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Has anyone actually said there's no evidence of fraud? It seems absurd to suggest that there would be no foul play with 150 million people voting. I think what most people are looking for is evidence of significant, widespread fraud; the kind which could legitimately affect the outcome of the election.

I'd be interested to see the veracity of the claims being made about Michigan, but everything else thus far seems to be fairly trivial, and the kind of thing you would expect to find examples of in an election of this size.

For the record, I have absolutely no allegiance to either candidate. They're both utterly shit and I couldn't really give a fuck which one ends up as president.

Yes. Just look at the history in this thread.
 
Yes. Just look at the history in this thread.

Most posts seem to be 'is there actual evidence' and the only thing remotely close is you saying 'they've submitted affidavits which must mean that there is evidence' but nothing that resembles credible evidence appears to have been shared. Unless you fancy pointing us in the direction.
 
They're a couple of examples of the affidavits you asked to be shared. Right there. Shared. A single click away. Then you say that nah fuck it, it's probably spam, and restate that no ethidence has been shared. Magnificent.
 
I had a look at those daffydavids and they look interesting and weird and if true sounds bad, so a quick google and the electoral people in those states have come out and said lol wot m8 you don't have a clue how this works, this is how it works, and even the most republicanny republican Karl Rove is like yeah this is mostly shit and won't get anywhere. If even he's saying it I wouldn't be getting my hopes up too much
 
I had a look at those daffydavids and they look interesting and weird and if true sounds bad, so a quick google and the electoral people in those states have come out and said lol wot m8 you don't have a clue how this works, this is how it works, and even the most republicanny republican Karl Rove is like yeah this is mostly shit and won't get anywhere. If even he's saying it I wouldn't be getting my hopes up too much

Magnificent
 
Most posts seem to be 'is there actual evidence' and the only thing remotely close is you saying 'they've submitted affidavits which must mean that there is evidence' but nothing that resembles credible evidence appears to have been shared. Unless you fancy pointing us in the direction.

No, affidavits are evidence.

There is also all the other irregularities.
 
I had a look at those daffydavids and they look interesting and weird and if true sounds bad, so a quick google and the electoral people in those states have come out and said lol wot m8 you don't have a clue how this works, this is how it works, and even the most republicanny republican Karl Rove is like yeah this is mostly shit and won't get anywhere. If even he's saying it I wouldn't be getting my hopes up too much

I'm not pinning my hopes on a handful of witnesses who witnessed some ballots being improperly processed. I'm pinning my hopes on it going to trial, and the things that will be revealed during the discovery phase.
 
For example, the QVF logs will have ballots marked on the 3rd being inputed on the 4th. The defendant will say, oh we had a backlog of a day. Really? On the 5th, you had ballots marked on the 3rd being inputted. And again on the 6th. Are you sure about that backlog? I have just one more question before I call airmen O'Malley and Rodriquez...
 
Got the lolz.

Here is a BBC live update re CV and the prevalence of CV19 amongst secondary school kids.

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There is a higher percentage of secondary school pupils testing positive for Covid-19 than any other age group, according to figures from the Office for National Statistics.
Based on a national survey, the ONS said an estimated 1.65% of Year 7 to Year 11 students tested positive on 6 November, compared to 1.05% for primary pupils.
It comes as the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) examined more than a thousand outbreaks of coronavirus that have occurred since schools reopened in September.
Reopening schools means children aged between 12 and 16 played a "significantly higher role" in spreading infections in households, the scientific advisors said.
But they said there was no clear evidence for or against the claim that infection rates among children were driven by them catching the virus in school.
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I'm not comparing the election to the virus in this sense but lol'd at the 'evidence' bit.
 
The least they can do is to teach kids the meaning of the word evidence whilst they're in school, so that we can avoid this surreal episode of 1984 being rebooted in four years, hopefully.
 
Out of curiosity there must be a legal challenge made every 4 years at the US elections?
A bunch of irregularities must happen across the country all the time
 
I had a look at those daffydavids and they look interesting and weird and if true sounds bad, so a quick google and the electoral people in those states have come out and said lol wot m8 you don't have a clue how this works, this is how it works, and even the most republicanny republican Karl Rove is like yeah this is mostly shit and won't get anywhere. If even he's saying it I wouldn't be getting my hopes up too much

LOL, how long before the conspiracy theorists give up then?
 
Out of curiosity there must be a legal challenge made every 4 years at the US elections?
A bunch of irregularities must happen across the country all the time

Not that I know of. Individual voters might issue court cases with the intention of winning financial settlements, and the police might prosecute fraudsters. But a concerted series of lawsuits like this is a first. It's expensive, and we've never had a president who could afford it before.
 
