Champions League Tuesday
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37372.msg996970#msg996970 date=1259023549]
Right...
Fiorentina will be without Mutu, Jovetic and Gamberini apparently.
Fiorentina have faced Lyon 3 times in this comp in the past 15 months, lose twice and drawing once.
Fiorentina conceded 5 goals to fucking Debrecen, and 3 on Sunday to Parma.
Lyon have scored at least once in every Champions League game they've played in the last 3 years.
GET YOUR HOPES UP PEOPLES.
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Are either of those two the lad who ran us raged a few weeks back?
Right...
Fiorentina will be without Mutu, Jovetic and Gamberini apparently.
Fiorentina have faced Lyon 3 times in this comp in the past 15 months, lose twice and drawing once.
Fiorentina conceded 5 goals to fucking Debrecen, and 3 on Sunday to Parma.
Lyon have scored at least once in every Champions League game they've played in the last 3 years.
GET YOUR HOPES UP PEOPLES.
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Are either of those two the lad who ran us raged a few weeks back?
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=37372.msg997044#msg997044 date=1259031034]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37372.msg996970#msg996970 date=1259023549]
Right...
Fiorentina will be without Mutu, Jovetic and Gamberini apparently.
Fiorentina have faced Lyon 3 times in this comp in the past 15 months, lose twice and drawing once.
Fiorentina conceded 5 goals to fucking Debrecen, and 3 on Sunday to Parma.
Lyon have scored at least once in every Champions League game they've played in the last 3 years.
GET YOUR HOPES UP PEOPLES.
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Are either of those two the lad who ran us raged a few weeks back?
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Yup, Jovetic.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37372.msg996970#msg996970 date=1259023549]
Right...
Fiorentina will be without Mutu, Jovetic and Gamberini apparently.
Fiorentina have faced Lyon 3 times in this comp in the past 15 months, lose twice and drawing once.
Fiorentina conceded 5 goals to fucking Debrecen, and 3 on Sunday to Parma.
Lyon have scored at least once in every Champions League game they've played in the last 3 years.
GET YOUR HOPES UP PEOPLES.
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Are either of those two the lad who ran us raged a few weeks back?
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Yup, Jovetic.
Y'know, unless Lyon tank it, because they know we'd be more dangerous later on into the competition if we do somehow survive, they're the better team, and they should be able to take at least a point tomorrow.
Like you, I actually worry that we won't win our feckin' game, thus rendering any help received irrelevant.
Like you, I actually worry that we won't win our feckin' game, thus rendering any help received irrelevant.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37372.msg997067#msg997067 date=1259037057]
Jesus.
Jean-Alain Boumsong is expected to partner Cris in the centre of Lyon's defence tonight.
We're doomed.
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I don't quite know what to say about that. I'm certainly not pleased.
Jesus.
Jean-Alain Boumsong is expected to partner Cris in the centre of Lyon's defence tonight.
We're doomed.
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I don't quite know what to say about that. I'm certainly not pleased.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37372.msg997052#msg997052 date=1259032005]
Nah, we'll hump Debrecen. They're fucking rubbish.
Lyon though have a few players out as well, and I wasn't impressed with them in the game in France. If they can be arsed then they're probably capable of getting a result in Itlay. If they can be arsed though.
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We will be counting on that never say die French attitude.
Nah, we'll hump Debrecen. They're fucking rubbish.
Lyon though have a few players out as well, and I wasn't impressed with them in the game in France. If they can be arsed then they're probably capable of getting a result in Itlay. If they can be arsed though.
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We will be counting on that never say die French attitude.
[quote author=Mistadobalina link=topic=37372.msg997077#msg997077 date=1259039038]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37372.msg997052#msg997052 date=1259032005]
Nah, we'll hump Debrecen. They're fucking rubbish.
Lyon though have a few players out as well, and I wasn't impressed with them in the game in France. If they can be arsed then they're probably capable of getting a result in Itlay. If they can be arsed though.
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We will be counting on that never say die French attitude.
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At least they're not playing Bayern.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37372.msg997052#msg997052 date=1259032005]
Nah, we'll hump Debrecen. They're fucking rubbish.
Lyon though have a few players out as well, and I wasn't impressed with them in the game in France. If they can be arsed then they're probably capable of getting a result in Itlay. If they can be arsed though.
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We will be counting on that never say die French attitude.
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At least they're not playing Bayern.
[quote author=darkstarexodus link=topic=37372.msg997079#msg997079 date=1259039338]
[quote author=Mistadobalina link=topic=37372.msg997077#msg997077 date=1259039038]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37372.msg997052#msg997052 date=1259032005]
Nah, we'll hump Debrecen. They're fucking rubbish.
