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Yes of course. But millions of Trump supporters believe it and seem to be increasingly angry about it.

Once the supreme court shuts this down, and the Electors vote on Monday, it won't take much to spark things off...

Neither side are well versed in litigation. Trump supporters have a common sense justification for their belief, without looking at the filings. Biden's side have blind faith in the court loss count, without looking at the filings.

It's like they're both arguing about the game having seen the score on ceefax, despite neither of them watching the game, or even watching any game ever in their lives. Anyone who watched the game will know that both sides are equally at fault for the coming violence.
 
I couldn't imagine losing a court case. But if the other party is aggrieved and also has assault rifles with open carry permits, common sense dictates that it's not the best time to add to your win column. You don't ever respond to them by lawyering up and getting away with it, it is folly for obvious reasons. If you do, then it's your own fault and may god have mercy on your soul.
 
And all while Trumpster has after the election made about 200 mill $ from donations to keep things "going".
Which was probably the whole point of this farce. He knew he couldn't overturn anything and knew there was no systemic fraud but if there's a cash cow to be milked you know he'll be sniffing around like a fly to shit.
 
Which was probably the whole point of this farce. He knew he couldn't overturn anything and knew there was no systemic fraud but if there's a cash cow to be milked you know he'll be sniffing around like a fly to shit.

Yes, but you haven't read the court filings or read enough mathematics to determine those things for yourself, it's just a summation of other people's summations. Put it this way, this latest lawsuit has the makings of the the most famous court case in the history of their nation. My jaw will drop if the supreme court justices say nah, fuck it, case summarily dismissed, ain't nobody got time to put their nine names up there as the most famous and talked about justices of all time.
 
My jaw will drop if the supreme court justices say nah, fuck it, case summarily dismissed, ain't nobody got time to put their nine names up there as the most famous and talked about justices of all time.

Infamous rather than famous, I would have thought. Do judges really want to put their names to an unprecedented and unconstitutional decision which threatens the smooth transition of one president to another for the first time in U.S. history?
 
Infamous rather than famous, I would have thought. Do judges really want to put their names to an unprecedented and unconstitutional decision which threatens the smooth transition of one president to another for the first time in U.S. history?

Each one of them has an ego and would back their legal intellect and skill to arrive at the correct solution to this problem. It is most definitely a problem.

The lower court in pensylvannia upheld the argument texas is making. The higher court then overruled based on the doctrine of laches (delay), not on the basis that they didn't act against the constitution, and two judges even dissented on that. Their logic was the case should still proceed if for no reason than to rule on whether the constitution was broken, but we should not grant the injunction because these voters have already relied upon the unconstitutional law to vote. It would be utterly wrong to bin their votes now, when they did nothing wrong themselves. That is what they found, and it's totally fair. Yet the fake news are blathering on about no ethidence and fraud and trump trying to be a tyrant. They are lying or they don't know what they're talking about.

The difference now is texas et al are bringing the claim, not a republican senator on his jack jones. This is a problem. What the lower courts found about not disenfranchising the voters despite the law being broken is no longer so easy to argue. Because there are millions of voters in the other states who you now have to fuck, rather than just one senator. I don't know how I'd balance this problem. Do you? Does the fake news? What I do know is the paedophiles in the supreme court will be gagging to have a go at it and put their names down in history.

The way out is to decline jurisdiction. Say one state can't sue another state over this. If texas has a problem then it needs to sue pensylvannia in pensylvannia's own court. Maybe that's the legal fact of the matter. But to me it would seem fucked and will lead to instant civil war. So from that side of things there is good reason to not summarily dismiss the claim.
 
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The easiest way out for them is to hear the claim, then make a finding of fraud, and use that to justify discounting those votes. That would be the only way to appease everyone. Thinking about it, this is probably why the lawyers are not pleading fraud but still name-dropping it every chance they get in their court filings.
 
You can't disenfranchise millions of voters if they never existed

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Yes, but you haven't read the court filings or read enough mathematics to determine those things for yourself, it's just a summation of other people's summations. Put it this way, this latest lawsuit has the makings of the the most famous court case in the history of their nation. My jaw will drop if the supreme court justices say nah, fuck it, case summarily dismissed, ain't nobody got time to put their nine names up there as the most famous and talked about justices of all time.
Nothing to do with mathematics my dear Dantes. Just the law - Texas are not entitled to lodge a case against another state. So whatever the merits or otherwise, it ends there.
 
