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Slightly off our topic of fit politicians and right wing religious types taking it up the Khyber.

 
All in gang bang with Angel Merkel, Nicola Sturgeon, Arlene Foster, Anne Widdecombe, Theresa May and Nancy Pelosi.

There.... have that imprinted in your mind for the rest of the day.

Bluebell probably has a stiffy... Dantes dreaming of torture porn in his mum’s basement....
 
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Trump tries to take credit for vaccine:

Trump Takes Credit For Vaccine Created By Others, Including Immigrants

Dec 1, 2020,
Leadership Strategy
I write about globalization, business, technology and immigration.

Moderna To Request Emergency Authorization For Its Vaccine After Positive Trial Results
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Donald Trump did not invent or develop the vaccines to combat Covid-19, despite his claim he should receive the credit. Ironically, immigrants played the crucial role in developing the vaccines, a group Trump as president has vilified. It’s fair to say if Trump administration immigration policies had been in place years earlier, including policies on international students, employment-based immigrants and H-1B and L-1 visa holders, the individuals instrumental in making the Covid-19 vaccines a reality would never have lived or worked in America.

After the recent election, Trump alleged that Pfizer withheld the results of the vaccine trials to hurt him politically, even though the pharmaceutical company did not receive the results of the trials until November 8, five days after Election Day (November 3). The following week, Moderna received the results of its vaccine trials. Both trials showed “vaccine efficacy” (effectiveness) of over 90%. The companies await emergency authorization from the Food and Drug Administration to begin vaccine distribution.

On Thanksgiving, after alleging fraud in the general election, Trump took credit for the vaccines. “Trump also glancingly addressed the coronavirus pandemic, which has killed at least 262,000 people in the United States, though mainly to brag,” reported Josh Dawsey of the Washington Post. In the Oval Office, Trump said, “The vaccines – and by the way, don’t let Joe Biden take credit for the vaccine. . . . Don’t let him take credit for the vaccines, because the vaccines were me.” (Emphasis added.)

The evidence shows Donald Trump had no role in creating the vaccines to fight Covid-19. There is nothing in the record that warrants him taking “credit” for the vaccines. A review of events shows immigrants and immigrant-led companies created the vaccines.

In January 2020, Moderna’s French-born CEO Stéphane Bancel, who came to the U.S. as an international student and later immigrated to America, led the company to design a Covid-19 vaccine in two days. On February 24, 2020, the company announced the release of “the first batch of mRNA-1273, the company’s vaccine against the novel coronavirus, for human use.” Vials were shipped to the National Institutes of Health (NIH) for a Phase 1 study.

To put the dates in perspective: It was not until May 15, 2020, months after the start of the Phase 1 study and the original design of the vaccine by Moderna, that the Trump administration announced Operation Warp Speed to help with vaccines. The government program, whose chief adviser was Moncef Slaoui, a Moroccan-born immigrant, assisted Moderna in logistics, including facilitating the shipping of an air handling unit and a specialized pump for the company.

While Operation Warp Speed helped Moderna in overcoming bottlenecks and is considered one of the few bright spots in the administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, it is difficult to see how Donald Trump can use this to claim credit for the vaccine. “The president credits himself with vaccine development,” according to the New York Times Maggie Haberman. “Moderna timeline shows it began working on a vaccine while the president was still denying the virus was spreading in the U.S.”

Stéphane Bancel foreshadowed his company’s capability to use messenger RNA (mRNA) in 2015: “Instead of making protein medicines in factories very far away, what we are trying to do is to inject you with messenger RNA so that your own body will make the protein.” In an interview in 2016, Moderna chairman and cofounder Noubar Afeyan explained to me the promise of messenger RNA by comparing it to software that can be programmed to perform a specific task.

Noubar Afeyan and Stéphane Bancel are part of a Moderna team that would not exist without immigration. Afeyan was born to Armenian parents in Lebanon and immigrated with his family in his early teens to Canada. After earning a Ph.D. in biochemical engineering at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), he immigrated to America. Afeyan has helped found approximately 40 companies, primarily through VentureLabs and Flagship Pioneering.

“The company is a fascinating case study in American innovation and provides a roadmap for policymakers to support U.S. leadership in scientific and technological advancement,” according to Jeff Farrah, general counsel of the National Venture Capital Association. “Moderna might seem like a one-off success story. The reality, however, is that this is just the type of new company formation that venture capital backs to the benefit of our country.” (A startup visa for immigrants could generate more such companies.)

