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Ungrateful?! So what should we be like? Should we ignore Benitez's failings, want him as our manager and build the whole club around how he likes to work forever just because he won us a few trophies 5 years ago?
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A bit more respectful richey is what I think. No, not forever, but the man gave us the best experiences we've had in 20 odd years, won the CL, got to four semi finals, another final. gave us our closest run at the League, and did this while navigating a horrendous political situation.
So yes, more respect less sniping (not you...)
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You're always wrong about the highlighted bit...
CL winner 2005, final 2007 and semis in 2008.
Rafa had a very good record in Europe.
Most of us wanted the league first. He failed and should shut up now.
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Again, I'll never get the disrespect and ingratitude. It's a "Thanks for the CL now F-off" kind of mentality. Good luck. Sorry three CL semi-finals, not four. Big deal
Remember what it was like before? Ged Houllier got the Quarters one year against Bayern leverkusen (the giants!) and let it out in his pants - That was what it was like back then. We had no esteem, no winning mentality, we felt like also rans.
I won't forget that it was Rafa, that took us back to the top again. He wasn't perfect but only an ingrate would nit pick his record IMHO.
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Did he leave the club in 2007 or was it him that took his to being not good enough to qualify for even the UEFA Cup ? (bearing in mind Pompey would have had the spot were it not for UEFA licence problems)
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He had one bad year Rosco in how many? definitely had his faults but he built the club up from a very average side to one of the best in Europe. How can you forget this Rosco? How can you dismiss it?
That deserves respect from me, no matter what. we'll never agree on this, and I can understand that - but the snide remarks and constant disparagement just shows a complete lack of perspective on what was achieved - with shabby owners and a dire political situation to boot.
I'll go one more and say those who write off Rafa's achievements and slag him off are unrealistic people who expect everything, and piss on a manager when he only achieves "some" but not all things in the real world....
lechacal, of course your comments are disrespectful, and that's your right. But I wouldn't deride a Liverpool manager who brought me (and you) the happiest time as a Liverpool fan in twenty odd years. I wouldn't be that fickle.
I remember running home from work on Wends and Tuesdays, turning on the box, jumping for joy when we beat Chelsea in the CL, twice, when we went to Athens, and of course Istanbul. I remember my honeymoon, when I sneaked off to watch the second leg in 2005 vs Chelsea and the Garcia goal. What a great time.
People really should be ashamed of themselves for deriding the man who brought us these things. It's really ungrateful. Makes such people look like forgetful, spoiled brats.
I changed my avatar from Jari to Rafa, just because I was so ticked off at him being knocked so often. Sheesh, the man loves the club. I wish others were like him.
