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Blackpool Away. Actual match thread.

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[quote author=john link=topic=43561.msg1251286#msg1251286 date=1294869816]
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[quote author=john link=topic=43561.msg1251175#msg1251175 date=1294868940]
Gotta throw out a quick mention to Rafa Benitez......

Thanks for the worst Liverpool squad ever assembled! It sure is a mean feat!

I am livid!!!
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Shite. Souness squad was worse, so lets not go overboard with the hyperbole.
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Blah blah blah!! If you say so.
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Are you old enough to have seen the Souness years? I'll bet not.
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Sorry i didn't realise you knew me.. how's it going mate? My names John and i am 38 years old and if you've got nothing better to say to me -FUCK OFF!!
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Your memory is no better with age then.

Carter, Stewart, Kozma, Tanner, Piechnik etc etc were imo far, far worse than any of the shite out there. Blaming Benitez is smacks of desperation. Why, did Kenny play that team? He's in charge, he picked them, so as with Hodgson and Benitez the buck stops with him.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=43561.msg1251310#msg1251310 date=1294870091]
I was advocating that johnson play at right midfield, to play to his strengths. playing johnson at left back is pretty much the opposite of that, he still has to defend but now he has to check onto his right foot. blaming johnson is harsh in the fucking extreme.
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i agree neil, but even on his favoured foot he is a defensive liability and wastes possession quite a lot. I can't see how moving him up field will all of a sudden help him retain the ball
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=43561.msg1251316#msg1251316 date=1294870152]
I think we will go down because there's not one iota of fight in that squad.
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I felt a chill reading that.
 
I am sick and tired of Mark cunting Saggers on Talkshite telling Liverpool fans to "get real".
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=43561.msg1251162#msg1251162 date=1294868814]
No, Rosco, you tubby dipstick.

Sack Rafa. Yes. But don't sack him if you're going to replace him with a worse manager.

Said that lots of times.

Abnd also said that Budgie would be the worst LFC manager ever. He was. But *also* pointed out that Kenny (or indeed anyone) couldn't be expected to perform miracles with a shit squad.

So, I'm right, was right, and will continue to be right. Fuck off.
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Of course you are.

Let's not get into trading insults, it wouldn't end well.
 
I hold my hands up and say we have a poor squad, but why (FUCKING WHY?!!) can't we at least pick the people comfortable (or 'more' comfortable) in every position? look at the team that started for fucks sakes. that's like sitting down for soup and picking out knives and forks from a draw full of cutlery and then being surprised when you can't get any of the soup into your mouth.
 
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=43561.msg1251327#msg1251327 date=1294870243]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=43561.msg1251303#msg1251303 date=1294870031]
We desperately need a DM.

I hate Mascherano, sitting on the Barca bench like a clueless moron
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Indeed, DM has to be top priority. It was horribly obvious today.
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Absolutely true. Has been clear for ages.

And then decent, proper wide men
 
[quote author=Avvy link=topic=43561.msg1251331#msg1251331 date=1294870292]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=43561.msg1251316#msg1251316 date=1294870152]
I think we will go down because there's not one iota of fight in that squad.
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I felt a chill reading that.
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Yeah, snap.

I think we'll be okay. Today was hopefully a wake up call for everyone at the club; it wasn't just Roy that was the problem. We are in desperate need of better players, and cannot afford to wait till the summer or even the end of January for that matter.
 
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[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=43561.msg1251231#msg1251231 date=1294869385]
[quote author=john link=topic=43561.msg1251175#msg1251175 date=1294868940]
Gotta throw out a quick mention to Rafa Benitez......

Thanks for the worst Liverpool squad ever assembled! It sure is a mean feat!

I am livid!!!
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Shite. Souness squad was worse, so lets not go overboard with the hyperbole.
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Blah blah blah!! If you say so.
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Are you old enough to have seen the Souness years? I'll bet not.
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Sorry i didn't realise you knew me.. how's it going mate? My names John and i am 38 years old and if you've got nothing better to say to me -FUCK OFF!!
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If you were a bit older this would be a bit surreal.

He is right though; Souness had a worse squad.
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Debatable!!
[/quote]I agree with you. Taking Alonso, then Mascherano and Aquilani out of our midfield and filling the gaps with Poulsen and Lucas has destroyed us. As has selling Crouch, Keane, Bellamy etc and replacing them with N'gog.
Combined with selling Riise and replacing him with utter wank and letting Hyppia go and.......
So many fails.
Just FAIL FAIL FAIL.
Rafa and Roy have ruined our squad.
 
If he keeps playing Lucas/Poulsen while Gerrard issuspended, we'll be losing more points.
The Mascher/Lucas partnership cost us a CL spot last season.