Noubar Afeyan’s cofounder, Derrick Rossi, was born in Canada and gained H-1B status in the United States. Moderna’s Chief Medical Officer Tal Zaks, in charge of clinical development at the company, came in on an employment visa from Israel. Chief Digital and Operational Excellence Officer Marcello Damiani immigrated from France, and Moderna’s Chief Technical Operations and Quality Officer Juan Andres immigrated from Spain.

An immigrant also led to the underlying research that helped make messenger RNA possible for vaccine use. “It is a story that began three decades ago, with a little-known scientist who refused to quit,” writes Damian Garde of STAT. “Before messenger RNA was a multibillion-dollar idea, it was a scientific backwater. And for the Hungarian-born scientist behind a key mRNA discovery, it was a career dead-end. Katalin Karikó spent the 1990s collecting rejections. Her work, attempting to harness the power of mRNA to fight disease, was too far-fetched for government grants, corporate funding and even support from her own colleagues.”

After a decade of research at two U.S. universities, including with Drew Weissman, her “longtime collaborator at Penn,” Karikó solved the problem plaguing mRNA, namely that the body fought the new chemical after an injection. “Karikó and Weissman [created] . . . a hybrid mRNA that could sneak its way into cells without alerting the body’s defenses,” writes Garde. “And even though the studies by Karikó and Weissman went unnoticed by some, they caught the attention of two key scientists – one in the United States, another abroad – who would later help found Moderna [Rossi] and Pfizer’s future partner, BioNTech.”

Today, Karikó, who lives and works in America, is a senior vice president at German-based BioNTech, the company that made headlines when it developed an mRNA vaccine in partnership with Pfizer to fight Covid-19. While Moderna accepted government funding to assist with manufacturing the vaccine, Pfizer did not take federal money through Operation Warp Speed. Like Moderna, Pfizer has a contract with the U.S. government to supply vaccine.

Dr. Ugur Sahin founded BioNTech with his wife, Dr. Özlem Türeci. Dr. Sahin immigrated to Germany from Turkey as a child, and Dr. Türeci is the child of Turkish parents who became immigrants in Germany. BioNTech teamed up with a much larger company, Pfizer, based in New York, whose chief executive Albert Bourla immigrated to America from Greece. Bourla decided to front “BioNTech’s development costs and manage the clinical trials, manufacturing and distribution.”

“The pair said in recent interviews that they had bonded over their shared backgrounds as scientists and immigrants,” reported the New York Times. “We realized that he is from Greece, and that I’m from Turkey,” said Dr. Sahin. “It was very personal from the very beginning.”

A German member of Parliament, Johannes Vogel, wrote on Twitter “there would be no #BioNTech of Germany with Özlem Türeci & Ugur Sahin at the top” if the anti-immigrant Alternative for Germany party had its policies in place. “If it were up to critics of capitalism and globalization,” he tweeted, “there would be no cooperation with Pfizer. But that makes us strong: immigration country, market economy & open society!”

In January, Moderna’s Stéphane Bancel contacted the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, working with Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, and Dr. John R. Mascola, the head of the Vaccine Research Center at NIH., and the deputy director, Dr. Barney Graham. “Dr. Graham said that after China released the genetic sequence of the new virus, the vaccine research center zeroed in on the gene for the virus’s spike protein and sent the data to Moderna in a Microsoft Word file,” according to the New York Times. “Moderna’s scientists had independently identified the same gene. Mr. Bancel said Moderna then plugged that data into its computers and came up with the design for an mRNA vaccine. The entire process took two days.”

In November, while at home in Boston, Bancel listened to the results of the trial. Ninety of the 95 infections were in the placebo group, and only five were in the vaccine group. “Then the outside panel broke down the cases by severity of illness, a critical measure of the vaccine’s potency,” reported the New York Times. “Eleven volunteers had developed severe illness, the voice said. Then came a pause that Mr. Bancel said ‘felt like forever,’ before the final word: Every one of them had gotten the placebo. He ducked out into the hallway to tell his wife. His 18-year old daughter raced down from the second floor. His 16-year-old flew up the basement stairs. ‘The four of us were crying.’”

During his four years as president, Donald Trump issued proclamations that banned nearly all employment-based immigrants, H-1B and L-1 visa holders from entering the United States. His administration dramatically increased denials of skilled work visas, introduced new restrictions on international students, proposed eliminating a path for foreign-born entrepreneurs and issued three regulations on H-1B visas that companies say would make it virtually impossible for many existing employees and foreign-born graduate students to work in America.

