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Big D vs Twitter

I see Trump is contemplating pardoning himself. Not surprising in all honesty. He’ll be fucked if he doesnt.
 
I look at it purely in terms of transactions. Financial transactions are all that link people together in the ways that matter. You have three transactors, government (g), businesses (b) and consumers (c).

Socialist transactions = g2c g2b

Capitalist transactions = b2b b2c c2c

The former lead to inefficient lower value for money goods and services. But if it's something important like the environment or healthcare, inefficiency does not matter and you should socialise it. The latter lead to wealth and innovation and higher standards of living, which pays for the former. Debating one or the other is ridiculous, there is no debate, there is one answer, the right answer. If you're a capitalist and want only private transactions, you're an idiot. Same goes for socialists. What you want is the optimal balance. Trump was bringing balance to that force. And now he's gone. Biden is or god forbid Kamala are setting up to execute order 66.

I was with you until the last 3 sentences. In America, the balance is skewed towards too little socialism – the only advanced country with no universal healthcare, no parental leave, a pitiful minimum wage, awful public transportation etc. All Trump and his enablers did was purposely exacerbate the already skyrocketing inequality, which would have eventually resulted in complete stratification of society into halves and have-nots and the death of democracy (because democracy is a side-effect of a thriving middle class). I suspect for Murdochs and their ilk it's the death of democracy that is their ultimate goal and prize.
 
I see Trump is contemplating pardoning himself. Not surprising in all honesty. He’ll be fucked if he doesnt.

Which might not even be legally possible - so even if he does it’d go straight to court.

I’m not sure even a Trump selected SCOTUS would wave through the ability of any sitting President to Pre-emptively pardon themselves of potential crime committed either before or during office.

I think I read somewhere that there’s a ruling from the 1800’s, when this was last considered, that a pre-emptive self-pardon equates to an admission of guilt.
 


I will miss her, but she is detached from reality. The violence is not a protest, it's a reaction to them losing money. Money they use to provide for their god damn families. It's not complicated. They reasonably believe they are losing that money because of fraud and unconstitutional electoral processes. All they wanted and requested was for that to be investigated and remedied. It's their money at stake. Something the establishment will never relate to. Nor will the lovely Kayleigh or Trump ever relate to it. Which is why they so nonchalantly call for peace.

The reaction to these people has literally been you lost money, we don't give a fuck if it was fair or free, because it's your money, so shut up and hand it over. Like seriously, what fantasy land has the fake news convinced you of where that won't end violently?
 
I was with you until the last 3 sentences. In America, the balance is skewed towards too little socialism – the only advanced country with no universal healthcare, no parental leave, a pitiful minimum wage, awful public transportation etc. All Trump and his enablers did was purposely exacerbate the already skyrocketing inequality, which would have eventually resulted in complete stratification of society into halves and have-nots and the death of democracy (because democracy is a side-effect of a thriving middle class). I suspect for Murdochs and their ilk it's the death of democracy that is their ultimate goal and prize.

That's a disagreement I can happily tolerate and resolve. It's the disagreement that should be occuring between the rural and urban citizens instead of the pointless crap they spew today.
 
I look at it purely in terms of transactions. Financial transactions are all that link people together in the ways that matter. You have three transactors, government (g), businesses (b) and consumers (c).

Socialist transactions = g2c g2b

Capitalist transactions = b2b b2c c2c

The former lead to inefficient lower value for money goods and services. But if it's something important like the environment or healthcare, inefficiency does not matter and you should socialise it. The latter lead to wealth and innovation and higher standards of living, which pays for the former. Debating one or the other is ridiculous, there is no debate, there is one answer, the right answer. If you're a capitalist and want only private transactions, you're an idiot. Same goes for socialists. What you want is the optimal balance. Trump was bringing balance to that force. And now he's gone. Biden is or god forbid Kamala are setting up to execute order 66.


Dantes.... Order 66 was just attempted by Emperor Trump.

Anakin Pence didn’t lop off Mace Pelosi’s arm as it brought an end to his tyranny.... and all the Twitter lightening from his fingertips was removed... so it was... “LIMITED POWER!!!”

Rejoice.... Emperor Trump can now spend some time ensuring his granddaughter doesn’t become so irritating.
 


I will miss her, but she is detached from reality. The violence is not a protest, it's a reaction to them losing money. Money they use to provide for their god damn families. It's not complicated. They reasonably believe they are losing that money because of fraud and unconstitutional electoral processes. All they wanted and requested was for that to be investigated and remedied. It's their money at stake. Something the establishment will never relate to. Nor will the lovely Kayleigh or Trump ever relate to it. Which is why they so nonchalantly call for peace.

The reaction to these people has literally been you lost money, we don't give a fuck if it was fair or free, because it's your money, so shut up and hand it over. Like seriously, what fantasy land has the fake news convinced you of where that won't end violently?



