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George Clooney says it's time for Joe to step aside: "The Joe Biden I was with three weeks ago at the fundraiser was not the Joe... of 2010,” he writes. “He wasn’t even the Joe Biden of 2020. He was the same man we all witnessed at the debate.”

 
Even Nancy Pelosi's saying it now (pot, kettle and all).
He should have retired years ago. A lot of Obama fans said he was the perfect vice president, so perhaps he should have called it quits then.

In my opinion America is too much in the hands of the large corporates and lobbies, they need someone who can take some of that back. I've no idea if that's even possible anymore.
 
I'm watching the press conference live.
He's all over the place, it's almost incoherent at times.
 
He really has to go, if only to give people an actual choice of voting for someone who wasn't either barking mad or senile.
 
Biden has almost zero chance of winning against Trump. Why wouldn't they just gracefully swap him out. The more appearances and gaffes like this that he makes, the harder it will be.

4 years of Trump look to be very much on the cards.
 
Biden has almost zero chance of winning against Trump. Why wouldn't they just gracefully swap him out. The more appearances and gaffes like this that he makes, the harder it will be.

4 years of Trump look to be very much on the cards.
Who could they swap him with? I'm not sure Harris is that popular. It would have to be someone else.
 
Who could they swap him with? I'm not sure Harris is that popular. It would have to be someone else.

I thought Gavin Newsom would be their pick about 6-9 months ago. I wonder whether he will stand down before the end of his term, making Harris the president for a few months that would enhance her run at the job.

Tough one though. Painful as even a year ago polls were saying that the only Republican candidate that Biden would lose to was Trump, and conversely that the only Dem candidate (based on a selection given) that Trump would beat was Biden.. Yet here we are with Trump vs Biden very much on the cards.
 
Who could they swap him with? I'm not sure Harris is that popular. It would have to be someone else.

Harris has stayed (been kept?) well out of the limelight and there have been varying suggestions in parts of the US media about why that is. Some say that it's because Democrat bigwigs have seen at close quarters how overrated she was, but others hint at a scheme all along to replace Biden with her and suggest that she's been kept away from the limelight to enable that to go ahead in a trouble-free way when the time comes. Bet they never expected Biden to dig his heels in as he's apparently now doing.
 
What I don't understand is his family. If they gave a shit about him they'd drag him out the Whitehouse. Also self preservation. Trump will beat Biden and then come after them through the courts. Why not play the percentages and get someone far more likely to win in place. Like most stuff, none of it makes any sense to me.
 
I'm watching the press conference live.
He's all over the place, it's almost incoherent at times.

I watched it, he was fine. He did have a gaffe at the beginning referring to his VP Harris as “Vice President Trump,” but that was simple misspeaking. Substantively, he’s 100% there and his knowledge and understanding of foreign policy is far superior to any current Democreatic alternatives, let alone Trump.

I’ve been critical of Biden on certain issues but changing the nominees at this point would be suicidal and playing right into the hands of the fascists. I think Biden still wins in November.

Also Clooney is a cunt.
 
I watched it, he was fine. He did have a gaffe at the beginning referring to his VP Harris as “Vice President Trump,” but that was simple misspeaking. Substantively, he’s 100% there and his knowledge and understanding of foreign policy is far superior to any current Democreatic alternatives, let alone Trump.

I’ve been critical of Biden on certain issues but changing the nominees at this point would be suicidal and playing right into the hands of the fascists. I think Biden still wins in November.

Also Clooney is a cunt.
Disagree, he was rambling several times, going on and on until he lost his train of thought and tried to cover it by saying "anyway".
Sure, some parts were OK, that's the least I expected but he looked frail and weak.
The way he walked off stage too, he's just too old.
 
Disagree, he was rambling several times, going on and on until he lost his trail of thought and tried to cover it by saying "anyway".
Sure, some parts were OK, that's the least I expected but he looked frail and weak.
The way he walked off stage too, he's just too old.

He was never a great speaker even in his younger days, often mixing up names and making embarasaing gaffes (like introducing Obama as “Barack America” or asking a guy in a wheelchair to stand up), part of it is also he is a stutterer from childhood and there is a particular way he deals with getting a word stuck in his moutn. I can understand how listening to him can be jarring for foreigners, particularly if you’re relying on short clips and are not used to the way he speaks.

But there is a world of difference between that and actual cognitive decline - Alzheimer’s or Parkinsons or whatever else people imply that he has - all of his medical records are public, he is being constantly monitored and those things are simply not there. He does have a neurological issue with his legs (from an accident many years ago, I think), which is why he walks a certain way. Again, all of this doesn’t matter - FDR won the WWII from a wheelchair, the president job is understanding the situation fully and making key decisions and Biden has been an incredibly successful president in terms of passing legistlation despite the divisions in Congress. The stock market is at all-time high, inflation is down, job market is best it ever was. There is virtually nothing his critics can point to where his supposed deficiencies had a negative impact of his ability to perform his job.

So the whole narrative about him not being up to it is a distraction and replacing a candidate at this point would pretty much hand the election to Trump for a myriad reasons. The people you hear complaining are mostly rich white guys like Clooney who would be OK regardless of the outcome; the base of the Democratic
Party - African-American voters, organized labour etc - are solidly with Biden and more so than they would be with any alternative candidate. They will say Joe stumbles when he speaks, but his heart is in the right place and he gets things done. Again, it’s hard to appreciate the dynamic at play from the outside and I can understand how after someone like Obama you might think how come United States cannot get someone else just as charismatic to represent them on the world stage - but the truth is Biden has been a much more impactful Democratic president than Obama even if he is hard to listen to sometimes.
 
