Chelsea v Liverpool - Match Thread
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Not to piss on your chips but he actually dragged them down from 3rd to 4th.
Nice win... only saw it on MOTD... Chelsea's Kepa is their Loris Karius Lol
Good stuff. But let's also note: if that had been Gomez rather than Thiago (or anyone else), loads of people would be saying 'I don't care that he didn't get a touch, he may as well have done, he was naive and got drawn into it...' There's a sort of 'narrative' about Gomez these days that is pretty unfair. If someone tricks their way to a pen, then blame that player, not the defender - even when it's Gomez.
Brilliant result in a game where we’d take a pt before kick off.
Chelsea were missing some of their best attacking players and it showed.
Fantastic to have both Mane and Salah up and running early doors.
Brilliant too to be 6 pts ahead of City before they kick a ball.
#statement
Chelsea were missing some of their best attacking players and it showed.
Fantastic to have both Mane and Salah up and running early doors.
Brilliant too to be 6 pts ahead of City before they kick a ball.
#statement
The thing I really cannot let go about Lampard is his apparent desire to force Abramovich to spend another £50M+ on Declan Rice in this transfer window. It could seem insignificant among all of their other spending, but it's just so telling. The one truly strong part of the team that he has inherited from his predecessors was the midfield; even in yesterday's game Kante, Kovacic and Jorginho were the main reason they could go toe-to-toe with LFC in the first half, before being ultimately undone by errors in other areas of the pitch. Declan Rice is a good player, but he is in no way an upgrade on any of the current Chelsea midfielders; you could make an argument that investing in a younger English player is good business in the long run, but in a season where you're trying to stitch together a brand-new attack while wholesale replacing the underperforming defense AND replacing your goalkeeper, the one island of stability should be the midfield, where they actually have a couple of world-class players in their prime and some patterns of play built up over several seasons of playing together.
To even contemplate replacing Kante with Rice at the same time as doing all of the other major surgery shows either a colossal level of stupidity (which I don't think is the case with Lampard) or more likely a deep gnawing insecurity, where he needs to bring in "his" players at any cost, because he cannot bear being compared to previous managers by the experienced and mature players who played under them and now have the misfortune of having Lampard as boss. I think he is the type of a leader who deep down is not sure he's up to the job, so he needs to bring the team/company down to his level; he cannot build on the foundation laid by others, because he perceives it as a threat to his own authority. It's not a coincidence that Chelsea went from conceding 39 goals under Sarri to 54 under Lampard, that previously promising defenders like Rudiger and Christensen were made to look like hapless clowns last season. I think even Kepa will prove to be a lot better than the absolute train-wreck of a goalkeeper he's now become – and at some point (probably too late) pundits and Chelsea fans will realize their biggest problem all along hasn't been the player personnel, it was the manager.
To even contemplate replacing Kante with Rice at the same time as doing all of the other major surgery shows either a colossal level of stupidity (which I don't think is the case with Lampard) or more likely a deep gnawing insecurity, where he needs to bring in "his" players at any cost, because he cannot bear being compared to previous managers by the experienced and mature players who played under them and now have the misfortune of having Lampard as boss. I think he is the type of a leader who deep down is not sure he's up to the job, so he needs to bring the team/company down to his level; he cannot build on the foundation laid by others, because he perceives it as a threat to his own authority. It's not a coincidence that Chelsea went from conceding 39 goals under Sarri to 54 under Lampard, that previously promising defenders like Rudiger and Christensen were made to look like hapless clowns last season. I think even Kepa will prove to be a lot better than the absolute train-wreck of a goalkeeper he's now become – and at some point (probably too late) pundits and Chelsea fans will realize their biggest problem all along hasn't been the player personnel, it was the manager.
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I read Lampard wants to sign Rice and play him at centreback.
Chelsea clearly have a very talented but unbalanced squad. Far too many attacking midfielders being shoe horned into one formation. Its like Lampard though back to the days of him and Gerrard unbalancing the England team and decided the best solution is to add more attacking midfielders.
In some ways this was the ideal time to play them before they find their shape and the new players bed into a system. Id imagine they will look slightly different once Zeyich, Chillwell and Thiago are added to the team.