If one from Lucas or Poulsen is still playing in the middle we'll struggle to win games.
Cole/Meireles then Gerrard/Meireles.

And Id like to hear the mentalists about our defense.
We badly miss Carra and his leadership. Since hes been injured, our defense looks fucking dreadful.
He was covering for the 2 cunts in the middle and made a couple a mistakes.
It was never as bad as it is now.

The Rafa's cautious virus is still in our staff's skin. We have to get rid of it asap or relegation will knock on our door.
 
[quote author=Sven link=topic=43561.msg1251335#msg1251335 date=1294870323]
Skrtel is poor. Worst cb we have had since Kvarme.
[/quote]Dont talk shite. Pellebastard and Palleta were far worse.
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=43561.msg1251330#msg1251330 date=1294870264]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=43561.msg1251310#msg1251310 date=1294870091]
I was advocating that johnson play at right midfield, to play to his strengths. playing johnson at left back is pretty much the opposite of that, he still has to defend but now he has to check onto his right foot. blaming johnson is harsh in the fucking extreme.
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i agree neil, but even on his favoured foot he is a defensive liability and wastes possession quite a lot. I can't see how moving him up field will all of a sudden help him retain the ball
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he has pace, can attack and he can cross. I'll take that for a fucking start.
 
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[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=43561.msg1251316#msg1251316 date=1294870152]
I think we will go down because there's not one iota of fight in that squad.
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I felt a chill reading that.
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Gerrard and Carragher aside, we've a squad full of fancy dans who think they're the dog's bollocks because they play for Liverpool. We don't need that at the moment. We need some nasty cunt in the middle of the park breaking bones. If we don't rectify that in January we will, in my opinion, be playing in The Championship next season.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=43561.msg1251269#msg1251269 date=1294869702]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=43561.msg1251264#msg1251264 date=1294869653]
Kenny must have decided before the game to use it as a tryout for some of those players. I can't believe he'd have picked that side otherwise, and I don't believe he's lost all his marbles overnight.
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That's what I thought (hoped).
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We need confidence and we need momentum. Trying out the shite players before the Derby is madness since they are unlikely to feature [please God] at the weekend so at best we'd be changing a winning side and at worst [which is what we now have] we'd be even more desperate for the confidence and momentum, and urgent points, we went looking for at the start.
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=43561.msg1251330#msg1251330 date=1294870264]

i agree neil, but even on his favoured foot he is a defensive liability and wastes possession quite a lot. I can't see how moving him up field will all of a sudden help him retain the ball
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He can pretty consistently beat defenders and put a decent cross in.

He's clearly a winger
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=43561.msg1251313#msg1251313 date=1294870131]
[quote author=themn link=topic=43561.msg1251306#msg1251306 date=1294870057]
I do and always will love The King but, I did suggest a slight toning down of the mass wanking.

It will get better.

We will NOT be relegated.

Fuck off, Sven.
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Yep.
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Who wouldv thought Leeds would get relegated? Newcastle? It's fucking possible as we have a fucking squad full of shot disinterested cunts! Unless we buy some players and start to improve the championship looks like where we are fucking heading! Poulsen needs to break a leg and fuck off! Kuyt played like shit as he has for the past year and abit, jova needs to fuck off back to Belgium! Shit squad selection but what do you expect when we have a shit squad!

Elia, Suarez, Coentrao, AOC and a new CB please!
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=43561.msg1251352#msg1251352 date=1294870501]
[quote author=Sven link=topic=43561.msg1251335#msg1251335 date=1294870323]
Skrtel is poor. Worst cb we have had since Kvarme.
[/quote]Dont talk shite. Pellebastard and Palleta were far worse.
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Sven, you are the weakest link. Good bye.
 
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[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=43561.msg1251231#msg1251231 date=1294869385]
[quote author=john link=topic=43561.msg1251175#msg1251175 date=1294868940]
Gotta throw out a quick mention to Rafa Benitez......

Thanks for the worst Liverpool squad ever assembled! It sure is a mean feat!

I am livid!!!
[/quote]

Shite. Souness squad was worse, so lets not go overboard with the hyperbole.
[/quote]

Blah blah blah!! If you say so.
[/quote]

Are you old enough to have seen the Souness years? I'll bet not.
[/quote]

Sorry i didn't realise you knew me.. how's it going mate? My names John and i am 38 years old and if you've got nothing better to say to me -FUCK OFF!!
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Your memory is no better with age then.

Carter, Stewart, Kozma, Tanner, Piechnik etc etc were imo far, far worse than any of the shite out there. Blaming Benitez is smacks of desperation. Why, did Kenny play that team? He's in charge, he picked them, so as with Hodgson and Benitez the buck stops with him.