Lyon though have a few players out as well, and I wasn't impressed with them in the game in France. If they can be arsed then they're probably capable of getting a result in Itlay. If they can be arsed though.
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We will be counting on that never say die French attitude.
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At least they're not playing Bayern.
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Ha Ha !
[quote author=Mistadobalina link=topic=37372.msg997077#msg997077 date=1259039038]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37372.msg997052#msg997052 date=1259032005]
Nah, we'll hump Debrecen. They're fucking rubbish.
Lyon though have a few players out as well, and I wasn't impressed with them in the game in France. If they can be arsed then they're probably capable of getting a result in Itlay. If they can be arsed though.
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We will be counting on that never say die French attitude.
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At least they're not playing Bayern.
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Ha Ha !
Liverpool's Champions League fate may be out of their hands but that is not to say it has already been decided. Fiorentina would need to beat Lyon at Stadio Artemio Franchi tomorrow night to be sure of reaching the knock-out stage at the Premier League side's expense and, if recent history is anything to go by, that is certainly not a foregone conclusion. After being drawn in the same group last year, Fiorentina and Lyon have faced each other three times in this competition over the past 15 months, and so far the Italians' record reads: drawn one, lost two. When the two sides met in Florence in the fifth game of the group stage last season Fiorentina knew they needed a win to have any hopes of reaching the knock-out stages. They lost 2-1.
That was with something approaching a full-strength side, a luxury the Fiorentina manager, Cesare Prandelli, has already acknowledged he will not have at his disposal tomorrow night. The former Chelsea striker Adrian Mutu, who tore the meniscus in his knee earlier this month, was ruled out of this game by his manager on Sunday, as was his most likely replacement, Stevan Jovetic – the scorer of both Fiorentina's goals against Liverpool in September – though the latter has since trained and still hopes to be involved. The centre-back Alessandro Gamberini is also out injured.
"We are better than last season, this squad has matured a great deal," said the Fiorentina captain, Dario Dainelli, when reminded of last year's defeat to Lyon. But in the league there has been scant evidence of improvement.
After a 3-2 defeat to newly-promoted Parma on Saturday, Fiorentina sit sixth, two points worse off than they were at the corresponding point last term. Many fans are frustrated at the club's failure to reinvest more than a fraction of the €20.5m they received when selling Felipe Melo to Juventus in the summer. A defence that had given up five goals in two Champions League games against Debrecen was opened up far too easily by Parma, and Prandelli will be all too aware that Lyon have scored at least once in every Champions League game they have played since the 2007-08 season. That puts a lot of pressure on Gilardino – sent off in the first leg for what was ruled to be an elbow on Jérémy Toulalan – who is likely to play alone up front in the absence of Mutu and Jovetic.
Lyon, however, have injuries of their own to contend with, and are likely to be without midfielders Maxime Gonalons and Toulalan, full-backs Anthony Réveillère and François Clerc and centre-back Mathieu Bodmer. Although they sit third in Ligue 1, Claude Puel's side are also coming off a disappointing result, having conceded a late equaliser to draw 1-1 with a last-placed Grenoble team who had previously claimed one point from 12 games.
The French side have already qualified but their captain, Cris, insisted that did not mean they would take their foot off the pedal tomorrow. "The objective was to qualify, now we have the chance to get first place," he said. "It will be hard because Fiorentina want to book their place. We're expecting a very physical match."
That was with something approaching a full-strength side, a luxury the Fiorentina manager, Cesare Prandelli, has already acknowledged he will not have at his disposal tomorrow night. The former Chelsea striker Adrian Mutu, who tore the meniscus in his knee earlier this month, was ruled out of this game by his manager on Sunday, as was his most likely replacement, Stevan Jovetic – the scorer of both Fiorentina's goals against Liverpool in September – though the latter has since trained and still hopes to be involved. The centre-back Alessandro Gamberini is also out injured.
"We are better than last season, this squad has matured a great deal," said the Fiorentina captain, Dario Dainelli, when reminded of last year's defeat to Lyon. But in the league there has been scant evidence of improvement.
After a 3-2 defeat to newly-promoted Parma on Saturday, Fiorentina sit sixth, two points worse off than they were at the corresponding point last term. Many fans are frustrated at the club's failure to reinvest more than a fraction of the €20.5m they received when selling Felipe Melo to Juventus in the summer. A defence that had given up five goals in two Champions League games against Debrecen was opened up far too easily by Parma, and Prandelli will be all too aware that Lyon have scored at least once in every Champions League game they have played since the 2007-08 season. That puts a lot of pressure on Gilardino – sent off in the first leg for what was ruled to be an elbow on Jérémy Toulalan – who is likely to play alone up front in the absence of Mutu and Jovetic.
