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BYE BYE ROY!!!!!

[quote author=KopKing link=topic=42120.msg1217767#msg1217767 date=1289677729]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217760#msg1217760 date=1289677570]
He'll be gone soon enough, but this squad has been fucked up by his predecessor and that's going to act as a great burden for any incoming manager.
[/quote]

So in other words, it's Rafa's fault, right?
[/quote]

Much of it.

We've got an average, ageing squad on high wages, and this isn't easy to rectify.
 
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=42120.msg1217758#msg1217758 date=1289677551]
And this guy was supposed to be a safe pair of hands!!

Giving our team to him was like asking Edward Scissorhands to babysit a pet jellyfish.
[/quote]

Ha. I think I'll leave you all now, and go and eat something, talk to my family etc. Thanks for ending it on a high, Gene.
 
Wigan, Stoke, Blackpool, Everton, Citeh, United = 1 point.

I reckon a team from the conference could get more than that.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217777#msg1217777 date=1289677915]
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=42120.msg1217767#msg1217767 date=1289677729]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217760#msg1217760 date=1289677570]
He'll be gone soon enough, but this squad has been fucked up by his predecessor and that's going to act as a great burden for any incoming manager.
[/quote]

So in other words, it's Rafa's fault, right?
[/quote]

Much of it.

We've got an average, ageing squad on high wages, and this isn't easy to rectify.
[/quote]
Then we should stick with Roy, it's not his fault.
 
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=42120.msg1217780#msg1217780 date=1289678005]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217777#msg1217777 date=1289677915]
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=42120.msg1217767#msg1217767 date=1289677729]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217760#msg1217760 date=1289677570]
He'll be gone soon enough, but this squad has been fucked up by his predecessor and that's going to act as a great burden for any incoming manager.
[/quote]

So in other words, it's Rafa's fault, right?
[/quote]

Much of it.

We've got an average, ageing squad on high wages, and this isn't easy to rectify.
[/quote]
Then we should stick with Roy, it's not his fault.
[/quote]

I didn't say that.

You're very simple minded.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217777#msg1217777 date=1289677915]
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=42120.msg1217767#msg1217767 date=1289677729]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217760#msg1217760 date=1289677570]
He'll be gone soon enough, but this squad has been fucked up by his predecessor and that's going to act as a great burden for any incoming manager.
[/quote]

So in other words, it's Rafa's fault, right?
[/quote]

Much of it.

We've got an average, ageing squad on high wages, and this isn't easy to rectify.
[/quote]

Ridiculus. Roy is inept. he cant keep living off the back of 'its Rafa's fault'. As much as Sky want him too. Awful result today. Stoke have been gash all season. Gasher than us even.

No excuses today.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217784#msg1217784 date=1289678193]
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=42120.msg1217780#msg1217780 date=1289678005]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217777#msg1217777 date=1289677915]
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=42120.msg1217767#msg1217767 date=1289677729]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217760#msg1217760 date=1289677570]
He'll be gone soon enough, but this squad has been fucked up by his predecessor and that's going to act as a great burden for any incoming manager.
[/quote]

So in other words, it's Rafa's fault, right?
[/quote]

Much of it.

We've got an average, ageing squad on high wages, and this isn't easy to rectify.
[/quote]
Then we should stick with Roy, it's not his fault.
[/quote]

I didn't say that.

You're very simple minded.
[/quote]

Don't even bother Squiggs. It is very clear what point you are making here.
 
[quote author=23carragold link=topic=42120.msg1217788#msg1217788 date=1289678324]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217777#msg1217777 date=1289677915]
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=42120.msg1217767#msg1217767 date=1289677729]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217760#msg1217760 date=1289677570]
He'll be gone soon enough, but this squad has been fucked up by his predecessor and that's going to act as a great burden for any incoming manager.
[/quote]

So in other words, it's Rafa's fault, right?
[/quote]

Much of it.

We've got an average, ageing squad on high wages, and this isn't easy to rectify.
[/quote]

Ridiculus. Roy is inept. he cant keep living off the back of 'its Rafa's fault'. As much as Sky want him too. Awful result today. Stoke have been gash all season. Gasher than us even.

No excuses today.
[/quote]

I meant in terms of building for the future, not some one-off result against Stoke.

Jesus Christ.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217784#msg1217784 date=1289678193]
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=42120.msg1217780#msg1217780 date=1289678005]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217777#msg1217777 date=1289677915]
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=42120.msg1217767#msg1217767 date=1289677729]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217760#msg1217760 date=1289677570]
He'll be gone soon enough, but this squad has been fucked up by his predecessor and that's going to act as a great burden for any incoming manager.
[/quote]

So in other words, it's Rafa's fault, right?
[/quote]

Much of it.

