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CAN LIVERPOOL PULL OFF 'OPERATION JOSE'?

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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=39642.msg1081489#msg1081489 date=1270372251]
And recording matches on the dvr and watching them on fast forward.
[/quote]You too eh?
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39642.msg1081491#msg1081491 date=1270372563]
you'll be fine, you've had 10 years of it, you'd think you'd be used to it by now 😉
[/quote]Id rather watch a Houllier team over a Rafa one every day of the week.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39642.msg1081490#msg1081490 date=1270372348]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=39642.msg1081489#msg1081489 date=1270372251]
And recording matches on the dvr and watching them on fast forward.
[/quote]You too eh?
[/quote]

This year has been the first time ever that I've not cleared the decks to watch all of our games, I still watch them but other things are starting to take precedence over them and I'm not bothered about missing them.

We're on a road to nowhere right now and it's painful to watch.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=39642.msg1081494#msg1081494 date=1270372839]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39642.msg1081490#msg1081490 date=1270372348]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=39642.msg1081489#msg1081489 date=1270372251]
And recording matches on the dvr and watching them on fast forward.
[/quote]You too eh?
[/quote]

This year has been the first time ever that I've not cleared the decks to watch all of our games, I still watch them but other things are starting to take precedence over them and I'm not bothered about missing them.

We're on a road to nowhere right now and it's painful to watch.


[/quote]If they arent televised i dont watch them very often. If ive recorded it and its a 1-0 0-1 0-0 etc i just whip through it.
I hate Rafa and our shitty fucking football.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39642.msg1081492#msg1081492 date=1270372636]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39642.msg1081491#msg1081491 date=1270372563]
you'll be fine, you've had 10 years of it, you'd think you'd be used to it by now 😉
[/quote]Id rather watch a Houllier team over a Rafa one every day of the week.

[/quote]
Now I know you're taking the p*ss mate...

No-one in their right mind would prefer that.
 
I have a higher tolerence for mediocrity than you guys (hense my babel love ha ha) so I haven't reached the point of gh's final year where is I have something else to do I would do that rather than watch us. when it reaches that stage its time for a change and it hasn't reached that stage for me yet.
 
[quote author=KHL link=topic=39642.msg1081501#msg1081501 date=1270373052]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39642.msg1081492#msg1081492 date=1270372636]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39642.msg1081491#msg1081491 date=1270372563]
you'll be fine, you've had 10 years of it, you'd think you'd be used to it by now 😉
[/quote]Id rather watch a Houllier team over a Rafa one every day of the week.

[/quote]
Now I know you're taking the p*ss mate...

No-one in their right mind would prefer that.
[/quote]Every fucking day mate.
 
Have had a nice Easter really, logs on to 6CM this morning and scrolls through a miserable thread like this..

Someone's just killed the Easter bunny.
 
get rid of rafa and bring in jose but his football is soooooo much better.
if you were talking rijkaard then I get see where you're coming from.
 
[quote author=KHL link=topic=39642.msg1081504#msg1081504 date=1270373314]
Have had a nice Easter really, logs on to 6CM this morning and scrolls through a miserable thread like this..

Someone's just killed the Easter bunny.
[/quote]

*wipes chocolate from mouth*
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39642.msg1081505#msg1081505 date=1270373412]
get rid of rafa and bring in jose but his football is soooooo much better.
if you were talking rijkaard then I get see where you're coming from.
[/quote]Look i'll take shit football if were a winning team.
I want great flowing arsenalesque football obviously but more important is success. Rafa delivers neither and never will.
Hes a fucking failure. A flop. A loser.
We will never win with him. He will NEVER change.
 
[quote author=Mamma Mia link=topic=39642.msg1081508#msg1081508 date=1270373616]
Load of shit thread. From start to fnish.
[/quote]

Insightful comment, greatly appreciated.
 
[quote author=Mamma Mia link=topic=39642.msg1081508#msg1081508 date=1270373616]
Load of shit thread. From start to fnish.
[/quote]I genuinely feel sorry for you and Khl and Neil etc And i dont mean in a patronising way. It must be shit to come on here and elsewhere and read all the negativity and bitterness from almost everyone. I wish i still believed but i dont. Im done.
I am sorry that it would make you feel bad though. But he has to go. He has to.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39642.msg1081503#msg1081503 date=1270373226]
[quote author=KHL link=topic=39642.msg1081501#msg1081501 date=1270373052]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39642.msg1081492#msg1081492 date=1270372636]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39642.msg1081491#msg1081491 date=1270372563]
you'll be fine, you've had 10 years of it, you'd think you'd be used to it by now 😉
[/quote]Id rather watch a Houllier team over a Rafa one every day of the week.

[/quote]
Now I know you're taking the p*ss mate...

No-one in their right mind would prefer that.
[/quote]Every fucking day mate.
[/quote]
That's just really weird.

