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Chelsea v Liverpool - Match Thread

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Like I said before the game, it looked like a 1-1 game. The red card definitely made a difference.
We we're running ourselves ragged in the first half and if Chelsea had XI players on the pitch, they might have scored.

I think it could have been, but Chelsea seemed very timid and scared to attack (other than punts relying on Werner's pace), whereas we looked comfortable and hadn't gone through the gears.
 
Lampard had always been a cunt. It's just now he's trotted out for interviews every week as a manager, so under greater scrutiny
He just seems so spoiled now. I mean yeah he grew up as footballers son and had a few things handed to him, but when something goes a against him he throws his toys out of his pram.
 
In fact, the only time they looked like they wanted to attack, was after they went 2 down, but after the pen the retreated again
 
I wonder what we can expect in games to come if even Chelsea at the Bridge sits deep and tries to play on the counter.
 
Yeah, they're are going to be dangerous when Pulisic gets back.
Oh definitely. If pulisic played yesterday i would have shit myself every time James got the ball, as he's a slightly less good Trent.

Thankfully, Werner isn't as good as him.
 
Werner do look like a player who has a somewhat of a fragile mentality. If you bully him or give him a hard tackle it might see him fade a bit out of the game.
Its early obviously and he is an excellent player but it will be interesting to see how he fares in the tough games coming up.
 
The thing I really cannot let go about Lampard is his apparent desire to force Abramovich to spend another £50M+ on Declan Rice in this transfer window. It could seem insignificant among all of their other spending, but it's just so telling. The one truly strong part of the team that he has inherited from his predecessors was the midfield; even in yesterday's game Kante, Kovacic and Jorginho were the main reason they could go toe-to-toe with LFC in the first half, before being ultimately undone by errors in other areas of the pitch. Declan Rice is a good player, but he is in no way an upgrade on any of the current Chelsea midfielders; you could make an argument that investing in a younger English player is good business in the long run, but in a season where you're trying to stitch together a brand-new attack while wholesale replacing the underperforming defense AND replacing your goalkeeper, the one island of stability should be the midfield, where they actually have a couple of world-class players in their prime and some patterns of play built up over several seasons of playing together.

To even contemplate replacing Kante with Rice at the same time as doing all of the other major surgery shows either a colossal level of stupidity (which I don't think is the case with Lampard) or more likely a deep gnawing insecurity, where he needs to bring in "his" players at any cost, because he cannot bear being compared to previous managers by the experienced and mature players who played under them and now have the misfortune of having Lampard as boss. I think he is the type of a leader who deep down is not sure he's up to the job, so he needs to bring the team/company down to his level; he cannot build on the foundation laid by others, because he perceives it as a threat to his own authority. It's not a coincidence that Chelsea went from conceding 39 goals under Sarri to 54 under Lampard, that previously promising defenders like Rudiger and Christensen were made to look like hapless clowns last season. I think even Kepa will prove to be a lot better than the absolute train-wreck of a goalkeeper he's now become – and at some point (probably too late) pundits and Chelsea fans will realize their biggest problem all along hasn't been the player personnel, it was the manager.
He's not buying Rice to play him in midfield though. The story goes he wants to convert Rice into a centre back. But shhhhh don't tell Fwank it's a bad idea, let him continue with this project. We've got under his skin and it's pissing him off
 
I wonder what we can expect in games to come if even Chelsea at the Bridge sits deep and tries to play on the counter.
I think we should be very afraid of this new Everton team. Well not exactly the team, but their new-ish manager.
Ancelotti know us very well. We have a long history against him, starting in 1984 when Roma lost against us in the European cup final.
Then there's the two CL finals (2005, 2007).
Torres vs Chelsea saga. Then he joins them.
We had a lot of trouble against his Napoli team recently.

My point is, this man adapts.

Makes you wonder why the hell Man U hires Ole when this guy is around?
 
Werner do look like a player who has a somewhat of a fragile mentality. If you bully him or give him a hard tackle it might see him fade a bit out of the game.
Its early obviously and he is an excellent player but it will be interesting to see how he fares in the tough games coming up.
He's a diving cunt. He even feigned injury in a duel with Thiago when he clearly won the ball. I'm gonna try to find a clip.
 
I think we should be very afraid of this new Everton team. Well not exactly the team, but their new-ish manager.
Ancelotti know us very well. We have a long history against him, starting in 1984 when Roma lost against us in the European cup final.
Then there's the two CL finals (2005, 2007).
Torres vs Chelsea saga. Then he joins them.
We had a lot of trouble against his Napoli team recently.

My point is, this man adapts.

Makes you wonder why the hell Man U hires Ole when this guy is around?
He should have been one of the first names on their list post Ferguson.
Sets his team up well, works great with big name players and is proven at top clubs for over 2 decades. Fortunately they’ve treated us to Moyes, Mourinho, Van Gaal and OGS. Long may their current management recruitment style continue.
 
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It is weird that Leeds showed how you have a go at us last week, knock it over the top and leg it at us, and Chelsea had the players for that but decided against. Again, Lampard isn't very good.
 
He tried to play like Mourinho, only with less tactical nous so didn't target key areas properly, which imo is just Roy Hodgson with much better players.

Solid shape, block everything centrally so you can't have long shots at the shit keeper, force players out wide & then try to counter quickly.

There was no real press on our defence, if that would have been Mourinho he'd have had that solid defence but his attackers would have all been pressing constantly & he'd have bypassed midfield entirely.

Lampard just hasn't got the experience to do the tactical work he needs to do.
 
Like I said before the game, it looked like a 1-1 game. The red card definitely made a difference.
We we're running ourselves ragged in the first half and if Chelsea had XI players on the pitch, they might have scored.
Were we watching the same match ? As BBC & Sky said ... we were totally dominant and it was just a matter of time regardless of 10 or 11 players. Stats bear this out. They had one shot in the first half.
 
Their counter attacks scared me a bit.

I think that was the major issue, but Fabinho read two of their counters really well, whereas Gomez might have dived in or got caught. Robbo was easily bypassed for one chance too.

That said, I thought we dominated them in the first half, without really posing the threat we did in the second half. In the second half we clearly upped a gear from the off and obviously Thiago was a big difference. Milner did well too in causing them a bit more problems with his movement, he was a lot more penetrative than Gini and much more difficult to pick up. It helps having someone else covering the fullbacks and running the channels.
 
Were we watching the same match ? As BBC & Sky said ... we were totally dominant and it was just a matter of time regardless of 10 or 11 players. Stats bear this out. They had one shot in the first half.
I don't remember us having many clear cut chances in the first half.
 
I don't remember us having many clear cut chances in the first half.
We didn't far as I remember.

After bobby's effort was blocks (after kepa chasing down Salah), I don't remember much.

We looked like we could create, but don't remember actually testing them
 
We didn't far as I remember.

After bobby's effort was blocks (after kepa chasing down Salah), I don't remember much.

We looked like we could create, but don't remember actually testing them
Yep, pretty much what I saw.
 
They tried to play from the back for the entire 90 mins even when they were 2-0 down and one man short. LOL

200Mil. Playing at home (albeit no plastic fans to cheer them on). And they thought hitting us on the break would be the way to undo us. LOL

Someone’s bound to make a mistake playing that way, especially when you’re up against the champions of pressing. Poor Kepa.

And yet they didn’t want to change their tactics.

Lamps must be playing too much Football Manager.
 
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