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Big D vs Twitter

We should all just stop posting in it but its just too brightly burning a dumpster fire, and we're too stupid not to stare at it.

For my part, I have truly never encountered such genuine idiocy 'in person', and have been unable to resist... Each time I think I'm finished, the previous, hither-to unsurmountable levels of ignorance are 'bettered' by a whole new entry, and I'm off again. It's a terrible, vicious cycle.

I apologize. I'll try hard to stay away this time...
 
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Comparing trump's to biden's covid numbers is the same as walking into a room someone squirted shit all over the walls in and blaming the dude who's trying to wipe it off.

What if he was trying to wipe it off with more shit ?
 
I'm not Biden fan but you fucking alt right mongs where in exactly the wrong place at the wrong time to deal with this shit on any level, in the US, in Europe, in South America, you're all fucking dickheads.
 
I'm not Biden fan but you fucking alt right mongs where in exactly the wrong place at the wrong time to deal with this shit on any level, in the US, in Europe, in South America, you're all fucking dickheads.

Shut up libtard.
 
You do have form for misreading the advances of innocent females..

The plot thickens

He's 29 years old. Which means that time I used quantum mechanics to hand brendan's arse to him on koptalk, would have placed me at around 9 years old. I'm tempted to take that now that I think about it. It's not beyond the realms of possibility.
 


Lol whaddapie would get really pissed at me if she becomes president hahhaha you'd love to see it. Tax the rich awww bless these woke fools. I'm sure socialism will work out this time. This time it will be different. Yes. They have feelings this time, those all important feelings. Tax more with feeling.
 
Christ. I read the snippet, which stated that a murder happened and why it happened. Those are the only two bits of information I need to infer the things I am interested in. Ruban provided it. I don't need to read it again elsewhere. I don't need to read what the guys name is, his life story, the date it happened, his legal defence. You seem to think I should have wasted my time studying a murder for what reason? To make you happy? You're just talking shit because you know the two motives are mutually exclusive and can't bring yourself to admit your mistake.

They aren't "two motives" and they aren't mutually incompatible. You only construct them that way because you were too lazy to read a short news story and gain context. So you read one snippet, then another, sourced from the same place. In between you formed different conclusions with absolute certainty. You don't need to read a full story to leap wildly to cocksure, dumb conclusions, that's clear. I just watched your mind digest information in real time and it confirms that you don't have a very good critical apparatus and aren't intellectually curious. This whole discussion has taken far far longer than you simply reading the information that was available in the first place.
 
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Lol whaddapie would get really pissed at me if she becomes president hahhaha you'd love to see it. Tax the rich awww bless these woke fools. I'm sure socialism will work out this time. This time it will be different. Yes. They have feelings this time, those all important feelings. Tax more with feeling.



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They aren't "two motives" and they aren't mutually incompatible. You only construct them that way because you were too lazy to read a short news story and gain context. So you read one snippet, then another, sourced from the same place. In between you formed different conclusions with absolute certainty. You don't need to read a full story to leap wildly to cocksure, dumb conclusions, that's clear. I just watched your mind digest information in real time and it confirms that you don't have a very good critical apparatus and aren't intellectually curious. This whole discussion has taken far far longer than you simply reading the information that was available in the first place.

They are mutually incompatible motives, I never said they were mutually incompatible facts. I assume you can't put them forward as two motives anymore, so you're just going to pretend I'm saying both facts can't be true, because why not. You really are embarrassing yourself you know.
 
They are mutually incompatible motives, I never said they were mutually incompatible facts. I assume you can't put them forward as two motives anymore, so you're just going to pretend I'm saying both facts can't be true, because why not. You really are embarrassing yourself you know.

They are mutually compatible motives.

He thought that pro choice jewish satan worshippers were performing abortion rituals at a park. If we were playing family feud with loony trump supporter, and the prompt was "DEMOCRATS ARE", they'd say "lets see pro choice!," DING DING DING. Let's see JEWISSSSHHH, DING DING DING. "OK. Now for all the marbles, can we get a SATAN WORSHIPPER" he'd fucking hit three right off the bat there. He's fucking crushing it.

When politics becomes sectarian, this is what happens. When insane people digest this horrific type of politics, this is what can happen.

The email stated he demanded people “stop all murder of babies” and referred to former President Donald Trump and President Joe Biden. Alvarez also reportedly wrote that he specifically targeted the Kauffmanns because they voted for Biden and had a Biden flag in front of their house, as well as "a doll of Trump hanging." At the time, the home also reportedly had pro-Democrat posters and LGBTQ flags displayed.

It's fatuous to not see how politics and religion have made its way into his delusion.

This is such a simple story, and yet you can't understand it because of your initial miscomprehension and laziness. Now you just can't admit you are wrong... you never can admit that.
 
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They are mutually compatible motives.

