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For the second straight game, Milner has not stopped working at the end of 90 minutes. At the end of the game against the Thais, he was talking to Origi and it looked like he was giving him some instructions or pointers. He did that again, this time with Ibe, at the end of this game.
Pretty much Pesam. I think he has been unfairly slated at times, but I do think he lacks finesse, despite the occasionally good passing ability he demonstrates. It seems to me that if a couple of players put pressure on him, he seems to buckle under the pressure. I'd personally rather see someone a bit more composed alongside Skrtel.
And... Moreno didn't play again this game. Gomez looks like he could be playing Wisdom out of the club, and who knows, he could be playing Moreno out of a starting place too.
He needs to, it'd be great if we made Moreno work for a place. The worry is Gomez was reportedly going straight out on loan.
Yep. Excellent stuff and very good leadership both during and after the match.
Sterling's done fuck all.
Ibe = the reason we sold Sterling. Believe it!
I sincerely hope not. At 18 yrs old he's certainly not going to get a chance in the centre of our defence this season (especially with a number of other CBs to keep happy), however when looking at our options at LB he's shot to the top of my list, for that first half he was my MoM. I don't want to go overboard, especially without seeing him play consistently against much better opposition, but he looks the real deal (though at 10m for an 18 year old I suppose he should). This isn't just any 18 y.o though, having just played a season in the Championship (it doesn't get much tougher than that).
A good performance against a team at peak fitness, even though not skill. Difficult to rate since so many players got on the pitch and some only played short cameos so I've just rated them on what they did in the minutes they played
Excellent : Gomez, Milner (was his goal deflected as the commentator said ? I've seen it 5 times and still doubt it).
Very Good : Lallana (cracking goal), Ibe
Good : Clyne, Rossiter, Kent, Ings,
Average : Skrtel, Sakho, Origi, Toure, Henderson (though he had a couple of good runs into the box in the 2nd half he was very muted with less than average passing in the 1st).
Looking off the pace : Lucas, Lambert, Maguire,
Quiet - very little to do : Ming
Excellent : Gomez, Milner (was his goal deflected as the commentator said ? I've seen it 5 times and still doubt it).
Very Good : Lallana (cracking goal), Ibe
Good : Clyne, Rossiter, Kent, Ings,
Average : Skrtel, Sakho, Origi, Toure, Henderson (though he had a couple of good runs into the box in the 2nd half he was very muted with less than average passing in the 1st).
Looking off the pace : Lucas, Lambert, Maguire,
Quiet - very little to do : Ming
Moreno has been injured according to Rodgers
Milner initially came here thinking he would be a central midfielder, and the reality is that he's going to have to play wide left in a diamond, which must make him feel stupid inside. Then he sees Ibe tearing it up on the left, wonders to himself if this kid will quickly take his place in the team, and whether he'll end up back on the bench like he was at City. Back to square one.
I would not so easily believe that his instructions and pointers were entirely helpful.
Thoughts form behind the goal.
- it was fucking freezing.
- danny ings is no good. He just isn't. His movement is wrong, his touch isn't good enough, he's nowhere near the level.
- of clyne and milner, who look excellent. clyne's a right back, a proper fucking right back.
- lovren has quite simply the worst attitude of any footballer i've seen. Every cunt who didn't get a kick had to stay behind after and put in some hard running. and they all did bar him. Even Markovis was busting his arse, and there was Lovren dawdling around looking at his reflection in his boots.
- steviem knows so much about wine it scares me.
- i'm really cold.
- Origi's not a number 9. didn't know where to go. Might be useful from wide of a front 3, but he's not cutting it through the middle.
- Sakho's pish.
- it was fucking freezing.
- danny ings is no good. He just isn't. His movement is wrong, his touch isn't good enough, he's nowhere near the level.
- of clyne and milner, who look excellent. clyne's a right back, a proper fucking right back.
- lovren has quite simply the worst attitude of any footballer i've seen. Every cunt who didn't get a kick had to stay behind after and put in some hard running. and they all did bar him. Even Markovis was busting his arse, and there was Lovren dawdling around looking at his reflection in his boots.
- steviem knows so much about wine it scares me.
- i'm really cold.
- Origi's not a number 9. didn't know where to go. Might be useful from wide of a front 3, but he's not cutting it through the middle.
- Sakho's pish.
In other words - you obviously didn't watch the match.
Interesting, everyones been saying the complete opposite about Ings.
Game was pish-great crack with Mr O'Hare.
highlights
1. Lallanas goal
2. Ibes run and nearly goal.
3. Ryan going, "Wait till you see Ryan Kent's touch, he's a player..... and as he says it Kent lets a simple pass roll under his foot and out for a throw in.
4. Got tha Mad skillz bro
5. Being "asked outside" for standing up in the standing area.
Great day out with Mr O'Hare.
