Best commentator and pundit?
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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=37012.msg982871#msg982871 date=1257709708]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=37012.msg982867#msg982867 date=1257709395]
I quite liked Marcel Desailly.
[/quote]Ron Atkinson doesnt.
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Ha.
Poor Ron forgot where he was for a second didn't he.
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=37012.msg982867#msg982867 date=1257709395]
I quite liked Marcel Desailly.
[/quote]Ron Atkinson doesnt.
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Ha.
Poor Ron forgot where he was for a second didn't he.
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=37012.msg982863#msg982863 date=1257709007]
I like Green but he's an absolute child. He's behaved appallingly to Graham Taylor over the most trivial things - he's gone into a two MONTH-long sulk over some throwaway remark Taylor's made during a match and not spoken to him other than during a live match. Gent as he is, Taylor forgives him and moves on, but it's downright silly.
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That's disappointing but not really a surprise. He's noticeably less keen to take stick, certainly on that phone-in, than he is to dish it out.
I like Green but he's an absolute child. He's behaved appallingly to Graham Taylor over the most trivial things - he's gone into a two MONTH-long sulk over some throwaway remark Taylor's made during a match and not spoken to him other than during a live match. Gent as he is, Taylor forgives him and moves on, but it's downright silly.
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That's disappointing but not really a surprise. He's noticeably less keen to take stick, certainly on that phone-in, than he is to dish it out.
The last story I was told was that Green saw the crowd doing a Mexican wave - this was somewhere abroad, an England match - and he said something like, 'I wish I had a gun to shoot them' and Taylor chuckled and said 'Alan, you do say some stupid things sometimes'. Apparently, as soon as they were off mic Green went nuts saying 'Don't you EVER call me stupid on air again!!' So Taylor told him not to be such a tit and he sulked! He'd be banned on here!
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=37012.msg982918#msg982918 date=1257712339]
And before anyone asks, No, I'm NOT Alan Green!!
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No, you're Graham Taylor!
And before anyone asks, No, I'm NOT Alan Green!!
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No, you're Graham Taylor!
Tee and hee
Peter Jones commentary for Alan Kennedy's goal against Real Madrid is one of the best of all-time.
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=37012.msg983013#msg983013 date=1257716583]
Yes, Peter Jones was wonderful. Very mellifluous, perceptive and absolutely no ego. I think Alan Parry was often his colleague on air. Parry was good in those days, and was happily biased towards us. Pity the bloke is as mad as a box of frogs these days.
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Wasn't there a Ron who used to work with him too? I'm sure I can recall the Radio 2 announcer (fuck, how old do i sound?) saying: "and it's over now to your commentators in Belgrade (or wherever), Peter Jones and Ron..."
Not Atkinson, obv.
Yes, Peter Jones was wonderful. Very mellifluous, perceptive and absolutely no ego. I think Alan Parry was often his colleague on air. Parry was good in those days, and was happily biased towards us. Pity the bloke is as mad as a box of frogs these days.
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Wasn't there a Ron who used to work with him too? I'm sure I can recall the Radio 2 announcer (fuck, how old do i sound?) saying: "and it's over now to your commentators in Belgrade (or wherever), Peter Jones and Ron..."
Not Atkinson, obv.
[quote author=leftpeg link=topic=37012.msg983028#msg983028 date=1257717153]
Bryon Butler and Ron Jones - great shouts Macca.
Those were the days. We were good then.
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And commentators did the job of actually commentating and not forcing their shitty opinions on us, like the current breed.
Bryon Butler and Ron Jones - great shouts Macca.
Those were the days. We were good then.
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And commentators did the job of actually commentating and not forcing their shitty opinions on us, like the current breed.
[quote author=ricobats link=topic=37012.msg983077#msg983077 date=1257719612]
And commentators did the job of actually commentating and not forcing their shitty opinions on us, like the current breed.
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Play by play is done about 10% of the time now, and English commentators do it so poorly other than the odd goal. I want analysis (that isn't fucking obvious) of what is going on on the pitch, in this particular game, and play by play. I don't need to hear constant opinion.
And commentators did the job of actually commentating and not forcing their shitty opinions on us, like the current breed.
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Play by play is done about 10% of the time now, and English commentators do it so poorly other than the odd goal. I want analysis (that isn't fucking obvious) of what is going on on the pitch, in this particular game, and play by play. I don't need to hear constant opinion.
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[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=37012.msg982474#msg982474 date=1257678461]
I used to love James Richardson on the Italian footy. Is he still knocking about?
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Guardian Football weekly podcast.
He hosts it.
I don't think he's on TV regularly these days.
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He hosted a show on Setanta until it got booted didn't he?
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=37012.msg982474#msg982474 date=1257678461]
I used to love James Richardson on the Italian footy. Is he still knocking about?
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Guardian Football weekly podcast.
He hosts it.
I don't think he's on TV regularly these days.
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He hosted a show on Setanta until it got booted didn't he?
Yes
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=37012.msg983020#msg983020 date=1257716998]
Bryon Butler, he was another one.
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Yup, Bryon Butler and Peter Jones were as-good-as-it-gets in terms of commentary.
My least favourite pundits - Merson, Claridge, Alan Smith, Collymore and Birtles.
Bryon Butler, he was another one.
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Yup, Bryon Butler and Peter Jones were as-good-as-it-gets in terms of commentary.
My least favourite pundits - Merson, Claridge, Alan Smith, Collymore and Birtles.
[quote author=Roopy link=topic=37012.msg982358#msg982358 date=1257659159]
Commentators I like are Martin Tyler, Gary Bloom, John Helm
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Gary Bloom and John Helm (he's that impossibly Northern one isn't he?) are good examples of those kind of second tier commentators. The ones who never get the live games, just the highlights. They would normally feature heavily on end of season videos when they get the footage from regional programmes. Tony Gubba is of course king of that group.
A pundit who I think is normally very good is Stan Collymore, and even though it is on Talkshite his show is actually quite good. He talks a lot of sense even if he is mental.
Commentators I like are Martin Tyler, Gary Bloom, John Helm
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Gary Bloom and John Helm (he's that impossibly Northern one isn't he?) are good examples of those kind of second tier commentators. The ones who never get the live games, just the highlights. They would normally feature heavily on end of season videos when they get the footage from regional programmes. Tony Gubba is of course king of that group.
A pundit who I think is normally very good is Stan Collymore, and even though it is on Talkshite his show is actually quite good. He talks a lot of sense even if he is mental.
That he does, though he has an odd habit of using slightly formal terminology which would be more appropriate to written stuff.
No he doesn't
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