In the end it looked very much like what it really was, a well oiled machine where everybody knows their role versus a collection of highly skilled individuals who dont know what they are supposed to be doing.
In some ways this was the ideal time to play them before they find their shape and the new players bed into a system. Id imagine they will look slightly different once Zeyich, Chillwell and Thiago are added to the team.
In the end it looked very much like what it really was, a well oiled machine where everybody knows their role versus a collection of highly skilled individuals who dont know what they are supposed to be doing.
@rurikbird maybe its to replace Jorginho who is a liability as a defensive entity in this league. He's great pinging passes but that is actually it with him.
Chelsea clearly have a very talented but unbalanced squad. Far too many attacking midfielders being shoe horned into one formation. Its like Lampard though back to the days of him and Gerrard unbalancing the England team and decided the best solution is to add more attacking midfielders.
In some ways this was the ideal time to play them before they find their shape and the new players bed into a system. Id imagine they will look slightly different once Zeyich, Chillwell and Thiago are added to the team.
In the end it looked very much like what it really was, a well oiled machine where everybody knows their role versus a collection of highly skilled individuals who dont know what they are supposed to be doing.
In some ways this was the ideal time to play them before they find their shape and the new players bed into a system. Id imagine they will look slightly different once Zeyich, Chillwell and Thiago are added to the team.
In the end it looked very much like what it really was, a well oiled machine where everybody knows their role versus a collection of highly skilled individuals who dont know what they are supposed to be doing.
I doubt Chilwell will be a massive upgrade on Alonso, and I have similar doubts about Silva vs Rudiger as Lampards defensive set up and tactic wont suddenly improve with a newly signed 36 year old player who cant communicate well with the other players.
The change would be Pulisic, Ziyech etc who would give them more pace upfront and a stronger counter attacking team. Werner and Pulisic together would have given us more concern yesterday when we were caught in possession.
But, I thought we had everything under control until the red card as well, in all honesty. They had what, 1 shot or something and didnt look to be threathning us at all.
The change would be Pulisic, Ziyech etc who would give them more pace upfront and a stronger counter attacking team. Werner and Pulisic together would have given us more concern yesterday when we were caught in possession.
But, I thought we had everything under control until the red card as well, in all honesty. They had what, 1 shot or something and didnt look to be threathning us at all.
I’m still waiting for someone to post the pic of Lamps all pouting and fuming and looking utterly miserable from the stands.
There are reports that Chelsea are open to selling either one of Kante and Jorginho if they bring in Rice, who could cost as much as £70M. Apparently being good mates with Mason Mount is worth this much.
Lampard on Christensen sending off:
“Not definitely (a red card). It has to be clear cut, I'm not sure it was. It was one which I felt could be given, or not.”
This is what makes both OGS and Lampard even more massive cunts. The inability to just say a decision against them is correct. Solskjær is the worst. Every decision is contested and not agreed to. It says something about you as a person. Cunt.
“Not definitely (a red card). It has to be clear cut, I'm not sure it was. It was one which I felt could be given, or not.”
This is what makes both OGS and Lampard even more massive cunts. The inability to just say a decision against them is correct. Solskjær is the worst. Every decision is contested and not agreed to. It says something about you as a person. Cunt.
That would be this one...
Sorry i know this is not how we do it.....but.......LOL
They'll get there. We were excellent yesterday but they have bought well. Werner is quality and looked it in flashes yesterday. Once they all settle they will take points off the big boys, as you say though, Lampard will fall short tactically ultimately and will make way for someone else who will probably be better, with a great squad to work with.
I was lurking in the Chelsea fan forum yesterday and I barely read one post complaining about the pen. I didn't have much against Lampard as a player, never really understood the hate he got, but since he became a manager he's really started to annoy me.
I mean look at someone like Graham Potter. A fucking class act.
Speak for yourself.
I was panicking that there may have been a chance that we may not win it, full stop.
No way I'd have taken a point, psychologically this was MASSIVE ahead of City playing their first match tomorrow to get these points on the board, & one point or none would have made little difference.
Lampard had always been a cunt. It's just now he's trotted out for interviews every week as a manager, so under greater scrutiny
We won 32 of 38 matches last season. I'd never take a point before a game, and the team certainly wouldn't.
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