Can't wait for Adelaide
highlights
1. Lallanas goal
2. Ibes run and nearly goal.
3. Ryan going, "Wait till you see Ryan Kent's touch, he's a player..... and as he says it Kent lets a simple pass roll under his foot and out for a throw in.
4. Got tha Mad skillz bro
5. Being "asked outside" for standing up in the standing area.
Great day out with Mr O'Hare.
Can't wait for Adelaide
And every other player we have. And our manager. And Ian Ayre. And our transfer committee. And our owners. And everybody else even remotely associated with the club.
Same goes for Origi who has shown great movement.
The Sakho comment confirmed how drunk he is 😉
O'Hare was sober - I went easy on him [emoji3]
Besides its physically impossible to get drunk drinking XXXX Gold out of plastic cups - on the basis that it's undrinkable.
I had to practically wash myself after the game.
Me drinking that pish out of a plastic cup is the equivalent of a ryan turning up for a night out wearing board shorts, a wife beater and a cheap plastic Casio watch.
(Although he did look quite dapper in full kit - shin-pads and all)
Besides its physically impossible to get drunk drinking XXXX Gold out of plastic cups - on the basis that it's undrinkable.
I had to practically wash myself after the game.
Me drinking that pish out of a plastic cup is the equivalent of a ryan turning up for a night out wearing board shorts, a wife beater and a cheap plastic Casio watch.
(Although he did look quite dapper in full kit - shin-pads and all)
I remember Origi leading the line very well for Belgium at the World Cup. So I think any possible issues with movement can be attributed to either early-season lack of fitness or lack of understanding between himself and his new teammates.
BRISBANE Roar’s friendly with Liverpool was an entertaining night of football for A-League and Premier League fans.
John Aloisi’s side showed they’ll be worth watching once the domestic season comes around, but of more immediate concern is what the game showed us about Liverpool.
Here’s what we learnt.
STERLING WHO? IBE A REAL TALENT
Jordan Ibe is going to carry a lot of Liverpool fans’ hopes this coming campaign. After Raheem Sterling’s protracted and rancorous exit from Anfield to join Manchester City in a deal worth up to $100 million, Ibe has been seen as his natural successor. In possession of similar pace, good close control and a powerful right-foot shot, the teenager was recently praised by Liverpool legend Ian Rush as being at the same level as Sterling. He showed what a talent he is in the second half at Suncorp Stadium, continually skinning his marker and, on one occasion, charging 50 metres upfield before bringing out a reflex save from his toe-poked finish from close range. Liverpool’s failures last season were largely due to ineffective finishing and that’s one area in which Ibe will have to prove he’s up to the mark.
MILNER CAN FILL GERRARD’S SHOES
James Milner gave an assured performance in his preferred role in central midfield, demonstrating he can successfully succeed Steven Gerrard as a steadying presence in the heart of the pitch. Milner, who joined Liverpool on a free transfer from Manchester City after accepting less money in order to ensure more playing time, was heavily involved against the Roar, showing several nice touches plus an accomplished finish to score his first goal for Liverpool and win the game once an opportunity presented itself. Milner also took the lion’s share of the set-pieces, proving yet another area in which he’ll prove a more than adequate replacement for Gerrard. Rodgers was full of praise for the 29-year-old, claiming: “He’s an infectious personality with great quality. (He) can run, press, pass and create chances.”
CLYNE, GOMEZ TO SOLVE REDS’ PROBLEM POSITION?
The wingback position was a problem one for Liverpool last season, with midfielders Jordan Henderson, Raheem Sterling, Lazar Markovic and Emre Can all filling in at times, and Alberto Moreno and Javi Manquillo both struggling at times. That shouldn’t be the case this season, with the arrivals of Nathaniel Clyne and Joe Gomez. The duo produced brilliant performances down the flanks for the Reds, getting forward plenty of times but not at the expense of defensive solidarity. Rodgers dismissed talk Gomez – who can also play in the centre of defence – would go out on loan this season, and if his performance against the Roar is anything to go by, don’t be surprised to see Gomez get plenty of game time this season.
REDS FINALLY HAVE DEPTH UP FRONT
Liverpool’s goal woes were well publicised last season, with frontline strikers Daniel Sturridge, Rickie Lambert, Mario Balotelli and Fabio Borini combining for just eight league goals. Rodgers has moved swiftly to rectify this brining in Robert Firmino, Danny Ings and Divock Oirigi, with Aston Villa’s Christian Benteke expected to join them. It’s not just a more potent attack, but a more balanced one. Ings started wide right, with Origi through the middle and Lallana left, but the front three interchanged quite well, and that will only improve when you inject Philippe Coutinho into this Reds’ team. Rodgers’ real challenge will be juggling his frontmen, but it’s a squad game, and all will get their chance at some stage.