Name a few of the top-games from Houlliers tenure maybe I've forgotten some but in the meantime you can have some from Rafas tenure to put in your DVD. I'll recommend the following:

The Olympiacos-game
The Juve-game
ChL trophy game - best ever
The FA Cup final
The 4-1 United bashing at Old Toilet
The two Chelsea games in the ChL that we won on agg.
The 4-4 Arsenal-game
The goals-galore away game at Stamford in last years ChL
The 4-1 trashing of Real
The aggregate ChL-wins over probably the best team in the world in Barca - even managing to win at their ground in the making
The 8-1 thrashing over Besiktas
The three or four consecutive Derby-wins over Everton - even when playing with 10 men
The double in the ChL over Inter

And that's just the games at the top of my head...

You really are a bunch of miserable tossers on here at times aren't you?

Anyways as you were, I've got a Easter-spirit to resurrect.. 😀
 
[quote author=KHL link=topic=39642.msg1081512#msg1081512 date=1270373935]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39642.msg1081503#msg1081503 date=1270373226]
[quote author=KHL link=topic=39642.msg1081501#msg1081501 date=1270373052]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39642.msg1081492#msg1081492 date=1270372636]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39642.msg1081491#msg1081491 date=1270372563]
you'll be fine, you've had 10 years of it, you'd think you'd be used to it by now 😉
[/quote]Id rather watch a Houllier team over a Rafa one every day of the week.

[/quote]
Now I know you're taking the p*ss mate...

No-one in their right mind would prefer that.
[/quote]Every fucking day mate.
[/quote]
That's just really weird.

Name a few of the top-games from Houlliers tenure maybe I've forgotten some but in the meantime you can have some from Rafas tenure to put in your DVD. I'll recommend the following:

The Olympiacos-game
The Juve-game
ChL trophy game - best ever
The FA Cup final
The 4-1 United bashing at Old Toilet
The two Chelsea games in the ChL that we won on agg.
The 4-4 Arsenal-game
The goals-galore away game at Stamford in last years ChL
The 4-1 trashing of Real
The aggregate ChL-wins over probably the best team in the world in Barca - even managing to win at their ground in the making
The 8-1 thrashing over Besiktas
The three or four consecutive Derby-wins over Everton - even when playing with 10 men
The double in the ChL over Inter

And that's just the games at the top of my head...

You really are a bunch of miserable tossers on here at times aren't you?

Anyways as you were, I've got a Easter-spirit to resurrect.. 😀

[/quote]Uefa cup final
Beating Roma
Beating Barcelona
Beating Everton in the last minute
Beating Man Utd every fucking year twice a year
FA cup final
Carling cup final
Battering Charlton last day of the season.
Beating Arsenal year in year out.
The game against leeds when we hit them with three goals from outside the area.
Theres loads mate.
The point is this. I love Houllier and i believed in him. I loved Murphy and Berger and Smicer and Heskey and Fowler and Owen and Henchoz and Hyppia and Hamman and Riise and Finnan etc etc
I hate Rafa and most of his players. And i hate 2 defensive midfielders at home and pragmatism agains fucking cannon fodder.
Yes Houllier lost games to dross that we would now draw but i had an affection with the club and players.
 
Under Houllier we were a UEFA Cup team.

Rafa's clearly made us a Champions League-team taking us there 5 years in a row.

One Seasons failure won't change the fact that we've made tremendous progress. Only a stubborn fool would deny that.

Fact.
 
[quote author=KHL link=topic=39642.msg1081514#msg1081514 date=1270374332]
Under Houllier we were a UEFA Cup team.

Rafa's clearly made us a Champions League-team taking us there 5 years in a row.

One Seasons failure won't change the fact that we've made tremendous progress. Only a stubborn fool would deny that.

Fact.
[/quote]One seasons failure. Sorry what have we won in the last 4 seasons?
He's a loser. You have bought into his loser mentallity. Your happy to be competing for 4th just to play in a competition we have no longer any hope of winning since Rafa dissasembled the team of winners he took over and assembled his own team of losers.
FACT
 
I'm not going to go down the khl road by saying everything is peachy

a) he waits too long to make his subs
b) he often keeps players in the team who are in poor form
c) he sometimes drops players who are in (relatively) good form
d) he plays two out and out holding midfielders (but only this season)
e) we are too cautious away from home

I don't really have a problem with rafa's signings because I recognise he has had to sell to buy so improvements to the sqaud in that situation is going to at best incremental.
so I have no problem with reading negativity and 'rafa out' I can completely see where people are coming from but I personally haven't reached that stage yet.

people wanted rafa out last season before we went on an amazing run. I personally think this season is a blip not a trend but I can understand the people who want rid but they are going to have to deal with rafa next season because if he is sacked this summer I will eat my hat.
 