An objective review of the record shows immigrants and others, not Donald Trump, created the vaccines destined to save the lives of many Americans.
 
Hahahaha holy fucking christ, well you wanted retarded news reporting like that, and now yous have it. You love to see it.
 
Helps if people follow the news apart from following just retarded far right nuts on twitter.
Let me help...
He he tried to reiterate taking credit yesterday:
“I hope everybody remembers when they're getting the COVID-19 (often referred to as the China Virus) Vaccine, that if I wasn't President, you wouldn't be getting that beautiful 'shot' for five years, at best, and probably wouldn't be getting it at all," Mr Trump said.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-virus-vaccine-credit-statement-b1815553.html

Enjoy
 
He's right of course, but don't let facts get in the way of your feelings. Biden would have dithered around waiting for researchers to do their work which I know how fucking long that takes. Trump didn't wait, he got all the stake holders on the job before the vaccine was anywhere near to developed, because he paid attention the day they taught him project management, or gantt charts was the term in his day. All of that whilst being fact checked by the laughably wrong fake news...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...e-could-come-year-trump-says-experts-n1207411

That's why the vaccine was ready to stick into your arm the moment the research was done. Although Biden is still having to get his head around how to inject people in their arms, because that is such a complex task to arrange.
 
Why do you care so much about that?
Surely the wall was supposed to stop that.

I wouldn't say I care. If the news regularly plastered wall to wall coverage of the malnourished terrified kids all day on the screen, then those images would make me care about the kids. But we don't have that, so it's difficult to care, which is the point I suppose.

What I do care about is all the people crossing the border, are all future democrat voters. When Biden is done obliterating everything good about the country, and the people there realise what a pathetic mistake he was, I will laugh my arse off to the moon and back when they simultaneously realise they are stuck with the democrat marxists in perpetuity due to the vote/population engineering occurring at the border right now. Serves them all right.
 
The smart people will have left, as I keep telling Farky to do but he won't listen, and the woke fools left behind will pay their wealth taxes like good little sheep so as to sustain the lifestyles of the voters and the politicians. And there's absolutely nothing they'll be able to do about it. You'll love to see it.
 
Blind love for Trump is impressive but retarded.
He lost, pick a new hero, may I suggest Lawrence Fox and move on...
 
He's right of course, but don't let facts get in the way of your feelings. Biden would have dithered around waiting for researchers to do their work which I know how fucking long that takes. Trump didn't wait, he got all the stake holders on the job before the vaccine was anywhere near to developed, because he paid attention the day they taught him project management, or gantt charts was the term in his day. All of that whilst being fact checked by the laughably wrong fake news...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...e-could-come-year-trump-says-experts-n1207411

That's why the vaccine was ready to stick into your arm the moment the research was done. Although Biden is still having to get his head around how to inject people in their arms, because that is such a complex task to arrange.

I know this is total bullshit - for a fact - because I work for Moderna, you fucking cretin.
 
I know this is total bullshit - for a fact - because I work for Moderna, you fucking cretin.

In manufacturing? In process validation? In legal drafting the contracts with everyone in their supply chain? All of the above? Or more likely Trump still living in your head for free.
 
In manufacturing? In process validation? In legal drafting the contracts with everyone in their supply chain? All of the above? Or more likely Trump still living in your head for free.
In R&D. Checkmate.

EDIT: Since I know that you will be ignorant to this: R&D is where all the delay in developing drugs exists. mRNA vaccines have been in development for years. The first mRNA vaccine for SARS-CoV-2 was synthesized by Moderna less than 30 days after the DNA was sequenced. I know, because I was there. The technology and everything else was all in place. What Trump did, to his credit, was to remove some of the regulatory barriers, to fast track the vaccine through the otherwise lengthy clinical trials process. He didn't "develop the vaccine" or even mandate that anyone begin development of a vaccine. It was all happening in spite of him. His dismantling of the early warning systems for tracking viral spread, his complete ignorance of the plan that Obama had created for proper pandemic response, his lack of vaccine distribution planning readiness (because instead he was fixated on fake claims of voter fraud for the last 100 days of his presidency), and his otherwise entirely stupid politicizing of the mask issue, are all to his massive discredit.

So fuck off with your fake science bullshit you utter bellend.
 
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In R&D. Checkmate.

