility , and take any excuse to stay at home because they have been 'signed off', or have a runny nose.
 
I'm getting a bit terrified and stressed by it all. Daughters got CF so it means if she gets it there's a decent chance of intensive care stay. The fuck do I do? There's zero guidance (other from the conditions charities) over what the supposed at risk people should do?

Do we isolate ourselves?
Do we stop my son going to school to protect my daughter?
Do I stop going to work because my job is effectively going from mortuary to mortuary?
What's my legal recourse because I'm going against generic government advice?

It's all well and good if you're showing symptoms, then theres a plan; but the increased stress of the unknown is just going to lead to increased susceptibility for people.
 
Apparently there will be an announcement on my work intranet this morning about the pandemic. I’m guessing we will be told all nonessential travel to be cancelled and if you can work at home do so.
 
I think non-essential travel in our place has already been knocked on the head. Sadly, my stuff is deemed as essential travel.
 
The government want 40 million to contract the Coronavirus, to implent "Herd Immunity Theory'. Most of Europe, Health care experts and WHO disagree with this approach.. The UK's current fatality rate is 1.7%. If, and it is a big if, that extrapolated across all contractions sought it would equate to 680,000 dead.

Utter lunacy.

Italy's mortality rate is 6.6%, if we reach that, it's potentially 2.64m dead.

Italy's infrastructure can't cope.. They are deciding already who lives and who dies in Italy's hospitals..

Italy is suppose to have one of the best health infrastructures in Europe, we are doomed with the state of our NHS
 
My place has announced no international travel at all now (good, as I was due to go to Kazan for an audit next month), and customer visits only if absolutely critical. They're also doing a desktop and infrastructure BCP test today to see if the infrastructure can cope with thousands of people working from home.
Thankfully I'm predominantly home based anyway, but it does look like most are reacting at least.
 
6TimesaRed said:
The government want 40 million to contract the Coronavirus, to implent "Herd Immunity'. Most of Europe and WHO disagree with this approach.. The UK's current fatality rate is 1.7%. If, and it is a big if, that extrapolated across all contractions sought it would equate to 680,000 dead.

Utter lunacy.

Italy's mortality rate is 6.6%, if we reach that, it's 2.64m dead.

Part of that is because Italy's infrastructure can't cope.. They are deciding already who lives and who dies in Italy's hospitals..

Italy is suppose to have one of the best health infrastructures in Europe, we are doomed with the state of our NHS
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I was looking at the numbers (I'm sure Dantes would be doing a far better job at this) and if it stays at the current rate of acceleration and a r0 of 2, we'd be looking at about 9.7k cases here in the UK in about 10days time, and 2.5mill in around a month. BUT, China have managed to slow their acceleration so there's no reasons why we can't.
 
6TimesaRed said:
Tongue in cheek.. Jees.. don't be so touchy..
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Oh well that's okay then. So if someone were to say that they hope a member of someone's family or close friends were killed (when there might actually be a good chance that that person may already have relatives or close friends who they are worried about), that would be okay, would it, as long as it is 'tongue in cheek'?
 
Mors said:
I was looking at the numbers (I'm sure Dantes would be doing a far better job at this) and if it stays at the current rate of acceleration and a r0 of 1, we'd be looking at about 9.7k cases here in the UK in about 10days time, and 2.5mill in around a month. BUT, China have managed to slow their acceleration so there's no reasons why we can't.
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China have implemented Social distancing, closure of public transport, mad gatherings and lockdown. We think we are clever and herd immunity is the answer

Spread of the virus needs to be slowed down so it hits it peak in the summer, so less fatalities.. You can only acheive that by implementing a social distancing program.

Beggers Belief

All about the 'economy', public health 2nd.. the government is playing a balancing game with people lives..
 
Richey said:
Oh well that's okay then. So if someone were to say that they hope a member of someone's family or close friends were killed (when there might actually be a good chance that that person may already have relatives or close friends who they are worried about), that would be okay, would it, as long as it is 'tongue in cheek'?
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Look if I offended someone they you are being too touchey.. I wasnt being serious, the Emoji kinda confirmed it was said in jest..

It well known a high percentage of old people are Tory voters, and well known in here I am not a fan of Torys.. it was only reason why I said it.. I was fishing.. [emoji102]

Far worse has been said by some in here. So come on.. get over it. It's obvious I didn't mean it .
 
momoWASboss said:
Apparently there will be an announcement on my work intranet this morning about the pandemic. I’m guessing we will be told all nonessential travel to be cancelled and if you can work at home do so.
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Give me a brief update on anything important if you would when it's done mate. Off today & forgot to take my surface pro home.
 
