Cheerio Dan
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Defending Agger, the captain of Denmark, a player who clearly has great style for a defender, who stuck with the club through some shite times when massive clubs were interested in buying him, who stood firm when other clubs were throwing money at him to abandon LFC, who at his best can glide past opposing players like they're not there, a man whom Rodgers described a year or so ago as 'one of the best defenders in the world,' is hardly an odd decision. People might just prefer other defenders in the squad, although they'll all have their weaknesses ready to be exposed and amplified, but I don't much see the problem in Modo defending Agger. The fact that not many are doing the same is hardly the same as him trolling them.
Thank you for this.
I'm a big Agger fan, always have been. Defending Agger isn't a crime. I often do it. If Modo was simply defending Agger that there would be no drama. I feel the reaction he has received is due to him making absurd assertions that we would have won the league if Agger played. It was in my case anyway.
Yet we conceded less goals when After played in defense this season?
I think this is the right time to sell, as his record with injuries is not ideal and we can't risk him losing form and fitness in the middle of the season again due to injuries especially as he seems to be taking longer to recover fitness as he gets older.
But I'm with Modo on Sakhos inexperience costing us the title. We lost the title because we conceded a lot of goals. In the last three games we conceded 6 goals. I think Agger would have done a fair bit better than that. Ultimately if we had lost to Chelsea and scored all three points against Palace we would have put more pressure on City to drop points in their two remaining games....we didn't they strolled.
No offence but you have to be batshit crazy to blame Sakho for costing us the title.
If you are going to blame any single player then it has to be Gerrard for forgetting how to control a ball.
This if, but and maybe about putting pressure on City if we had beat Palace is some serious straw clutching as well, once presented with the opportunity of beating Villa and West Ham at home to win the title they were never going to mess up regardless of what we done.
If you are going to blame any single player then it has to be Gerrard for forgetting how to control a ball.
This if, but and maybe about putting pressure on City if we had beat Palace is some serious straw clutching as well, once presented with the opportunity of beating Villa and West Ham at home to win the title they were never going to mess up regardless of what we done.
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i really want the Agger of his first full season . He seemed to concentrate more on just defending then , now he seems to be complacent and sloppy at times . He had experienced leaders in there beside him and i get the feeling at times that he still needs that . Skrtel too .
Get me two proper 'no messing about' centre backs and i won't pine too long for agger or skrtel .
Get me two proper 'no messing about' centre backs and i won't pine too long for agger or skrtel .
See ya Daniel, you were directly or indirectly at fault for more goals this season than anyone else.
Oh and Modo what the actual fuck?
You are a great poster but what shit is this?
Of course nobody can disprove your theory, but likewise you can't prove it, so it's a pointless comment to say it would have made the difference.
Sure I could say if we played Alberto we'd have won and nobody can ever prove otherwise.
It's just a childish pointless post to make and worse to argue over it repeatedly.
The point of the thread should be 'should we keep Agger' or 'should he comment like this to the press'
The first point would be fine for you to lists the merits of keeping Agger and defend his ability as a player.
The 2nd is harder to defend, surely as vice captain if you are curious to where you stand in your managers eye, fucking ask him and kept it out of the press. You are our vice captain ffs. You should know better and be setting an example!
The drivel you are going on about is preventing a possibly very decent discussion forming.
You are a great poster but what shit is this?
Of course nobody can disprove your theory, but likewise you can't prove it, so it's a pointless comment to say it would have made the difference.
Sure I could say if we played Alberto we'd have won and nobody can ever prove otherwise.
It's just a childish pointless post to make and worse to argue over it repeatedly.
The point of the thread should be 'should we keep Agger' or 'should he comment like this to the press'
The first point would be fine for you to lists the merits of keeping Agger and defend his ability as a player.
The 2nd is harder to defend, surely as vice captain if you are curious to where you stand in your managers eye, fucking ask him and kept it out of the press. You are our vice captain ffs. You should know better and be setting an example!