Lyon, however, have injuries of their own to contend with, and are likely to be without midfielders Maxime Gonalons and Toulalan, full-backs Anthony Réveillère and François Clerc and centre-back Mathieu Bodmer. Although they sit third in Ligue 1, Claude Puel's side are also coming off a disappointing result, having conceded a late equaliser to draw 1-1 with a last-placed Grenoble team who had previously claimed one point from 12 games.
The French side have already qualified but their captain, Cris, insisted that did not mean they would take their foot off the pedal tomorrow. "The objective was to qualify, now we have the chance to get first place," he said. "It will be hard because Fiorentina want to book their place. We're expecting a very physical match."
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37372.msg997052#msg997052 date=1259032005]
Nah, we'll hump Debrecen. They're fucking rubbish.
Lyon though have a few players out as well, and I wasn't impressed with them in the game in France. If they can be arsed then they're probably capable of getting a result in Itlay. If they can be arsed though.
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I'm not so sure. I think in our situation even Debrecen will be a difficult task.
Nah, we'll hump Debrecen. They're fucking rubbish.
Lyon though have a few players out as well, and I wasn't impressed with them in the game in France. If they can be arsed then they're probably capable of getting a result in Itlay. If they can be arsed though.
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I'm not so sure. I think in our situation even Debrecen will be a difficult task.
[quote author=themn link=topic=37372.msg997150#msg997150 date=1259054390]
The Sky ad for tonight's game says that we're looking to Fiorentina for help in evading elimination.
It's been running a few days now and no cock head has realised the error.
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Maybe the betting scandal escalates...
The Sky ad for tonight's game says that we're looking to Fiorentina for help in evading elimination.
It's been running a few days now and no cock head has realised the error.
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Maybe the betting scandal escalates...
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37372.msg997067#msg997067 date=1259037057]
Jesus.
Jean-Alain Boumsong is expected to partner Cris in the centre of Lyon's defence tonight.
We're doomed.
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Dont forget he is N'Gog's cousin so Im sure he'll be putting in a big effort
Jesus.
Jean-Alain Boumsong is expected to partner Cris in the centre of Lyon's defence tonight.
We're doomed.
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Dont forget he is N'Gog's cousin so Im sure he'll be putting in a big effort
personally I wish they would show the flor v lyon game because if florentina win our game is absolutely irrelavent.
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=37372.msg997167#msg997167 date=1259057377]
After the run we've been on I can't believe people can still be so sure that we'll beat Debrecan.
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Yeah. My biggest concern is Fiorentina draw and we don't win. 1 win in 10 is absolutely shocking form whatever way you look at it.
If we go out tonight, I'm not sure I'll be pleased if we make the Europa league. Prefer to go out of Europe all together. For finances, it might be necessary, but the embarrassment of playing on Thursday nights on Channel 5, after Arse/United/Chelsea play glamour-ties on Tuesday/Wednesday would be almost too much to bear. Winning the UEFA cup/Europa League would be small change for me.
After the run we've been on I can't believe people can still be so sure that we'll beat Debrecan.
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Yeah. My biggest concern is Fiorentina draw and we don't win. 1 win in 10 is absolutely shocking form whatever way you look at it.
If we go out tonight, I'm not sure I'll be pleased if we make the Europa league. Prefer to go out of Europe all together. For finances, it might be necessary, but the embarrassment of playing on Thursday nights on Channel 5, after Arse/United/Chelsea play glamour-ties on Tuesday/Wednesday would be almost too much to bear. Winning the UEFA cup/Europa League would be small change for me.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=37372.msg997194#msg997194 date=1259059116]
personally I wish they would show the flor v lyon game because if florentina win our game is absolutely irrelavent.
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What a load of bolox. So if Lyon are winning you wouldn't want to watch the Liverpool one? Sure.
personally I wish they would show the flor v lyon game because if florentina win our game is absolutely irrelavent.
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What a load of bolox. So if Lyon are winning you wouldn't want to watch the Liverpool one? Sure.
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=37372.msg997225#msg997225 date=1259063945]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=37372.msg997194#msg997194 date=1259059116]
personally I wish they would show the flor v lyon game because if florentina win our game is absolutely irrelavent.
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What a load of bolox. So if Lyon are winning you wouldn't want to watch the Liverpool one? Sure.
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Both games are on anyways, so I don't get it.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=37372.msg997194#msg997194 date=1259059116]
personally I wish they would show the flor v lyon game because if florentina win our game is absolutely irrelavent.
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What a load of bolox. So if Lyon are winning you wouldn't want to watch the Liverpool one? Sure.