The electoral dude in one of the Detroit places accused of rigging it for Biden said Trump tripled his vote there this time and people are still moaning that it wasn't a realistic amount for him. That county that had an 85% turnout that they're all screaming about had even more in 2016. Lots of clutching.
 
It's not speculative. The 250 pages of Michigan affidavits McEnany was waving around screams "we're going to trial" to me, then you have no choice but to submit to Trumps fishing line because that's the rules for a trial.

https://electioncases.osu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Donald-J.-Trump-v-Benson-Doc1-2.pdf

First person, claim 21 seems pretty heavy

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Fox4 news.
2020 election was most secure in American history, cybersecurity officials say

The Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency said it has no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised, touting this year's election as the most secure in American history.

WASHINGTON (AP) — A coalition of federal and state officials said Thursday that they have no evidence that votes were compromised or altered in last week’s presidential election, rejecting unsubstantiated claims of widespread fraud advanced by President Donald Trump and many of his supporters.

The statement, by government and industry officials who coordinate election cybersecurity, trumpeted the Nov. 3 election as the most secure in American history. It amounted to the most direct repudiation to date of Trump’s efforts to undermine the integrity of the contest, and echoed repeated assertions by election experts and state officials over the last week that the election unfolded smoothly without broad irregularities.

“While we know there are many unfounded claims and opportunities for misinformation about the process of our elections, we can assure you we have the utmost confidence in the security and integrity of our elections, and you should too,” the statement said. “When you have questions, turn to elections officials as trusted voices as they administer elections.”
 
Personally I'd have left those ones out, when you hand a judge 250 pages, ask him to read it, and he sees you couldn't even be bothered to word process some of the statements, probably not a good look.
 
Fox4 news.
2020 election was most secure in American history, cybersecurity officials say

The Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency said it has no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised, touting this year's election as the most secure in American history.

WASHINGTON (AP) — A coalition of federal and state officials said Thursday that they have no evidence that votes were compromised or altered in last week’s presidential election, rejecting unsubstantiated claims of widespread fraud advanced by President Donald Trump and many of his supporters.

The statement, by government and industry officials who coordinate election cybersecurity, trumpeted the Nov. 3 election as the most secure in American history. It amounted to the most direct repudiation to date of Trump’s efforts to undermine the integrity of the contest, and echoed repeated assertions by election experts and state officials over the last week that the election unfolded smoothly without broad irregularities.

“While we know there are many unfounded claims and opportunities for misinformation about the process of our elections, we can assure you we have the utmost confidence in the security and integrity of our elections, and you should too,” the statement said. “When you have questions, turn to elections officials as trusted voices as they administer elections.”

Organisation who gets tax dollars, pays themselves obscene salaries to sit around and now and again issue reports to pretend they are providing value for money security services, is asked to comment upon the possibility their services are totally useless, and they say no everything is fine. That's that. Glad we cleared that up. End thread.
 
Very damning. 1 down, 150,000 to go to overturn the deficit in michigan. Keep clapping your hands dantes,keep clapping and believing.

They're not asking for the court to find and delete that one ballot from the count. The order they are asking for includes stuff like this:

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A. An order directing Secretary Benson and the Michigan Board of State Canvassers to not certify the election results until they have verified and confirmed that all ballots that were tabulated and included in the final reported election results were cast in compliance with the provisions of the Michigan Election Code as set forth herein.

B. An order prohibiting the Wayne County board of county canvassers and the board of state canvassers from certifying any vote tally that includes: (1) fraudulently or unlawfully cast ballots; (2) ballots tabulated using the Dominion tabulating equipment or software without the accuracy of individual tabulators having first been determined; (3) any ballots that were received after Election Day (November 3, 2020) where the postmark or date of receipt was altered to be an earlier date before Election Day; and (4) any ballots that were verified or counted when challengers were excluded from the room or denied a meaningful opportunity to observe the handling of the ballot and poll book as provided in MCL 168.733.
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Seems a perfectly reasonable request if there is nothing to hide, no corners were cut, no fake ballots showed up in a van, and the count is legit.
 
The Trump campaign have withdraw their lawsuits in Arizona because even if they win, it still wouldnt be enough to overturn Biden winning.

Or in other words, we have no case.
 
They have campaign debts, because they grossly mismanaged their significant cash advantage. Trump can't run anything.
 
"The development comes as Trump’s political opponents have sought to put public pressure on law firms"

Biden using the same tactics at home as he did in the Ukraine.
 
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