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[quote author=ILD link=topic=44994.msg1317075#msg1317075 date=1303062601]
A united fan already asked on FB if Kenny would be reprimanded for saying piss off?

Jeez, it's not like he went to the camera and shouted down the lens at the viewers.
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He probably should be if the FA would be consistent, thankfully they're not.
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Bollocks, not anywhere near the same situation.
 
I could live with it if the FA banned Kenny from playing for a few games...
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=44994.msg1317187#msg1317187 date=1303069015]
I loved that today, the odds were well and truly against us, but the fight was there, from top to bottom, from back to front.

I had a 15 minute discussion with an Arsenal fan afterwards who told me we weren't progressing because of our predicament over the last 20 years, errr... have you checked the last 6 years of your own history??? It's boss that you can pass the ball like.
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hahaha, well said, this made me LOL
 
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[quote author=RedZeppelin link=topic=44994.msg1317110#msg1317110 date=1303063576]
I didn't mind Wenger a few years ago but now he gets right on my tits , he seems to think that just because they play "good football" that they deserve success . Don't get me wrong.
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I hate the fact that Arse fans seem to subscribe to this belief.

That, and their ridiculous "hoof" chants. Like they're above the rest of us and George Graham never managed them.
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1. Skrtel clears the ball.
2. Arsenal fans - "HOOF!!!"
3. Robbie Keane runs on to it and smashes it in :laugh:
 
The problem with Arsenal is that they do not have a key group of champion players as they did before.

You watch a side like Barca - like Arsenal they play great football, but you can also see that every player out there on the pitch plays for the team and are animal-like in trying to get that victory. Puyol, Inista, Xavi etc ... they WANT to win.

Whereas you look at Arsenal and you have some very talented footballers with shit attitudes.

Champions like Kolo Toure, Viera, Henry have been replaced with Djouro, Song, Bendtner.... players like Eboue spend more time complaining about fouls ... even a player like Gilberto who wasn't that greatly gifted was an integral player because of his attitude and mentality.

One player who is a real disappointment is Arshavin who is more interested in lining up his next career move. He spends more time talking about how good he is as a footballer and how deserves to be winning this & that, than applying himself on the pitch for Arsenal.

If Arsenal want to win silverware then the players need to accept their failures instead of making excuses. Acknowledge mistake, realise where you've gone wrong - only then can you move forward.
 
If the manager cannot accept his or his players failings, then thats what sets the tone. I hate Wenger.
 
Of course Wenger were dissapointed. I actually think Kenny overreacts there.. Its a dramatic end to the game and Wenger saw is title chance fly out the window.

But in honesty they lost it with the two other draws at Emirates. Arsenal is not pushing for the title because they are not good enough. A lucky 8 minute overtime win over Liverpool wouldnt have changed that.
 
* carra/aurelio injuries

* subs

= 8 minutes extra time

during extra time

* arsenal elaborate celebrations after scoring penalty

= 3 minutes
 
Don't forget Arsenal fucking around when we got the freekick before the penalty.
 
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[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=44994.msg1317117#msg1317117 date=1303063870]
[quote author=RedZeppelin link=topic=44994.msg1317110#msg1317110 date=1303063576]
I didn't mind Wenger a few years ago but now he gets right on my tits , he seems to think that just because they play "good football" that they deserve success . Don't get me wrong.
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I hate the fact that Arse fans seem to subscribe to this belief.

That, and their ridiculous "hoof" chants. Like they're above the rest of us and George Graham never managed them.
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1. Skrtel clears the ball.
2. Arsenal fans - "HOOF!!!"
3. Robbie Keane runs on to it and smashes it in :laugh:
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I really can stand that attitude towards other teams style of play that arsenal and Barcelona seem to carry. Like they're some form of higher footballing power. Theres more than one way to play the game. Fair enough, as much as some of the Barcelona players attitudes annoy me they've backed up their style with silverware. Arsenal have done nothing to back it up, only showing around this time every year that they are a bunch of spineless fairies!!
 
[quote author=Modo link=topic=44994.msg1317064#msg1317064 date=1303062300]
http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/dirk-kutyt-arsenal-9069203/
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If Dalglish gets into trouble, Arsene Wenger should likewise after calling Kuyt a 'fucking scouse cunt' half-way through that video. 😛

Anyone notice the montage at the end of MoTD 2 were they showed ruckus' between managers, Arsene Wenger must have appeared about 3 or 4 times the ungracious, petulant frog.
 
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=44994.msg1317470#msg1317470 date=1303121696]
Of course Wenger were dissapointed. I actually think Kenny overreacts there.. Its a dramatic end to the game and Wenger saw is title chance fly out the window.

But in honesty they lost it with the two other draws at Emirates. Arsenal is not pushing for the title because they are not good enough. A lucky 8 minute overtime win over Liverpool wouldnt have changed that.
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That's complete and utter bollocks. Kenny went over to shake the man's hand, got the usual juvenile reaction from Arsehole Whinger when things haven't gone his way, and still said and did practically nothing in reply. No other manager, not even the old tw@t at ManUre, would behave as Whinger did to a fellow manager (and has done many times before now). Get a grip.
 