........The way out is to decline jurisdiction. Say one state can't sue another state over this. If texas has a problem then it needs to sue pensylvannia in pensylvannia's own court. Maybe that's the legal fact of the matter. But to me it would seem fucked and will lead to instant civil war. So from that side of things there is good reason to not summarily dismiss the claim.

Lead to civil war ? Ahahahaha !! After having their arses handed to them more than 50 times already they are well prepared for this one. The response will be no different to any other.
 
Even Fox are saying it's a load of bollocks with no merit. Kinda weird that you'll be mega shocked when it fails Dantes.

As for needing to know the ins and outs of every case and not just skimming articles, that's crazy talk. You think I know anything about cars? No but I know German people are good at making them so I buy the ones they make. I don't learn how they build them or what's going on in the engine or why they're better than the other ones, I just go by what I pick up along the way and that'll do. It's worked so far in all these cases.
 
Even Fox are saying it's a load of bollocks with no merit. Kinda weird that you'll be mega shocked when it fails Dantes.

As for needing to know the ins and outs of every case and not just skimming articles, that's crazy talk. You think I know anything about cars? No but I know German people are good at making them so I buy the ones they make. I don't learn how they build them or what's going on in the engine or why they're better than the other ones, I just go by what I pick up along the way and that'll do. It's worked so far in all these cases.

You don't need to know the ins and outs, but it's better to at least know the car has a combustion engine under the hood rather than magical leprechauns making it go forward when you put it in drive. I'll be shocked because you have half the states wanting the blood of the other half of states, that's the biggest case of all time, it's irresistible, I can't imagine any judge passing up on the chance to play.
 
The Last Days of Rome.

A disturbing pro-Russian pattern in Trump’s decisions suggest the worst is yet to come. His continued alignment with Russian interests must be viewed in light of his decade-long dependency on Russia for financial survival after numerous bankruptcies. “Russians make up a … disproportionate cross-section of … our assets,” said, Donald Trump Jr. Eric Trump bragged, “We don’t rely on American banks; we have all the funding we need out of Russia.”

Trump’s financial records show he owes $421 million that comes due over the next four years with the questionable ability to repay it. Some estimates have it at $1.1B and put Trump’s net worth at a fraction of what he claims. U.S. banks stopped lending to him in the mid-2000s, so he’ll need help from somewhere else. Russia is a likely go-to source.

It’s therefore not irrational to worry that Trump may have cut a deal with Vladimir Putin before his administration is done.
 
This clip sort of encapsulates the Texas Coup Attempt :-

Philosophically this lawsuit is a betrayal of everything defenders of federalism and the Electoral College claim to believe. The state of Texas has no standing to complain how those other states conduct elections or appoint their electors. If it were taken seriously, it would open a Pandora’s box of asininity in which various states would use the federal government to dictate how other states operate.

More infuriating, the driving impetus of this lawsuit—outrageously joined by 17 other Republican run-states and supported by 106 House Republicans who signed an amicus brief—is to steal a presidential election. That’s why you don’t have to agree about having an Electoral College (right or wrong); the Republicans supporting this lawsuit have long claimed the rightful role of the Electoral College and its role in the constitutional order. Yet they are throwing that away to aid and abet a president in precisely the sort of constitutional crime the Electoral College was designed to prevent.

It is an act of cynical, unpatriotic, undemocratic hypocrisy unrivaled in American history, a pure power play on behalf of a president whose disregard for the very Constitution these people have long claimed to adore is total. It is shameful. Infuriatingly shameful.
 
Initiated in October.
  • The FBI has served subpoenas to the office of Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, according to local media reports.
  • The FBI launched an investigation into Paxton after former officials in his office alleged that he had abused his position to help a wealthy donor (all whistleblowers have since been fired by Paxton).
  • This week Paxton filed a lawsuit to the Supreme Court seeking to overturn the result of the 2020 presidential election in four swing states, and President Donald Trump's campaign filed a motion to join the suit.
  • Experts believe the lawsuit has little chance of success.
  • GOP Sen. Ben Sasse has also criticized the lawsuit, and suggested that Paxton filed it in exchange for a potential presidential pardon from Trump.
 
This clip sort of encapsulates the Texas Coup Attempt :-

Philosophically this lawsuit is a betrayal of everything defenders of federalism and the Electoral College claim to believe. The state of Texas has no standing to complain how those other states conduct elections or appoint their electors. If it were taken seriously, it would open a Pandora’s box of asininity in which various states would use the federal government to dictate how other states operate.