EDIT: Since I know that you will be ignorant to this: R&D is where all the delay in developing drugs exists. mRNA vaccines have been in development for years. The first mRNA vaccine for SARS-CoV-2 was synthesized by Moderna less than 30 days after the DNA was sequenced. I know, because I was there. The technology and everything else was all in place. What Trump did, to his credit, was to remove some of the regulatory barriers, to fast track the vaccine through the otherwise lengthy clinical trials process. He didn't "develop the vaccine" or even mandate that anyone begin development of a vaccine. It was all happening in spite of him. His dismantling of the early warning systems for tracking viral spread, his complete ignorance of the plan that Obama had created for proper pandemic response, his lack of vaccine distribution planning readiness (because instead he was fixated on fake claims of voter fraud for the last 100 days of his presidency), and his otherwise entirely stupid politicizing of the mask issue, are all to his massive discredit.

So fuck off with your fake science bullshit you utter bellend.


He didn't "develop the vaccine"? Get the fuck out of her with your blatant lies! He did developed the vaccine, stop lying, he even published the seminal research on mRNA himself. So there, wah wah wah.
 
In R&D. Checkmate.

EDIT: Since I know that you will be ignorant to this: R&D is where all the delay in developing drugs exists. mRNA vaccines have been in development for years. The first mRNA vaccine for SARS-CoV-2 was synthesized by Moderna less than 30 days after the DNA was sequenced. I know, because I was there. The technology and everything else was all in place. What Trump did, to his credit, was to remove some of the regulatory barriers, to fast track the vaccine through the otherwise lengthy clinical trials process. He didn't "develop the vaccine" or even mandate that anyone begin development of a vaccine. It was all happening in spite of him. His dismantling of the early warning systems for tracking viral spread, his complete ignorance of the plan that Obama had created for proper pandemic response, his lack of vaccine distribution planning readiness (because instead he was fixated on fake claims of voter fraud for the last 100 days of his presidency), and his otherwise entirely stupid politicizing of the mask issue, are all to his massive discredit.

So fuck off with your fake science bullshit you utter bellend.
Did you get to meet Dolly Parton?
 
He didn't "develop the vaccine"? Get the fuck out of her with your blatant lies! He did developed the vaccine, stop lying, he even published the seminal research on mRNA himself. So there, wah wah wah.
This is as close to Dantes admitting he's wrong as we will ever likely to get.

Step forward Dantes 5.0
 
This is as close to Dantes admitting he's wrong as we will ever likely to get.

Step forward Dantes 5.0

No, it's a case of your delusional hatred of trump leading you to read what I said as "trump synthesised the vaccine with his bare hands" in order to have something you can bash him with, and me not being arsed to explain how the stages of drug development to manufacture work to a lab monkey who thinks the money that paid those costs including his salary came from fairies.
 
No, it's a case of your delusional hatred of trump leading you to read what I said as "trump synthesised the vaccine with his bare hands" in order to have something you can bash him with, and me not being arsed to explain how the stages of drug development to manufacture work to a lab monkey who thinks the money that paid those costs including his salary came from fairies.
Dantes meltdown... you love to see it.

For the record. In my best shaggy voice. "It wasn't me". You've got your posters mixed up.
 
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In R&D. Checkmate.

EDIT: Since I know that you will be ignorant to this: R&D is where all the delay in developing drugs exists. mRNA vaccines have been in development for years. The first mRNA vaccine for SARS-CoV-2 was synthesized by Moderna less than 30 days after the DNA was sequenced. I know, because I was there. The technology and everything else was all in place. What Trump did, to his credit, was to remove some of the regulatory barriers, to fast track the vaccine through the otherwise lengthy clinical trials process. He didn't "develop the vaccine" or even mandate that anyone begin development of a vaccine. It was all happening in spite of him. His dismantling of the early warning systems for tracking viral spread, his complete ignorance of the plan that Obama had created for proper pandemic response, his lack of vaccine distribution planning readiness (because instead he was fixated on fake claims of voter fraud for the last 100 days of his presidency), and his otherwise entirely stupid politicizing of the mask issue, are all to his massive discredit.

So fuck off with your fake science bullshit you utter bellend.

I bet Bill Gates pays you to post this bullshit
 
No, it's a case of your delusional hatred of trump leading you to read what I said as "trump synthesised the vaccine with his bare hands" in order to have something you can bash him with, and me not being arsed to explain how the stages of drug development to manufacture work to a lab monkey who thinks the money that paid those costs including his salary came from fairies.

You said, and I quote, "Trump didn't wait, he got all the stake holders on the job before the vaccine was anywhere near to developed, because he paid attention the day they taught him project management, or gantt charts was the term in his day."

Wrong. Again. Also, the vaccine dev was fully funded before Trump woke up 4 months too late. So - wrong again again.
 
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