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Different manager, Same players.

And as for the players above, they were indeed truely awful but this present bunch are just as awful if not worse in my opinion.
 
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[quote author=Fabio link=topic=43561.msg1251330#msg1251330 date=1294870264]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=43561.msg1251310#msg1251310 date=1294870091]
I was advocating that johnson play at right midfield, to play to his strengths. playing johnson at left back is pretty much the opposite of that, he still has to defend but now he has to check onto his right foot. blaming johnson is harsh in the fucking extreme.
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i agree neil, but even on his favoured foot he is a defensive liability and wastes possession quite a lot. I can't see how moving him up field will all of a sudden help him retain the ball
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he has pace, can attack and he can cross. I'll take that for a fucking start.


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I've not seen much of that 'pace' this season.
 
But, lets have a little bit of perspective though, I think we kept the ball better today than we have done away from home for most of the season, at times we played at a good tempo. Torres looked bright and lively up top which we haven't had for a while. We've got players to come back in, namely Carra and Gerrard.

And best of all, we're in a transfer window.

He made mistakes today, but I trust Kenny. I think he wanted to be fair to players, he gave the likes of Poulson and Jovanavic a chance, hopefully he's now seen they're crap and will look to offload them ASAP.
 
Our defence is shit without Carragher. Anyone on the 'Carrager should be dropped" Fuckwitwagon was clearly on a one-way trip to Getafuckingclueville. His influence is unquestionable.
 
[quote author=Sven link=topic=43561.msg1251335#msg1251335 date=1294870323]
Skrtel is poor. Worst cb we have had since Kvarme.
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Eh Pellegrino????
 
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[quote author=Fabio link=topic=43561.msg1251330#msg1251330 date=1294870264]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=43561.msg1251310#msg1251310 date=1294870091]
I was advocating that johnson play at right midfield, to play to his strengths. playing johnson at left back is pretty much the opposite of that, he still has to defend but now he has to check onto his right foot. blaming johnson is harsh in the fucking extreme.
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i agree neil, but even on his favoured foot he is a defensive liability and wastes possession quite a lot. I can't see how moving him up field will all of a sudden help him retain the ball
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he has pace, can attack and he can cross. I'll take that for a fucking start.


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I've not seen much of that 'pace' this season.
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He can post a 136 character Twitter message in 10 seconds.
 
*refuses to get into "glen can cross" debate*

He seems scared to take on a man this year. Whether thats tactics or not it needs to be sorted. I still think running from deep leaves him open and gives him space to run into. If he's marked out the game by a full back i think he will struggle
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=43561.msg1251352#msg1251352 date=1294870501]
[quote author=Sven link=topic=43561.msg1251335#msg1251335 date=1294870323]
Skrtel is poor. Worst cb we have had since Kvarme.
[/quote]Dont talk shite. Pellebastard and Palleta were far worse.
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Paletta only played like one match. And Pellegrini was bad but not bad as Skrtel.

Skrtel made several huge mistakes today. He needs to go.
 
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=43561.msg1251366#msg1251366 date=1294870676]
But, lets have a little bit of perspective though, I think we kept the ball better today than we have done away from home for most of the season, at times we played at a good tempo. Torres looked bright and lively up top which we haven't had for a while. We've got players to come back in, namely Carra and Gerrard.

And best of all, we're in a transfer window.

He made mistakes today, but I trust Kenny. I think he wanted to be fair to players, he gave the likes of Poulson and Jovanavic a chance, hopefully he's now seen they're crap and will look to offload them ASAP.
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Really? I thought we couldn't keep hold of it for toffee.
 
without trying to boil football down to something ridiculously simply, you have to wonder if every position on the picth were decided on a vote;

who do you want to start v blackpool at left back;
aurelio - vote here
konchesky - vote here
johnson - vote here
kelly - vote here

etc

if we decided the team selection I would bet anymore you end up with more balanced teams that would win more points over the course of the season why? [size=14pt]because fans would do the fucking OBVIOUS!!!!![/size]
 
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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=43561.msg1251352#msg1251352 date=1294870501]
[quote author=Sven link=topic=43561.msg1251335#msg1251335 date=1294870323]
Skrtel is poor. Worst cb we have had since Kvarme.
[/quote]Dont talk shite. Pellebastard and Palleta were far worse.
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Paletta only played like one match. And Pellegrini was bad but not bad as Skrtel.

Skrtel made several huge mistakes today. He needs to go.
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WHAT?!??!?!
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I think we might get relegated too. We're certainly not too good to go down.
 
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