He thought that pro choice jewish satan worshippers were performing abortion rituals at a park. If we were playing family feud with loony trump supporter, and the prompt was "DEMOCRATS ARE", they'd say "lets see pro choice!," DING DING DING. Let's see JEWISSSSHHH, DING DING DING. "OK. Now for all the marbles, can we get a SATAN WORSHIPPER" he'd fucking hit three right off the bat there. He's fucking crushing it.

When politics becomes sectarian, this is what happens. When insane people digest this horrific type of politics, this is what can happen.

The email stated he demanded people “stop all murder of babies” and referred to former President Donald Trump and President Joe Biden. Alvarez also reportedly wrote that he specifically targeted the Kauffmanns because they voted for Biden and had a Biden flag in front of their house, as well as "a doll of Trump hanging." At the time, the home also reportedly had pro-Democrat posters and LGBTQ flags displayed.

It's fatuous to not see how politics and religion have made its way into his delusion.

This is such a simple story, and yet you can't understand it because of your initial miscomprehension and laziness. Now you just can't admit you are wrong... you never can admit that.

I told you I have no interest in the story. Your bringing it up is to laughably conflate his life story with the murder motive.

If he killed them because they voted for biden, as in he was aggrieved by them putting an X on the ballot for biden, that is a motive. That was the motive given by the first snippet. His life story in this case would be a massive trump supporter, angered by the election, resentful of the changes brought about by Biden, he snaps, goes out to get revenge upon a biden voter. I would not care about this story. It's a given, or something similar would be a given, it's irrelevant to me. I made no reference to his life story in my argument. I referred specifically to the motive of killing someone because they voted for biden.

If he killed them because they were satan worshippers, then his motive is not the same, it is entirely different and to do with his mental illness. I don't give a shit about his mental illness or his life, he believes in satan, he thinks democrats abort babies, he thinks biden voters are jews who worship satan, who knows, who cares. You are imagining what his story is, shoe-horning politics into it, then pretending because the first motive has biden and the second life story has biden, that they're compatible. They're not. Like I told you, the two motives are mutually exclusive.

Motive 1 and motive 2 are different. Mutually exclusive. Motive 1 is a man in possession of his faculties killing someone for things they actually did in the real world, which he thinks warrant death. Motive 2 is a man who is delusional. If you took that man and proved to him in a way he could accept that there is no such thing as satan, then his delusion would be removed and he wouldn't shoot them. Just because you have decided to assume his life story contains politics and biden, doesn't turn motive 2 into motive 1, nor does it mean motive 1 and motive 2 are equivalent or compatible. I'm sure you know this, you're just bleating on about his life history to deflect from what a motive is, and conflating that with his general life motivations and thoughts and feelings, as if I give a shit about his feelings.
 





Aaaahhahahahaha more of this biden is what we need. He may possibly have come close to getting my respect briefly, very briefly, a few milliseconds, but it's progress.
 


And another contract. God bless the United Sates of America's military, what would the world do without them. All these famished years they've had to endure, under a president who disgracefully refused to start a new war. Well that's all in the past. The good times are back baby!
 
I told you I have no interest in the story. Your bringing it up is to laughably conflate his life story with the murder motive.

If he killed them because they voted for biden, as in he was aggrieved by them putting an X on the ballot for biden, that is a motive. That was the motive given by the first snippet. His life story in this case would be a massive trump supporter, angered by the election, resentful of the changes brought about by Biden, he snaps, goes out to get revenge upon a biden voter. I would not care about this story. It's a given, or something similar would be a given, it's irrelevant to me. I made no reference to his life story in my argument. I referred specifically to the motive of killing someone because they voted for biden.

If he killed them because they were satan worshippers, then his motive is not the same, it is entirely different and to do with his mental illness. I don't give a shit about his mental illness or his life, he believes in satan, he thinks democrats abort babies, he thinks biden voters are jews who worship satan, who knows, who cares. You are imagining what his story is, shoe-horning politics into it, then pretending because the first motive has biden and the second life story has biden, that they're compatible. They're not. Like I told you, the two motives are mutually exclusive.

Motive 1 and motive 2 are different. Mutually exclusive. Motive 1 is a man in possession of his faculties killing someone for things they actually did in the real world, which he thinks warrant death. Motive 2 is a man who is delusional. If you took that man and proved to him in a way he could accept that there is no such thing as satan, then his delusion would be removed and he wouldn't shoot them. Just because you have decided to assume his life story contains politics and biden, doesn't turn motive 2 into motive 1, nor does it mean motive 1 and motive 2 are equivalent or compatible. I'm sure you know this, you're just bleating on about his life history to deflect from what a motive is, and conflating that with his general life motivations and thoughts and feelings, as if I give a shit about his feelings.

Hahaha. I am very much enjoying how much creaky bullshit you'll build around the fact that you glanced half of a picture, then another half of it, because you were lazy. How long will you keep going?


Imagine, your dumb account of motive 1. You describe someone who is "in posession of his faculties" but who decides to murder a total stranger. Why? Because they were supporting Biden, in a state that didn't get Biden elected. Yeah, they sound all together. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that this man might be slightly deranged.