More infuriating, the driving impetus of this lawsuit—outrageously joined by 17 other Republican run-states and supported by 106 House Republicans who signed an amicus brief—is to steal a presidential election. That’s why you don’t have to agree about having an Electoral College (right or wrong); the Republicans supporting this lawsuit have long claimed the rightful role of the Electoral College and its role in the constitutional order. Yet they are throwing that away to aid and abet a president in precisely the sort of constitutional crime the Electoral College was designed to prevent.

It is an act of cynical, unpatriotic, undemocratic hypocrisy unrivaled in American history, a pure power play on behalf of a president whose disregard for the very Constitution these people have long claimed to adore is total. It is shameful. Infuriatingly shameful.

A delusional encapsulation. The position of the claimant state is that the defendant state illegally counted votes and/or that those votes were fraudulent. That is the claim. This encapsulation presupposes there was nothing illegal, then takes the moral high ground of oh how dare they, they are trying to steal the election, thieves! You can say that about all claims in all courts in the entire world, and then do away with the justice system. I for one would love to see it.

I'd kill you all, then assume out of thin air that I hadn't killed you, and walk free. Aces.
 
Initiated in October.
  • The FBI has served subpoenas to the office of Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, according to local media reports.
  • The FBI launched an investigation into Paxton after former officials in his office alleged that he had abused his position to help a wealthy donor (all whistleblowers have since been fired by Paxton).
  • This week Paxton filed a lawsuit to the Supreme Court seeking to overturn the result of the 2020 presidential election in four swing states, and President Donald Trump's campaign filed a motion to join the suit.
  • Experts believe the lawsuit has little chance of success.
  • GOP Sen. Ben Sasse has also criticized the lawsuit, and suggested that Paxton filed it in exchange for a potential presidential pardon from Trump.

The "FBI" hahah all the lolz.
 
Yeah if @PatriotKillerEagle666 had served the subpoenas then the Trumpers would figure there was some truth to it all.
 
The last time the words 'FBI' and 'truth' were associated without instant ridicule, was on the x-files.
 
I thought Paxton had done some insider trading and was being investigated by the SEC, or I've confused him with someone else, but in that case you can hardly blame him swinging for pardon as it's the only way out.
 
The texan reply to the opposition briefs look pretty good, like if I was a justice on the supreme court, I don't think dismissing this thing is an option any more. They also haven't missed a trick by ripping those one in quadrillion retarded objections to utter shreds, which now makes it seem like it was actually a credible probability to begin with. Jaw dropping, yet not surprising given the state of data science.
 
Each one of them has an ego and would back their legal intellect and skill to arrive at the correct solution to this problem. It is most definitely a problem.

The lower court in pensylvannia upheld the argument texas is making. The higher court then overruled based on the doctrine of laches (delay), not on the basis that they didn't act against the constitution, and two judges even dissented on that. Their logic was the case should still proceed if for no reason than to rule on whether the constitution was broken, but we should not grant the injunction because these voters have already relied upon the unconstitutional law to vote. It would be utterly wrong to bin their votes now, when they did nothing wrong themselves. That is what they found, and it's totally fair. Yet the fake news are blathering on about no ethidence and fraud and trump trying to be a tyrant. They are lying or they don't know what they're talking about.

The difference now is texas et al are bringing the claim, not a republican senator on his jack jones. This is a problem. What the lower courts found about not disenfranchising the voters despite the law being broken is no longer so easy to argue. Because there are millions of voters in the other states who you now have to fuck, rather than just one senator. I don't know how I'd balance this problem. Do you? Does the fake news? What I do know is the paedophiles in the supreme court will be gagging to have a go at it and put their names down in history.

The way out is to decline jurisdiction. Say one state can't sue another state over this. If texas has a problem then it needs to sue pensylvannia in pensylvannia's own court. Maybe that's the legal fact of the matter. But to me it would seem fucked and will lead to instant civil war. So from that side of things there is good reason to not summarily dismiss the claim.

I have some good news for you. Your impressively consistent streak of being wrong is still going.

Unfortunately I have some bad news.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...s-lawsuit-aiming-to-overturn-election-results

Ooooops.

No-one saw that coming.
 
All 9 Supreme Court Judges rejected.

Including the one just appointed by Trump.

Twitter meltdown in..... 3... 2... 1...
 
Trump has quite a number of firsts to his name, the vast majority are not favourable, however now he'll go down as not only the most despised US president in history but by far the biggest laughing stock not just domestically but globally. It's a thing of beauty to watch.
 
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