Wenger's a sore, bitter loser, but he's no different to many fans in that regard, and it is always entertaining.

Catch him at any other time though and you'll find one of the most interesting men in football.
 
Wenger should feel privileged. He won't be told to "piss off" by anyone better in his entire life.
 
from the Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/apr/18/five-things-learned-premier-league

Arsène Wenger was furious that the referee, Andre Marriner, who took charge of their game against Liverpool, signalled eight minutes of stoppage time but played nearly 12, giving the visitors time not only to concede a penalty in the seventh minute, but to score one of their own in the last. "We conceded a penalty after 11 minutes and the extra time was only eight minutes," he said. "I don't know where this additional time came from."

If he's seen the game again, or read this morning's Sun, he should know by now. The tabloid examines the period in forensic detail: one minute and three seconds elapsed between Liverpool conceding the penalty and Arsenal scoring it, and Van Persie's celebration – for which he was booked – lasted a further 46 seconds.

Clearly, though, Dirk Kuyt was expecting the worst when he launched an optimistic shot direct from the subsequent kick-off. But those delays gave Liverpool enough time to win a free-kick on the edge of Arsenal's penalty area, which was awarded after 8mins 45sec of stoppage time. Mainly because of the time Arsenal took to retreat 10 yards, it took a full two minutes before Luis Suárez took his shot. Five seconds after that Lucas Leiva tumbled under Emmanuel Eboué's challenge and another penalty was awarded. In all, The Lying Rag calculated that just 4mins 49secs of actual football was played between the end of the 90th minute and the final whistle.

According to Fifa's Law 7, which covers the duration of a match, "the announcement of the additional time does not indicate the exact amount of time left in the match. The time may be increased if the referee considers it appropriate but never reduced."

It's understandable if Wenger is flabbergasted that his side found yet another novel way of not winning a match, but this is one whinge too many.
 
Absolutely spot on.

Ha, not convinced it was a pen, but it's the one occasion of Lucas being small and weak has actually benefited us.
 
It's very unlike Kenny to react that way so you know if he does it's not without good reason. At the end of a match regardless of what has transpired managers are supposed to shake hands. The fact that Whinger refused to do that and then start whinging was disrespectful and mean spirited. In short he deserved everything he got, hes a prick.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44994.msg1317539#msg1317539 date=1303127025]
Absolutely spot on.

Ha, not convinced it was a pen, but it's the one occasion of Lucas being small and weak has actually benefited us.
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I dont think that was a case of Lucas being small and weak. Didi Hamann would have nodded his head in appreciation at that passage of play ;D

Kenny comes out there with the intention of shaking Arsene's hand. Arsene throws a strop with his arms wide. What does he expect Kenny to do, apologize for making his young team sad. Fall at his feet and beg for forgiveness for having the audacity to fight till the very end to take away a point from the Emirates.

At no point does Arsene acknowledge that it was a stupid move from Eboue's part. It is the same with Toure too, jumping on to Ryan Babel when there was no need. At this point I think in the dressing room instead of blasting Eboue, he would be consoling him and calling Andre Marriner, FA, Lucas and Dalglish a cheat. That is the only reason why the same stupid mistakes are repeated over and over again.

And oh his famed attacking wing players where against two young academy players and could not do much. Hartson's analysis was brilliant in what was missing in Arsenal's attacking play. What they missed last night is what we have in loads. I am confident we will do better than them in the long run.
 
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44994.msg1317539#msg1317539 date=1303127025]
Absolutely spot on.

Ha, not convinced it was a pen, but it's the one occasion of Lucas being small and weak has actually benefited us.
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I dont think that was a case of Lucas being small and weak. Didi Hamann would have nodded his head in appreciation at that passage of play ;D
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Yeah, that was classic Didi. Lucas has been watching tapes.
 
[quote author=peekay link=topic=44994.msg1317550#msg1317550 date=1303128192]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44994.msg1317539#msg1317539 date=1303127025]
Absolutely spot on.

Ha, not convinced it was a pen, but it's the one occasion of Lucas being small and weak has actually benefited us.
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I dont think that was a case of Lucas being small and weak. Didi Hamann would have nodded his head in appreciation at that passage of play ;D

Kenny comes out there with the intention of shaking Arsene's hand. Arsene throws a strop with his arms wide. What does he expect Kenny to do, apologize for making his young team sad. Fall at his feet and beg for forgiveness for having the audacity to fight till the very end to take away a point from the Emirates.

At no point does Arsene acknowledge that it was a stupid move from Eboue's part. It is the same with Toure too, jumping on to Ryan Babel when there was no need. At this point I think in the dressing room instead of blasting Eboue, he would be consoling him and calling Andre Marriner, FA, Lucas and Dalglish a cheat. That is the only reason why the same stupid mistakes are repeated over and over again.