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Both games are on anyways, so I don't get it.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=37372.msg997237#msg997237 date=1259065527]
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=37372.msg997225#msg997225 date=1259063945]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=37372.msg997194#msg997194 date=1259059116]
personally I wish they would show the flor v lyon game because if florentina win our game is absolutely irrelavent.
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What a load of bolox. So if Lyon are winning you wouldn't want to watch the Liverpool one? Sure.
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Both games are on anyways, so I don't get it.
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It is Spider-Neil, so that's it.
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=37372.msg997225#msg997225 date=1259063945]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=37372.msg997194#msg997194 date=1259059116]
personally I wish they would show the flor v lyon game because if florentina win our game is absolutely irrelavent.
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What a load of bolox. So if Lyon are winning you wouldn't want to watch the Liverpool one? Sure.
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Both games are on anyways, so I don't get it.
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It is Spider-Neil, so that's it.
I suppose it is all dependent on the scorelines as to which games becomes more watchable.
If liverpool are three up and the other game is level then it becomes watchable.
Likewise if Lyon are well up and Liverpool only drawing then we watch liverpool.
Of course if Fiorentina are winning comfortably we might as well turn over and watch coronation street. :'(
If liverpool are three up and the other game is level then it becomes watchable.
Likewise if Lyon are well up and Liverpool only drawing then we watch liverpool.
Of course if Fiorentina are winning comfortably we might as well turn over and watch coronation street. :'(
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=37372.msg997239#msg997239 date=1259065684]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=37372.msg997237#msg997237 date=1259065527]
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=37372.msg997225#msg997225 date=1259063945]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=37372.msg997194#msg997194 date=1259059116]
personally I wish they would show the flor v lyon game because if florentina win our game is absolutely irrelavent.
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What a load of bolox. So if Lyon are winning you wouldn't want to watch the Liverpool one? Sure.
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Both games are on anyways, so I don't get it.
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It is Spider-Neil, so that's it.
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charming.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=37372.msg997237#msg997237 date=1259065527]
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=37372.msg997225#msg997225 date=1259063945]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=37372.msg997194#msg997194 date=1259059116]
personally I wish they would show the flor v lyon game because if florentina win our game is absolutely irrelavent.
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What a load of bolox. So if Lyon are winning you wouldn't want to watch the Liverpool one? Sure.
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Both games are on anyways, so I don't get it.
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It is Spider-Neil, so that's it.
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charming.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=37372.msg997268#msg997268 date=1259067625]
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=37372.msg997239#msg997239 date=1259065684]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=37372.msg997237#msg997237 date=1259065527]
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=37372.msg997225#msg997225 date=1259063945]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=37372.msg997194#msg997194 date=1259059116]
personally I wish they would show the flor v lyon game because if florentina win our game is absolutely irrelavent.
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What a load of bolox. So if Lyon are winning you wouldn't want to watch the Liverpool one? Sure.
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Both games are on anyways, so I don't get it.
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It is Spider-Neil, so that's it.
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charming.
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:-*
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=37372.msg997239#msg997239 date=1259065684]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=37372.msg997237#msg997237 date=1259065527]
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=37372.msg997225#msg997225 date=1259063945]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=37372.msg997194#msg997194 date=1259059116]
personally I wish they would show the flor v lyon game because if florentina win our game is absolutely irrelavent.
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What a load of bolox. So if Lyon are winning you wouldn't want to watch the Liverpool one? Sure.
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Both games are on anyways, so I don't get it.
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It is Spider-Neil, so that's it.
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charming.
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:-*
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=37372.msg997167#msg997167 date=1259057377]
After the run we've been on I can't believe people can still be so sure that we'll beat Debrecan.
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Indeedy, if Lucas starts tonight (and he will) my bet in the betting forum (where I have doubled my money so far this season) will be a £10 lay of the Liverpool victory (i.e. betting against us winning). My potential liability will be only £3.30 with £10 being the potential winnings.
I don't particularly like betting against us but it has proved very profitable this season and it is my silver lining to this dark, dark cloud we are under.
After the run we've been on I can't believe people can still be so sure that we'll beat Debrecan.
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Indeedy, if Lucas starts tonight (and he will) my bet in the betting forum (where I have doubled my money so far this season) will be a £10 lay of the Liverpool victory (i.e. betting against us winning). My potential liability will be only £3.30 with £10 being the potential winnings.
I don't particularly like betting against us but it has proved very profitable this season and it is my silver lining to this dark, dark cloud we are under.
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=37372.msg996545#msg996545 date=1259008763]
Gerrard on the right then.
Jamie Redknapp might explode
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Literally.
Gerrard on the right then.
Jamie Redknapp might explode
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Literally.
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