I think you’re misjudging a lot of the Trump support base. I don’t think they’re looking at this from as pure an economic basis as you are.

For all Trump’s idiocy - he can sell shit to anyone, he knows how to work an audience better than anyone that’s properly active in US politics and he pushes buttons more effectively than anyone I think I’ve come across.

The problem is - I don’t think economics will solve the issues that have led America to where it is.
 
I think you’re misjudging a lot of the Trump support base. I don’t think they’re looking at this from as pure an economic basis as you are.

For all Trump’s idiocy - he can sell shit to anyone, he knows how to work an audience better than anyone that’s properly active in US politics and he pushes buttons more effectively than anyone I think I’ve come across.

The problem is - I don’t think economics will solve the issues that have led America to where it is.

It's religion
 
Biden has been awfully quiet this whole time, hasn't he?

He’s made his statement - I’m not sure what else he should do - no point starting a slanging match with Trump and there’s no value in him going in hard and demanding Trumps removal - Pelosi can do that.

Seems to be a lot of talk this morning that Trump’s done for politically - and some pressure on him to resign to avoid the ignominy of being removed by impeachment or Amendment 25’d due to mental incapacity.

I think Biden’s response has been made to be understated, Statesmanlike, reserved - because he needs to be the one calming things down - not ramping things up.
 
Biden made his statement shortly after the events took place, I doubt you can expect him to do more given that he doesnt take over until the 20th.
 
What law, rule or procedure did Trump break? What medical condition does he have that warrants removal? Have people gone fucking nuts? Remove him for what?

I can only imagine they want to conduct a dry run for when it's time to remove Biden.
 
What law, rule or procedure did Trump break? What medical condition does he have that warrants removal? Have people gone fucking nuts? Remove him for what?

I can only imagine they want to conduct a dry run for when it's time to remove Biden.

Mate - Trump is fucking nuts. He doesn’t seem capable of processing what’s going on. I think he has a mental condition.

Ever you could probably argue a case for sedition.

I worry about you if you can’t see it.

Besides - getting removed for being mentally unsound will do wonders for his defence in all those upcoming court cases.
 
Dantes... learning to let go of the people we love is important.

Remember... Anakin couldn’t let go of the one he loved.

It can only end in you slaughtering innocent younglings and developing bad asthma.

Don’t be like Anakin, Dantes.

Let goooooooooo.... use your feelingsssss.
 
Mate - Trump is fucking nuts. He doesn’t seem capable of processing what’s going on. I think he has a mental condition.

Ever you could probably argue a case for sedition.

I worry about you if you can’t see it.

Besides - getting removed for being mentally unsound will do wonders for his defence in all those upcoming court cases.

So basically you have nothing other than the fake news reporting his unreferenced actions/statements of his as sedition or illness. I see his actions and his statements. You see them with fake news commentary rattling through your mind. Or you simply don't understand either constitutional process despite one having been used for years already to no avail.
 
Don't forget who killed who when it came down to it. As for Big D, he invited his supporters to a rally, where he spoke to them, saying the same things he's always said. There is literally no way on earth you can turn that into him orchestrating a coup. I can't believe how many people think otherwise.
 
If they want to turn up to court and submit that Trump incited violence because look, twitter suspended his account because they say it might incite violence, see, twitter said it, ethidence, wah wah wah, I'd love to see it.
 
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So basically you have nothing other than the fake news reporting his unreferenced actions/statements of his as sedition or illness. I see his actions and his statements. You see them with fake news commentary rattling through your mind. Or you simply don't understand either constitutional process despite one having been used for years already to no avail.


Sedition - conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch.

I have the words coming out of Donald J Trump’s on mouth - for which a case of sedition could be made.

I don’t think he should be charged with it by the way- but I’m nice like that.

Maybe someone should sign an affidavit saying they thinks he’s mentally unstable, present it to court and we can demand full access to all his health records and communications over the last few months - spend some time digging around, going through the fine detail - see if there’s anything to support the claims.

After all - it’s the only way to be sure he isn’t mentally unstable after all isn’t it?
 
Don't forget who killed who when it came down to it. As for Big D, he invited his supporters to a rally, where he spoke to them, saying the same things he's always said. There is literally no way on earth you can turn that into him orchestrating a coup. I can't believe how many people think otherwise.


Yeah... Hitler used to invite people to rallies... no way you could pin a coup on him either.
 
Sedition - conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch.

I have the words coming out of Donald J Trump’s on mouth - for which a case of sedition could be made.

I don’t think he should be charged with it by the way- but I’m nice like that.

Maybe someone should sign an affidavit saying they thinks he’s mentally unstable, present it to court and we can demand full access to all his health records and communications over the last few months - spend some time digging around, going through the fine detail - see if there’s anything to support the claims.

After all - it’s the only way to be sure he isn’t mentally unstable after all isn’t it?

When in the hell did Trump incite people to rebel? He didn't. That's a problem now isn't it for your sedition case.
 
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