We've got an average, ageing squad on high wages, and this isn't easy to rectify.
[/quote]
Then we should stick with Roy, it's not his fault.
[/quote]

I didn't say that.

You're very simple minded.
[/quote]

You said 'much of it' is Rafa's fault, given that, it would be unfair to sack Roy then, no?
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217791#msg1217791 date=1289678373]
[quote author=23carragold link=topic=42120.msg1217788#msg1217788 date=1289678324]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217777#msg1217777 date=1289677915]
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=42120.msg1217767#msg1217767 date=1289677729]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217760#msg1217760 date=1289677570]
He'll be gone soon enough, but this squad has been fucked up by his predecessor and that's going to act as a great burden for any incoming manager.
[/quote]

So in other words, it's Rafa's fault, right?
[/quote]

Much of it.

We've got an average, ageing squad on high wages, and this isn't easy to rectify.
[/quote]

Ridiculus. Roy is inept. he cant keep living off the back of 'its Rafa's fault'. As much as Sky want him too. Awful result today. Stoke have been gash all season. Gasher than us even.

No excuses today.
[/quote]

I meant in terms of building for the future, not some one-off result against Stoke.

Jesus Christ.
[/quote]

One- off?? Like this result isnt the nor this season. Im not trying to have a go at any poster today by the way. Im just actually at the end of my wick with Roy today.

I feel like crying.
 
Rafa has fucked us up for the long-term, Roy is fucking us up in the short-term.

Roy has to go.
 
[quote author=23carragold link=topic=42120.msg1217796#msg1217796 date=1289678518]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217791#msg1217791 date=1289678373]
[quote author=23carragold link=topic=42120.msg1217788#msg1217788 date=1289678324]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217777#msg1217777 date=1289677915]
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=42120.msg1217767#msg1217767 date=1289677729]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217760#msg1217760 date=1289677570]
He'll be gone soon enough, but this squad has been fucked up by his predecessor and that's going to act as a great burden for any incoming manager.
[/quote]

So in other words, it's Rafa's fault, right?
[/quote]

Much of it.

We've got an average, ageing squad on high wages, and this isn't easy to rectify.
[/quote]

Ridiculus. Roy is inept. he cant keep living off the back of 'its Rafa's fault'. As much as Sky want him too. Awful result today. Stoke have been gash all season. Gasher than us even.

No excuses today.
[/quote]

I meant in terms of building for the future, not some one-off result against Stoke.

Jesus Christ.
[/quote]

One- off?? Like this result isnt the nor this season. Im not trying to have a go at any poster today by the way. Im just actually at the end of my wick with Roy today.

I feel like crying.
[/quote]

and by nor i obviously meant norm!
 
[quote author=23carragold link=topic=42120.msg1217796#msg1217796 date=1289678518]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217791#msg1217791 date=1289678373]
[quote author=23carragold link=topic=42120.msg1217788#msg1217788 date=1289678324]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217777#msg1217777 date=1289677915]
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=42120.msg1217767#msg1217767 date=1289677729]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217760#msg1217760 date=1289677570]
He'll be gone soon enough, but this squad has been fucked up by his predecessor and that's going to act as a great burden for any incoming manager.
[/quote]

So in other words, it's Rafa's fault, right?
[/quote]

Much of it.

We've got an average, ageing squad on high wages, and this isn't easy to rectify.
[/quote]

Ridiculus. Roy is inept. he cant keep living off the back of 'its Rafa's fault'. As much as Sky want him too. Awful result today. Stoke have been gash all season. Gasher than us even.

No excuses today.
[/quote]

I meant in terms of building for the future, not some one-off result against Stoke.

Jesus Christ.
[/quote]

One- off?? Like this result isnt the nor this season. Im not trying to have a go at any poster today by the way. Im just actually at the end of my wick with Roy today.

I feel like crying.
[/quote]

You're needlessly making a point against me. I agree with you.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217798#msg1217798 date=1289678571]
G&H have fucked us up for the long-term, Roy is fucking us up in the short-term.

Roy has to go.


[/quote]

😉
 
[quote author=mr_moo link=topic=42120.msg1217801#msg1217801 date=1289678690]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217798#msg1217798 date=1289678571]
G&H & Rafa have fucked us up for the long-term, Roy is fucking us up in the short-term.

Roy has to go.