Wait?! This murderer is deranged!? This comes as a massive surprise and changes everything! Then clearly politics must have nothing to do with it. What's that? He said politics had something to do with it. We can't listen to him, the man is unhinged! He's not like those sensible murderers I imagine I'd be! I like my pointless politically-motivated murders of strangers to only be done by clear-eyed rational people.
 
Well, then use whatever other word you like to define the difference between the two types of murderer. Knock yourself out. If you don't like "possession of faculties", perhaps try "attached to reality", or maybe "intelligent with uncontrolled rage issues". I couldn't care less. You're just picking up on that, inventing a bunch of rambling crap that I didn't say or mean, in order to kid yourself that you're still right. Motive 1 and motive 2 are mutually exclusive.
 
Well, then use whatever other word you like to define the difference between the two types of murderer. Knock yourself out. If you don't like "possession of faculties", perhaps try "attached to reality", or maybe "intelligent with uncontrolled rage issues". I couldn't care less. You're just picking up on that, inventing a bunch of rambling crap that I didn't say or mean, in order to kid yourself that you're still right. Motive 1 and motive 2 are mutually exclusive.

Ok, I'm going to try again then.

Imagine, your dumb account of motive 1. You describe someone who is "ATTACHED TO REALITY" but who decides to murder a total stranger. Why? Because they were supporting Biden, in a state that didn't get Biden elected. Yeah, they sound all together. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that this man might be slightly deranged.
 
Ok, I'm going to try again then.

Imagine, your dumb account of motive 1. You describe someone who is "ATTACHED TO REALITY" but who decides to murder a total stranger. Why? Because they were supporting Biden, in a state that didn't get Biden elected. Yeah, they sound all together. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that this man might be slightly deranged.

There really is someone called biden, there really was an election, the victim really did vote for him, there really is someone called trump, he really did want him to win instead. For motive 1, everything motivating him is attached to reality. You obviously think of "detached from reality" in some other colloquial sense as in he's a nutcase, like no shit sherlock he shot another person, of course he's not normal. Hence come up with another phrase you like better, to distinguish his motive being grounded in reality, and the second motive involving satan being grounded in mental illness.
 
There really is someone called biden, there really was an election, the victim really did vote for him, there really is someone called trump, he really did want him to win instead. For motive 1, everything motivating him is attached to reality. You obviously think of "detached from reality" in some other colloquial sense as in he's a nutcase, like no shit sherlock he shot another person, of course he's not normal. Hence come up with another phrase you like better, to distinguish his motive being grounded in reality, and the second motive involving satan being grounded in mental illness.


Yes, no shit sherlock indeed.


No one posited that his motivation for this was political in the way you have described in "motive 1." YOU are the originator of this patently ludicrous dichotomy, emerging due to you being unwilling to read something in its entirety, and instead misinterpreting one thing, then wildly swinging to a misinterpretation of another thing based on what was arbitrarily posted, in random order on a football forum. Neither thing claimed whole explanatory function, and if you felt it did, the solution would be to explore the matter and render judgment with more information. We're now continuing, over many hours, to explore the gulf between your two dumb accounts of something.

I'm enjoying it for some reason, because you have to keep tying yourself in knots.

He shared a political reality with millions in the sectarian US. Millions of people would agree with the statement that Democrats worship satan. Millions would agree with the idea that they want to kill babies. Who do you think the fringe of Christian Right are, actually? You think they live in a world grounded in some sort of rational, secular reality? His opinions are on the extreme side of existing discourse. The difference is he believed enough to do something about it.

That's exactly why those extremist discourses are dangerous, and most secular countries try to to extirpate them through adequate education.

That's all besides the point though. It's as though you don't think that a political discourse can include a religious one. You're not exactly an astute observer of the world, if thats the case. He can't be politically motivated, because he has too extreme an opinion of his opponents? Do you know how many times I've heard the phrase "baby killers" in the realm of US politics?

Are you not aware of the rich history of "satanic panic" that runs through this country, throughout history? You don't have a fucking clue about the US at all. Its much, much odder than you think.
 
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A man has been charged with murdering a woman and shooting her husband because they voted for President Joe Biden
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This, is what was posted by Ruban. I took it at face value and responded. Then it was corrected five minutes later by Woland, and I corrected my response. I have not a clue what you're blathering on about since. The above sentance is straight forward... "because they voted for biden". You think that means they were shot because of some wild back story to do with american history, or that I should have looked into that, before responding. Hahaha get the fuck out of here.

I corrected my response after five minutes. Wow. I lost five minutes in which I thought the wrong thing. How will I ever sleep at night. The reason I thought the wrong thing is because of what Ruban typed, up there, in plain english. No matter what you want to blather on about, the above quote is Motive 1, there is no other way to construe it, unless you're a retard who can't read. If you're that apoplectic about it, have a go at Ruban, But you're not. It's nothing to do with that. You just feel like an idiot for being wrong about it being mutually compatible, that's all we're arguing about. You can go on about all your american history stuff, it's irrelevant. Thanks for the lesson I guess.
 
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