He was never a great speaker even in his younger days, often mixing up names and making embarasaing gaffes (like introducing Obama as “Barack America” or asking a guy in a wheelchair to stand up), part of it is also he is a stutterer from childhood and there is a particular way he deals with getting a word stuck in his moutn. I can understand how listening to him can be jarring for foreigners, particularly if you’re relying on short clips and are not used to the way he speaks.

But there is a world of difference between that and actual cognitive decline - Alzheimer’s or Parkinsons or whatever else people imply that he has - all of his medical records are public, he is being constantly monitored and those things are simply not there. He does have a neurological issue with his legs (from an accident many years ago, I think), which is why he walks a certain way. Again, all of this doesn’t matter - FDR won the WWII from a wheelchair, the president job is understanding the situation fully and making key decisions and Biden has been an incredibly successful president in terms of passing legistlation despite the divisions in Congress. Thre is nothing his critics can point to where his supposed deficiencies had a negative impact of his ability to perform his job.

So the whole narrative about him not being up to it is a distraction and replacing a candidate at this point would pretty much hand the election to Trump for a myriad reasons. The people you hear complaining are mostly rich white guys like Clooney who would be OK regardless of the outcome; the base of the Democratic
Party - African-American voters, organized labour etc - are solidly with Biden and more so than they would be with any alternative candidate. They will say Joe stumbles when he speaks, but his heart is in the right place and he gets things done. Again, it’s hard to appreciate the dynamic at play from the outside and I can understand how after someone like Obama you might think how come United States cannot get someone else just as charismatic to represent them on the world stage - but the truth is Biden has been a much more impactful president than Obama even if he is hard to listen to sometimes.

If this narrative was pushed by the Republicans I'd totally agree with you but people within the Dems actually want him to drop out. So, I wouldn't say that it's about how it sounds "jarring" to foreigners.
We're not blind, he's a man in decline. Sure he might have done a good job but he has to instil confidence that he can keep it up. He currently isn't.
 
He’s going to die soon. I’ve seen people with that look. He’s on his way out. Senility is the least of his problems.

Totally. He won't be around in 28. Even if he fluked it and got in he won't be well enough to do anything. It's madness.
 
What I don't understand is his family. If they gave a shit about him they'd drag him out the Whitehouse. Also self preservation. Trump will beat Biden and then come after them through the courts. Why not play the percentages and get someone far more likely to win in place. Like most stuff, none of it makes any sense to me.

His wife loves being First Lady and Hunter’s likely high.
 

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It's like everyone is in on this silly game of pretending the president isn't senile.
You'd hope they are going mental behind the scenes to ensure Dems have a candidate who isn't senile to stop Trump getting in.


That top one… hasn’t he just decided to turn round and look at the Vets behind him, rather than what I presume is the press in front of him.

That actually seems kind a decent thing to do.
 
Watching the Biden rally. He's actually looking remarkably good. Yes, he still looks old as fuck and slow but he's getting the message across.
He's reading from a prompter so, makes it a bit easier, I guess. Repeated some of the stuff he said yesterday verbatim as well but that's to be expected.

The strategy now seems to be to be attack Trump more aggressively. He's actually calling him out.
 
That top one… hasn’t he just decided to turn round and look at the Vets behind him, rather than what I presume is the press in front of him.

That actually seems kind a decent thing to do.


It's the way Bridgette turns, unsure while Macron then turns and nods.

If any of these were isolated incidents then fair enough I get it.

He's 81 years old, he's old AF and he looks lost 90% of the time.
 

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I challenge anyone to watch this rally and say that Biden is near death, not in control of his faculties or that his support is not fired up. I think the corporate media made a big mistake going in on him so early – this really fired up his base and, judging from this performance, the man himself.

If this narrative was pushed by the Republicans I'd totally agree with you but people within the Dems actually want him to drop out.
There are lots of wealthy Democrats and liberals in America who feel this is their last opportunity to replace Biden with someone who will be more "attuned to their concerns" (i.e. will not raise their taxes by quite as much). Remember that Biden is significantly to the left of Obama on most economic policies – so that naturally earned him a lot of enemies, even among the supposed "liberal elite."

They cannot say it directly, so instead they say Biden is just too old. But it's not difficult to tell apart someone who is genuinely concerned that Biden might not be in the best shape to beat Trump and those who use this chance to advance their agenda – most of the former already came around after Biden looked better in days following the debate and especially after the last 2 days. The ones who are doubling down are the rich bastards.
 
Democrats are handing Trump the presidency on a shiny platter, which will go down as one or the greatest policial fuck ups of all time. Not just because of what Trump will do, moreso of the sheer incompetence that means you come second to someone with his track record.

Man I hope I'm wrong.
 
Who cares, senile or nah , he's a bumbling mother fucking 81 year old! For that reason alone , he needs to do the honourable thing and retire to Florida or whatever

It's not HIS problem, nor fault, that there are no credible alternatives..
 
It's the way Bridgette turns, unsure while Macron then turns and nods.

If any of these were isolated incidents then fair enough I get it.

He's 81 years old, he's old AF and he looks lost 90% of the time.

Yeah, I’m not saying he isn’t old and likely half senile, but not everything he does is without merit or the action of a senile old man.

It’s crazy he’s running again - but even that’s not anywhere near the craziest thing in American politics.
 
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