[/quote]

😉
[/quote]
 
[quote author=mr_moo link=topic=42120.msg1217801#msg1217801 date=1289678690]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217798#msg1217798 date=1289678571]
G&H have fucked us up for the long-term, Roy is fucking us up in the short-term.

Roy has to go.


[/quote]

😉
[/quote]

^^^^^^^^
I think people genuinely believe this, and it's scary because it's without any factual basis.

Sooner or later you'll realise the damage that Rafa's transfer "policy" did to the club.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217800#msg1217800 date=1289678627]
[quote author=23carragold link=topic=42120.msg1217796#msg1217796 date=1289678518]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217791#msg1217791 date=1289678373]
[quote author=23carragold link=topic=42120.msg1217788#msg1217788 date=1289678324]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217777#msg1217777 date=1289677915]
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=42120.msg1217767#msg1217767 date=1289677729]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217760#msg1217760 date=1289677570]
He'll be gone soon enough, but this squad has been fucked up by his predecessor and that's going to act as a great burden for any incoming manager.
[/quote]

So in other words, it's Rafa's fault, right?
[/quote]

Much of it.

We've got an average, ageing squad on high wages, and this isn't easy to rectify.
[/quote]

Ridiculus. Roy is inept. he cant keep living off the back of 'its Rafa's fault'. As much as Sky want him too. Awful result today. Stoke have been gash all season. Gasher than us even.

No excuses today.
[/quote]

I meant in terms of building for the future, not some one-off result against Stoke.

Jesus Christ.
[/quote]

One- off?? Like this result isnt the nor this season. Im not trying to have a go at any poster today by the way. Im just actually at the end of my wick with Roy today.

I feel like crying.
[/quote]

You're needlessly making a point against me. I agree with you.
[/quote]

as i said before, not trying to have a go against anyone (i come in peace) just so fricken upset with the season. Roy has to go. *Fed Up*
 
I hate him. God, I just down right hate his guts.
Please leave.


Which other manager in the PL would play Meireles on the right wing, and hoof against Stoke???!!! When you have Gerrard and Torres in the side. Fuck off. AAAAARGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!
 
We were never this bad under Rafa. I wanted Rafa gone as much as anyone but if I'd known the alternative was Roy I would have clung to Rafa with every last breath in my body
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=42120.msg1217808#msg1217808 date=1289678861]
True, as much as I despite H&G, they authorised plenty of money which was then used on Aquilani, Keane, Johnson, etc.
[/quote]

They did, but rafa did (and potentially) get a decent return on those buys, and others. We don't really know about glen yet. I do think rafa had his faults, but not as bad as some make out. However, this has been discussed to death already.
 
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=42120.msg1217814#msg1217814 date=1289678974]
We were never this bad under Rafa. I wanted Rafa gone as much as anyone but if I'd known the alternative was Roy I would have clung to Rafa with every last breath in my body
[/quote]

I disagree. We were just as bad at times under Rafa. It's just that with Rafa you knew that there were highs that would come along with the lows. I don't have that kind of confidence in the highs right now.
 
I hate Roy and Rafa and Gillett and Hicks and Lee and Pellebastard and Moores and Parry and Konchesky and Babel.....fuck it The Players equally.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=42120.msg1217805#msg1217805 date=1289678796]
[quote author=mr_moo link=topic=42120.msg1217801#msg1217801 date=1289678690]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1217798#msg1217798 date=1289678571]
G&H have fucked us up for the long-term, Roy is fucking us up in the short-term.

Roy has to go.


[/quote]

😉
[/quote]

^^^^^^^^
I think people genuinely believe this, and it's scary because it's without any factual basis.

Sooner or later you'll realise the damage that Rafa's transfer "policy" did to the club.
[/quote]

This, but in addition they trully are all inept, H&G had no money of their own to invest, Rafa had a rotating door policy and bout cheap players with shit attitudes that only put in performances against big teams, and Roy added some truly shit icing and is managing to make it all smell worse than last year because of the shit tactics.

We need a new manager cause we play like a team that can't beat anyone so we usually don't baring attacking brilliance from the few that do have it.
We need new players because Rafa was a shit in the transfer market and didn't research his players enough and had no idea how to implement them.

Kopking, we may blame Rafa for what he did but everyone thinks Roy is a bad manager that needs to leave and I am sure that includes Squiggles

I think the quintessential example for how inept Roy is, is that Maxi a clearly right dominant player with little ability on the left foot and no pace to make up for that is played on the left after having a run for good form on the right. When Meireles who has played a number of games at LB, LCM and even LM because of his ability to use both his feet is played at RM (even though his best position is CM).
 
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