The drivel you are going on about is preventing a possibly very decent discussion forming.
Every thread where Modo ruffles everyone's feathers, someone always jumps to his defense. Forgetting that there's generally a history behind it that goes beyond the current thread. No one gives a fuck that he has an opinion, people would just debate and argue the toss if that were the case, it's the grating way that opinion has been rammed down peoples throats, the way he skews stats (it's easy when a player is barely available), and the sly little digs he has here and there.
Now, you being far from Gerrard's biggest fan, I'm pissing against the wind here, but when he "started" as the holding player this season, in one of the earlier games when it clearly didn't work, Modo's retort was to post a heat map of Alonso the day before, for Madrid, against a minnow, in a different country, league, climate, system, etc. No real explanation, other than a "this is how a holding player plays". A holding player who's been a holding player throughout his career. He may aswell have compared Lucas on his first game as a holding player, to say, Makelele. It was a pointless, needless snide and probably only a weak example of his method of (knowingly) riling the forum.
I could probably go on to mention his ability to have the most affable of posters on the forum spitting bile, his constant "I told you so's" and digging up of stats & old posts, his failure to EVER avoid an opportunity to have a dig at past/present hates (Dalglish, Downing, Adam, Carroll, Suarez, Skrtel, Sakho, Carragher), repeatedly enthusing about past and present favourites (Aquilani, Aquilani, Lucas, Aquilani) - this without mentioning shitty little episodes like the one in the Agger thread after his spell of a few poor games, where he sought to dig out his favourite video of Carragher's fuck ups (most overrated player EVER).
Like I said, I'm pissing against the wind probably, but there's always someone jumping to his defense without really knowing or acknowledging that he's acted like a fucking bellend one too many times, that's why people have no patience for his bullshit.
It takes two to tango and Modo has a point when he says that to some his posts are red rag to a bull. A lot of the time he does do the baiting but not always.
Ultimately, Modo is not going to change and he's not going to get banned either (nor should he) so it boils down to a choice between getting into it every single time or letting it slide now and again.
Okay, I take your point. I just don't think he's doing anything wrong here and now.
If Agger defended with the same focus as Modo defends him, we won't be having this discussion at all.
Err no. He's actually debating the points you make and providing evidence against your argument.
Exactly. If he just said that we might have done better had he played, then fair enough. It's the constant bold statements, like "we'd have won the league if he played", which are just ridiculous, unfounded and typical. Even more nauseating is that it's then presented as fact.
I'll leave it anyway, let him get on with winding up the forum and disrupting threads that touch on anything he feels strongly about - the fact we all know the subjects speaks volumes. And people can jump to his defense again after he drops a bomb and then gives it all the innocent "it's just an opinion" lark. Repeat infinity.
I am a great Agger fan and he is still a top defender but the goal posts have proverbially moved. After the season that Skrtel has had its hard to imagine him dropping his standards. He showed remarkable consistency. Sakho looked awkward but was good. Agger looked off the pace when he got a chance. We need a physical, commanding presence at the back in the mould of John Terry.
Something has to give. It doesn't help that our Vice Captain is complaining to the media. He should be an example and follow Sktrel's lead who applied himself and bided his time then took his opportunity when it presented itself.
Something has to give. It doesn't help that our Vice Captain is complaining to the media. He should be an example and follow Sktrel's lead who applied himself and bided his time then took his opportunity when it presented itself.
Not really, it's kinda been made clear a million times by different posters. Just stop being a nobhead about your opinions.
Mark, you're like a bull in a modo shop
All of you fuckers wearing red doesn't help.
There are no rules in place. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. People find the delivery of your 'opinions' a tad infuriating. I suspect you are aware of this Modo.
No, but the fact that Modo, not content with defending Agger from criticism, (a) invariably tries to compare the other CBs unfavourably with him at the same time and/or (b) drags his Agger monomania into assorted other threads which have bugger all to do with Agger most certainly is.
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