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Boxing please

Groves taking the piss out of Eubank. Not letting him get close and if he does just ties him up.
 
Eubank Jr doesn't have the boxing skill to compete a world level. Groves is on a higher level.

I agree with Nas though, they both weren't great. Poor performance from both men.
 
Eubank Jr doesn't have the boxing skill to compete a world level. Groves is on a higher level.

I agree with Nas though, they both weren't great. Poor performance from both men.

Naz is right but Eubank won’t drop a weight. He’d have no chance vs ggg or billy joe Saunders. What’s the point?
 
Eubank Jr doesn't have the boxing skill to compete a world level. Groves is on a higher level.

I agree with Nas though, they both weren't great. Poor performance from both men.
Yeah, I agree with Nas too. Groves wasn't brilliant or anything like it. A really good fighter would have knocked Eubank out.
 
Naz is right but Eubank won’t drop a weight. He’d have no chance vs ggg or billy joe Saunders. What’s the point?
He has no chance against BJS. Ever. If you can box on the back foot, you'll beat EJ.

But against GGG he might stand a better chance.. and by chance, I mean punchers chance, because GGG comes forward a lot and can also be there to be hit (Kell Brook fight). EJ has got a good chin, has heart and is great BRAWLER. Just not a very good boxer. At all.

He needs a proper boxing trainer to teach him the basics if he's going to continue.
 
I'm gonna buck the trend here & say if Eubank has two more years experience going into that fight he would have rattled Groves.

Fair play to Groves & his coaches though, perfect tactics in predicting Eubank wouldn't use the jab & switch & would always try to get into the inside & he executed the frustration tactics of holding & pushing to the letter.

If Eubank has that extra experience though he would have taken advantage of that stance & used the jab & switch & control of the ring (he had the middle of the ring for the first five rounds) to take those early rounds so he could draw him out later on in the fight.

I don't think Eubank was shit, he was just niave & prone to wasting energy swinging wildly every time he got near the inside, that's what did him in.

Groves extra three years experience won him that fight imo.

Found it telling that his dad mentioned him not using the jab three times in that post fight interview.
 
He has no chance against BJS. Ever. If you can box on the back foot, you'll beat EJ.

But against GGG he might stand a better chance.. and by chance, I mean punchers chance, because GGG comes forward a lot and probably hits as hard as Groves. EJ has got a good chin, heart and is good FIGHTER. Just not a very good boxer. At all.

He needs a proper boxing trainer to teach him the basics if he's going to continue.
Which is ironic cos his dad was great, but if he had a fault (he did), he was too reserved a boxer & rarely became a fighter or expended too much energy if he felt he could win without it.

Perhaps its a case of a child refusing to follow their parents path & being determined to be different to them.
 
Which is ironic cos his dad was great, but if he had a fault (he did), he was too reserved a boxer & rarely became a fighter or expended too much energy if he felt he could win without it.

Perhaps its a case of a child refusing to follow their parents path & being determined to be different to them.

Yeah. It's very strange because Eubank Snr actually had 1 punch KO power and would have been suited to have a come forward style.

Whereas JNR doesn't have 1 punch power, and would be better suited to boxing and wearing down opponents.

Like you said, it's a probably a case of the son trying to step out of his father's shadow by adopting a completely different style.

But the way he was punching tonight (completely off balance and showing a lack of fundamentals), I agree with Nas, he should retire before he gets hurt. The only way he should continue is if he actually does have the fundamental skills, but through a lack of composure didn't show it. But from what i've seen of him in the past (where brawling won him all his fights save BJS), I really doubt his boxing skills.
 
I'm gonna buck the trend here & say if Eubank has two more years experience going into that fight he would have rattled Groves.

Fair play to Groves & his coaches though, perfect tactics in predicting Eubank wouldn't use the jab & switch & would always try to get into the inside & he executed the frustration tactics of holding & pushing to the letter.

If Eubank has that extra experience though he would have taken advantage of that stance & used the jab & switch & control of the ring (he had the middle of the ring for the first five rounds) to take those early rounds so he could draw him out later on in the fight.

I don't think Eubank was shit, he was just niave & prone to wasting energy swinging wildly every time he got near the inside, that's what did him in.

Groves extra three years experience won him that fight imo.

Found it telling that his dad mentioned him not using the jab three times in that post fight interview.