And oh his famed attacking wing players where against two young academy players and could not do much. Hartson's analysis was brilliant in what was missing in Arsenal's attacking play. What they missed last night is what we have in loads. I am confident we will do better than them in the long run.
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Interesting point and one which a few pundits have ear marked as one of wengers faults in the past. The fact that there seems to be no repercussions for the players if mistakes are made and that he prefers to blame officials instead of his players makes it a valid point. Theres certainly no 'hairdryer treatment' fear at the emirates. Its one thing to back the players in public like Kenny will always do...but if theres a problem or a player needs to be told a home truth itll be sorted behind closed doors...you just dont get that feeling with wenger!
 
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[quote author=peekay link=topic=44994.msg1317550#msg1317550 date=1303128192]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44994.msg1317539#msg1317539 date=1303127025]
Absolutely spot on.

Ha, not convinced it was a pen, but it's the one occasion of Lucas being small and weak has actually benefited us.
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I dont think that was a case of Lucas being small and weak. Didi Hamann would have nodded his head in appreciation at that passage of play ;D

Kenny comes out there with the intention of shaking Arsene's hand. Arsene throws a strop with his arms wide. What does he expect Kenny to do, apologize for making his young team sad. Fall at his feet and beg for forgiveness for having the audacity to fight till the very end to take away a point from the Emirates.

At no point does Arsene acknowledge that it was a stupid move from Eboue's part. It is the same with Toure too, jumping on to Ryan Babel when there was no need. At this point I think in the dressing room instead of blasting Eboue, he would be consoling him and calling Andre Marriner, FA, Lucas and Dalglish a cheat. That is the only reason why the same stupid mistakes are repeated over and over again.

And oh his famed attacking wing players where against two young academy players and could not do much. Hartson's analysis was brilliant in what was missing in Arsenal's attacking play. What they missed last night is what we have in loads. I am confident we will do better than them in the long run.
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Interesting point and one which a few pundits have ear marked as one of wengers faults in the past. The fact that there seems to be no repercussions for the players if mistakes are made and that he prefers to blame officials instead of his players makes it a valid point. Theres certainly no 'hairdryer treatment' fear at the emirates. Its one thing to back the players in public like Kenny will always do...but if theres a problem or a player needs to be told a home truth itll be sorted behind closed doors...you just dont get that feeling with wenger!
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cf The Fabregas backheal against Barca.
 
He's crying about three minutes being added on but really, it wasn't cause as soon as we kicked off, we got a freekick which took a while to set up and take and then the time between awarding the pen and actually taking it took a bit of time too, so he's full of shite.

Kenny telling him to piss off was genius though.
 
Im surprised the blind cunt even saw the time on the clock or the penalty decision. His usual 'i didnt see it' approach only seems to be used when decisions go his way!
 
Yet again, Dalglish proves himself a master at dealing with the press.

"I don't see how that is relevant to the game...thank you Geoffrey". Deflating Sky's customary sensationalist angle.

"We beat them 3-1 so I don't see how we handed them anything" on interviewers comments that our point would hand Utd the title.

He deserves a knighthood for his performances since he came back alone!
 
And Kenny does it all with good humour, so they don't hold it against him. The smiling assassin. 8)

The longer he's our manager, the more the old goat down the E.Lancs.Rd.will suffer by comparison.
 
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[quote author=Modo link=topic=44994.msg1317064#msg1317064 date=1303062300]
http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/dirk-kutyt-arsenal-9069203/
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If Dalglish gets into trouble, Arsene Wenger should likewise after calling Kuyt a 'fucking scouse cunt' half-way through that video. 😛

Anyone notice the montage at the end of MoTD 2 were they showed ruckus' between managers, Arsene Wenger must have appeared about 3 or 4 times the ungracious, petulant frog.
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No need.
 
FA will not charge Liverpool boss Kenny Dalglish for swearing at Arsenal counterpart Arsene Wenger
Pair had clashed on the sideline following the Reds' last gasp penalty award at the Emirates, and Sir Trevor Brooking claims spat is entirely different to Wayne Rooney's offence

By Adithya Ananth
19 Apr 2011 09:18:00

The FA has confirmed that Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish will not be charged for using unprofessional language towards Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger.

The two bosses clashed when the Reds were awarded a penalty deep into stoppage time, with the Frenchman believing that his players had been hard done by the decision, and TV cameras caught the Scot swearing at the Gunners manager.

Manchester United forward Wayne Rooney received a two-match ban for his usage of offensive language into a camera lens, leading to accusations of double standards.

But a spokesman for the FA is quoted by The Mirror as saying: "We are quite clear that the context of the Rooney incident was wholly different to the other recent incidents cited."

Meanwhile, the FA's director of football development, Sir Trevor Brooking, hopes that the issue of swearing and subsequent punishments will be clarified after Dalglish was not charged.

"It was totally different [from Rooney]," he said. "The reaction straight into the camera [from Rooney] was the difference.

"I can understand why the incident at the West Ham match led to action being taken, but in this one unless it was exactly like that, which I gather it wasn't, I don't think there is any comparison.

"Wherever I've been since the Manchester United versus West Ham game I don't think I've met anyone who thought it was anything other than the right decision.

"If anyone is still unsure why the action was taken then we should clarify it so that it's consistent. There has to be a clear understanding. Clarification would help us avoid a continued debate."
 
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