Woland and myself have said worse about things in the past, so quite why people are jumping on Jono is a bit weird

I know he's thick but he's not malicious
 
I do like to chat shit about pretty much every topic, but everyone is gonna know someone who dies of this so gotta be careful I guess.
 
Woland said:
I do like to chat shit about pretty much every topic, but everyone is gonna know someone who dies of this so gotta be careful I guess.
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Yeah but it's not from a place of malice

People might know people who were abused, yet i'm still gonna call whoever i want a nonce.

Intention is important
 
I was about to quote a Holle post which was either a wonderful, WONDERFUL joke based on his nationality, or unfortunately phrased

Either way, it made me lol
 
Fabio said:
Woland and myself have said worse about things in the past, so quite why people are jumping on Jono is a bit weird

I know he's thick but he's not malicious
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Fair enough. On reflection I don't think he necessarily meant any offence, at least I hope he didn't. I was offended by it, and I don't believe I was being overly 'touchy'. But yes, I see what you are saying.

My point was though that say someone here had a relative or friend who was ill already, or that they were really worried about, it wouldn't be nice to hear someone say that they would be happy if they died. This is essentially the same thing as that. It's a sensitivity thing I suppose.
 
Richey said:
Fair enough. On reflection I don't think he necessarily meant any offence, at least I hope he didn't. I was offended by it, and I don't believe I was being overly 'touchy'. But yes, I see what you are saying.

My point was though that say someone here had a relative or friend who was ill already, or that they were really worried about, it wouldn't be nice to hear someone say that they would be happy if they died. This is essentially the same thing as that. It's a sensitivity thing I suppose.
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I agree an element of sensitivity would be nice, but we're all hardened cunts on here so I would have thought a bit of that kind of joke would be par for the course

I've got 70+ year old parents with underlying health conditions, a 2 year old daughter who is actively in the highest risk category for a potential death because of it. still did a smile at his post, because I know jono is just making a joke
 
Fair enough Fabio, peace and love etc. I know he didn't mean malice by it and I probably overreacted, people just need to think a bit.
 
6TimesaRed said:
The government want 40 million to contract the Coronavirus, to implent "Herd Immunity Theory'. Most of Europe, Health care experts and WHO disagree with this approach.. The UK's current fatality rate is 1.7%. If, and it is a big if, that extrapolated across all contractions sought it would equate to 680,000 dead.

Utter lunacy.

Italy's mortality rate is 6.6%, if we reach that, it's potentially 2.64m dead.

Italy's infrastructure can't cope.. They are deciding already who lives and who dies in Italy's hospitals..

Italy is suppose to have one of the best health infrastructures in Europe, we are doomed with the state of our NHS
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Those are the official figures. Unless you are hospitalised, rich or famous.. you aren't being tested anymore. I personally know 2 people who haven't been tested even though they have returned from Austria with all the symptoms and in their 60s.

The real mortality rate is probably under 1% like they have already said. It's already out there, we cant contain it.

Stop believing all the dooms day scenarios.

Yes people will die, and that is fucking shit . So show some compassion. But don't go hyperbole. So don't go down that route either.
 
This is my fave coronovirus thing to have happened.

o2eju


Rudy Gobert, NBA player, laughing and joking about the virus by deliberately touching all the mics on the stand.

He then misses the next game with illness l, which is then diagnosed as coronovirus. Has infected his teammates too. NBA suspended.
 
FoxForceFive said:
Everyone who has called this blag or ridiculed it has now caught it. Except fucking Trump.

FFS.
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He probably has. He is refusing to be tested..

Apparently its a way of showing his followers and supporters and non supporters his strength.. You will never see him wear a mask either..

Ping pong North Korean leader is using the same tact, I suspect it where he is copying the idea from.


Both Cocks
 
FoxForceFive said:
The really fucking eye opening bit of that press conference today...

Some journo asked if Merkel was right saying that 70% of the population will get it. The chief medical officer said their figures are 80%. Then said they have the fatality rate at 1%, obv mostly elderly. The UK population is 66.44m.

That could mean more then half a million people dead from this if their figures are correct.
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It isn't because the CMO knew what he meant but didn't explain it clearly. It was based on zero action being taken to control the spread. And we are well past that point.

In fact there are already precedents in the case of China and Korea (and Italy soon too) : just look at the mortality rates based on population and not the number infected.

For China it is 1.6 billion with ca. 3,500 fatalities so a mortality rate of 0.0000021875 of total population. South Korea has a population of ca. 51.5m with 66 deaths = 0.00000128155 of total population but likely more will bring it up to China's level.

Italy with a population of 60.5 million and ca. 1,016 deaths = 0.00001653 of total population. Substantially higher than either China or South Korea, but clearly nowhere near 1% of total population no matter how it's calculated.
 
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