AUSTRALIA LOVES LIVERPOOL. BUT WE ALREADY KNEW THAT
Suncorp Stadium had just half the 100,000 people that packed out the MCG for Liverpool’s visit two years ago, but you wouldn’t have guessed it by the sound of their rendition of You’ll Never Walk Alone’. Rodgers was full of praise for the display, claiming after the match: “It amazes me every time we come here. To come here on a winter’s evening and get 50,000 people and to hear You’ll Never Walk Alone sung this far away from home is truly remarkable,” he said.
Brisbane has been painted red for a couple of days now, with Caxton Street being (temporarily) re-named Anfield Road. Even Big Queensland coach and lifelong Liverpool fan Mal Meninga got in on the act. As Liverpool hop on the plane on Saturday to be greeted by their fans in Adelaide, nights like Friday can’t hurt Australia’s chances of luring the planet’s best football teams here on a regular basis.
John Aloisi’s side showed they’ll be worth watching once the domestic season comes around, but of more immediate concern is what the game showed us about Liverpool.
Here’s what we learnt.
STERLING WHO? IBE A REAL TALENT
Jordan Ibe is going to carry a lot of Liverpool fans’ hopes this coming campaign. After Raheem Sterling’s protracted and rancorous exit from Anfield to join Manchester City in a deal worth up to $100 million, Ibe has been seen as his natural successor. In possession of similar pace, good close control and a powerful right-foot shot, the teenager was recently praised by Liverpool legend Ian Rush as being at the same level as Sterling. He showed what a talent he is in the second half at Suncorp Stadium, continually skinning his marker and, on one occasion, charging 50 metres upfield before bringing out a reflex save from his toe-poked finish from close range. Liverpool’s failures last season were largely due to ineffective finishing and that’s one area in which Ibe will have to prove he’s up to the mark.
MILNER CAN FILL GERRARD’S SHOES
James Milner gave an assured performance in his preferred role in central midfield, demonstrating he can successfully succeed Steven Gerrard as a steadying presence in the heart of the pitch. Milner, who joined Liverpool on a free transfer from Manchester City after accepting less money in order to ensure more playing time, was heavily involved against the Roar, showing several nice touches plus an accomplished finish to score his first goal for Liverpool and win the game once an opportunity presented itself. Milner also took the lion’s share of the set-pieces, proving yet another area in which he’ll prove a more than adequate replacement for Gerrard. Rodgers was full of praise for the 29-year-old, claiming: “He’s an infectious personality with great quality. (He) can run, press, pass and create chances.”
CLYNE, GOMEZ TO SOLVE REDS’ PROBLEM POSITION?
The wingback position was a problem one for Liverpool last season, with midfielders Jordan Henderson, Raheem Sterling, Lazar Markovic and Emre Can all filling in at times, and Alberto Moreno and Javi Manquillo both struggling at times. That shouldn’t be the case this season, with the arrivals of Nathaniel Clyne and Joe Gomez. The duo produced brilliant performances down the flanks for the Reds, getting forward plenty of times but not at the expense of defensive solidarity. Rodgers dismissed talk Gomez – who can also play in the centre of defence – would go out on loan this season, and if his performance against the Roar is anything to go by, don’t be surprised to see Gomez get plenty of game time this season.
REDS FINALLY HAVE DEPTH UP FRONT
Liverpool’s goal woes were well publicised last season, with frontline strikers Daniel Sturridge, Rickie Lambert, Mario Balotelli and Fabio Borini combining for just eight league goals. Rodgers has moved swiftly to rectify this brining in Robert Firmino, Danny Ings and Divock Oirigi, with Aston Villa’s Christian Benteke expected to join them. It’s not just a more potent attack, but a more balanced one. Ings started wide right, with Origi through the middle and Lallana left, but the front three interchanged quite well, and that will only improve when you inject Philippe Coutinho into this Reds’ team. Rodgers’ real challenge will be juggling his frontmen, but it’s a squad game, and all will get their chance at some stage.
AUSTRALIA LOVES LIVERPOOL. BUT WE ALREADY KNEW THAT
Suncorp Stadium had just half the 100,000 people that packed out the MCG for Liverpool’s visit two years ago, but you wouldn’t have guessed it by the sound of their rendition of You’ll Never Walk Alone’. Rodgers was full of praise for the display, claiming after the match: “It amazes me every time we come here. To come here on a winter’s evening and get 50,000 people and to hear You’ll Never Walk Alone sung this far away from home is truly remarkable,” he said.
Brisbane has been painted red for a couple of days now, with Caxton Street being (temporarily) re-named Anfield Road. Even Big Queensland coach and lifelong Liverpool fan Mal Meninga got in on the act. As Liverpool hop on the plane on Saturday to be greeted by their fans in Adelaide, nights like Friday can’t hurt Australia’s chances of luring the planet’s best football teams here on a regular basis.
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