He might have rattled Groves with more experience, but in truth, he isn't the fighter he has been hyped to be. Groves is good, but he isn't a great champion by any stretch. Ibromurph is bang on- if you can box on the back foot you'll beat Eubank. And that's not enough for someone being touted as a world beater.
 
Yeah. It's very strange because Eubank Snr actually had 1 punch KO power and would have been suited to have a come forward style.

Whereas JNR doesn't have 1 punch power, and would be better suited to boxing and wearing down opponents.

Like you said, it's a probably a case of the son trying to step out of his father's shadow by adopting a completely different style.

But the way he was punching tonight (completely off balance and showing a lack of fundamentals), I agree with Nas, he should retire before he gets hurt. The only way he should continue is if he actually does have the fundamental skills, but through a lack of composure didn't show it. But from what i've seen of him in the past (where brawling won him all his fights save BJS), I really doubt his boxing skills.
See I don't doubt his boxing skills, cos he controlled the ring with ease the first few rounds this evening & has used jabs & combinations against other opponents to great effect.

Tonight he either didn't follow his coaches game plan, they didn't adapt their game plan to account for the style Groves used, he tried to prove a point when he did get inside cos it happened too rarely, or he's not a good enough boxer to be able to deal with an opponent who smothers you inside & can keep you at bay.

Imo he'll learn from that & if he can control his aggression & not waste punches or take a leaf out of his dad's book & switch to the jab then back off & control the centre of the ring for longer than five rounds he can win rounds on points & tore out his opponent.

For me a top quality coach could have him winning that fight in two years time.

Groves has three years of pro experience on eubank. That counts for a lot.
 
He has no chance against BJS. Ever. If you can box on the back foot, you'll beat EJ.

But against GGG he might stand a better chance.. and by chance, I mean punchers chance, because GGG comes forward a lot and can also be there to be hit (Kell Brook fight). EJ has got a good chin, has heart and is great BRAWLER. Just not a very good boxer. At all.

He needs a proper boxing trainer to teach him the basics if he's going to continue.

GGG has a granite chin and beat one of the best counter punchers around. His ring management is up there with the best. He’d take Eubank apart. Golovkin would be straight on him and not let junior settle into the fight.
 
He must be regretting not going full spastic in the eleventh instead of the twelfth, as Groves wouldn't have been able to continue. Got his tactics wrong and looked amateurish at times but could easily have won.

Anyway, fuck him he's a tit.
 
Groves bored the shit out of me to be honest. I was expecting a good fight and it was a load of turd.

Remember when his dad was scrapping? That division was something else. Him or Benn would have twatted both of these nobheads at the same time.
 
Callum Smith fighting this Dutch substitute now.

The lad is a Muay Thai kickboxing champion who's crossed into boxing.

Gotta have Smith favourites for the experience alone, never mind the extra reach & height Smith has.

The Dutch lad is very aggressive though & has landed a couple in the first round.
 
Smith got into the fight second round, ducked the swings coming his way repeatedly, kept him at bay with that jab & landed uppercuts almost at will.
 
3-0 smith who has a bloody nose. Possibly a low blow but the ref warned the Dutchman his belt was high.
 
This Dutch lad could be a decent boxer if he works on his footwork & learns how to hold a guard properly.

He can sure as hell punch aggressively & quickly at times & can take a real beating. That jab has come in hundreds of times & he's still standing & fighting back, which is more than a lot of fighters would be.
 
That Wilder v Ortiz fight was great. 10th round KO for Wilder after a great scrap which almost saw him get KOed in the 7th.

Ortiz is such a talent. If we weren't fat, old and pumping drugs all the time, he'd have been a star in the HW division.
 
That Wilder v Ortiz fight was great. 10th round KO for Wilder after a great scrap which almost saw him get KOed in the 7th.

Ortiz is such a talent. If we weren't fat, old and pumping drugs all the time, he'd have been a star in the HW division.
Wilder is fucking shit though, AJ would batter him.
 
Wilder is fucking shit though, AJ would batter him.
Not so sure.. Wilder can take and give a punch. You aren't 40-0 with 39 KOs and be shit. Ortiz was a challenge. Some of the defences before that questionable.

I'd say it was more 60-40 AJ for sure. However It wouldn't be a shock for me to see him lose.
 
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