There's some good games right there Oncy but if you can't see there's a gulf in terms of importance and results compared to the past five years then I'll stay baffled.

We won the UEFA Cup under Houllier against Alaves - whereas we've won the Champions League under Rafa against AC Milan. We've even been to yet another another Champions League final too?

And personally I'd prefer the players under Rafa in the likes of Masher, Reina, Agger, Torres, Kuyt, Johnson, Alonso and Benayoun compared to Houlliers folks.

Once again there's a gulf in class.

In my opinion.
 
I haven't said everything is peachy? Don't make things up Spidey.

I'm just saying there's some miserable, stubborn posts and posters on here from time to time.

*big grin*
 
I can just imagine the legions of apologists hererunning around in the streets waving flags and scarves with tears streaming down their faces if we somehow make 4th place.

The Red Machine at work.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39642.msg1081507#msg1081507 date=1270373541]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39642.msg1081505#msg1081505 date=1270373412]
get rid of rafa and bring in jose but his football is soooooo much better.
if you were talking rijkaard then I get see where you're coming from.
[/quote]Look i'll take shit football if were a winning team.
I want great flowing arsenalesque football obviously but more important is success. Rafa delivers neither and never will.
Hes a fucking failure. A flop. A loser.
We will never win with him. He will NEVER change.
[/quote]

That has to be one of the funniest things I've read on here.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39642.msg1081516#msg1081516 date=1270374492]
[quote author=KHL link=topic=39642.msg1081514#msg1081514 date=1270374332]
Under Houllier we were a UEFA Cup team.

Rafa's clearly made us a Champions League-team taking us there 5 years in a row.

One Seasons failure won't change the fact that we've made tremendous progress. Only a stubborn fool would deny that.

Fact.
[/quote]One seasons failure. Sorry what have we won in the last 4 seasons?
He's a loser. You have bought into his loser mentallity. Your happy to be competing for 4th just to play in a competition we have no longer any hope of winning since Rafa dissasembled the team of winners he took over and assembled his own team of losers.
FACT
[/quote]
He took over a team of winners you say? Apart from Carra and Gerrard and the Great albeit ageing Sami and Didi I disagree.

Dudek, Smicer, Traore, Biscan, Diao, Diouf (was he still around), Henchoz, Pongolle, Baros, Cisse, Kewell, Warnock, Mellor, Murphy... mediocrity galore.

Not exactly what I'd call 'winners'.

Sami, Carragher, Gerrard, Garcia, Didi and Alonso were the ones winning the Champions League with help from Rafas tactical nous and leadership. And good luck.
 
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=39642.msg1081522#msg1081522 date=1270375090]

I can just imagine the legions of apologists hererunning around in the streets waving flags and scarves with tears streaming down their faces if we somehow make 4th place.

The Red Machine at work.
[/quote]
No-one will be celebrating in the streets beacuse of 4th.

What's your point?

Has it actually got anyhting to do with what's beeing discussed or is it just your standard reply to everyone who isn't a hater?
 
Not sure if I'd use Istanbul as the best example of his 'tactical nous', but whatever works for The Cult.
 
KHL Your completely disregarding Houlliers achievements.
He took a shite squad going nowhere and winning FUCK ALL and turned us into the a winning team with a winning mentality.
Benitez took over a team ready to win the EUROPEAN CUP and turned us into......well who the fuck knows what we are now.

Houllier -
Games - 307
Wins - 160
Losses - 71

Benitez -
Games - 322
Wins - 184
Losses - 74

Houllier -
7th - with Evans
4th
3rd
2nd
5th - Non qualification for the champions league.
4th

Benitez -
5th - Non qualification for the champions league (fifa ammended rules)
3rd
3rd
4th
2nd
??? - Almost certainly non qualification for the champions league.

Houllier -
FA CUP WIN 2000
LEAGUE CUP WIN 2000
UEFA CUP WIN 2000
SUPER CUP WIN 2001
CHARITY SHIELD WIN 2001
LEAGUE CUP WIN 2003

Benitez -
EUROPEAN CUP WIN 2005
FA CUP WIN 2006
SUPER CUP WIN 2006
CHARITY SHIELD WIN 2006
 
[quote author=KHL link=topic=39642.msg1081531#msg1081531 date=1270375889]
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=39642.msg1081522#msg1081522 date=1270375090]

I can just imagine the legions of apologists hererunning around in the streets waving flags and scarves with tears streaming down their faces if we somehow make 4th place.

The Red Machine at work.
[/quote]
No-one will be celebrating in the streets beacuse of 4th.

What's your point?

Has it actually got anyhting to do with what's beeing discussed or is it just your standard reply to everyone who isn't a hater?
[/quote]



Actually, what wsa being discussed was whether we'd be successful in bringing in Mourinho, Kristian.
 
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