is it safe to assume he is staying seeing as he played yesterday?
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Squiggles
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Yeah, I hope so.
We need some experienced cover at RB and LB.
We need some experienced cover at RB and LB.
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Good thread Spidey. Fucking boss.
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why, thank you 🙂
Good thread Spidey. Fucking boss.
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why, thank you 🙂
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=34869.msg910800#msg910800 date=1248342416]
Yeah, I hope so.
We need some experienced cover at RB and LB.
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and center back. in fact I'd start him over insua at left back who isn't having the best of preseasons.
Yeah, I hope so.
We need some experienced cover at RB and LB.
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and center back. in fact I'd start him over insua at left back who isn't having the best of preseasons.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34869.msg910804#msg910804 date=1248342653]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=34869.msg910800#msg910800 date=1248342416]
Yeah, I hope so.
We need some experienced cover at RB and LB.
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and center back. in fact I'd start him over insua at left back who isn't having the best of preseasons.
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Gerrard isn't having the best of preseasons but I'd still start him.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=34869.msg910800#msg910800 date=1248342416]
Yeah, I hope so.
We need some experienced cover at RB and LB.
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and center back. in fact I'd start him over insua at left back who isn't having the best of preseasons.
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Gerrard isn't having the best of preseasons but I'd still start him.
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34869.msg910804#msg910804 date=1248342653]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=34869.msg910800#msg910800 date=1248342416]
Yeah, I hope so.
We need some experienced cover at RB and LB.
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and center back. in fact I'd start him over insua at left back who isn't having the best of preseasons.
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No centre back, no. He's looked dreadfully out of place when he's played there in the past.
And Insua still has the LB spot to lose.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=34869.msg910800#msg910800 date=1248342416]
Yeah, I hope so.
We need some experienced cover at RB and LB.
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and center back. in fact I'd start him over insua at left back who isn't having the best of preseasons.
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No centre back, no. He's looked dreadfully out of place when he's played there in the past.
And Insua still has the LB spot to lose.
And I recall him having one good game a LB. Oh yes and I think I recall him being taken off at half time on another occasion when he was a disaster at LB
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=34869.msg910820#msg910820 date=1248343556]
And I recall him having one good game a LB. Oh yes and I think I recall him being taken off at half time on another occasion when he was a disaster at LB
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I remember him at left back completely marking messi out of the game.
And I recall him having one good game a LB. Oh yes and I think I recall him being taken off at half time on another occasion when he was a disaster at LB
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I remember him at left back completely marking messi out of the game.
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Squiggles
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Quite.
I might be wrong but I've often thought the 'Arbeloa can play LB' belief is based on very little.
One stellar performance against Messi, and what else?
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=34869.msg910824#msg910824 date=1248343681]
Quite.
I might be wrong but I've often thought the 'Arbeloa can play LB' belief is based on very little.
One stellar performance against Messi, and what else?
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aren't defenders supposed to quietly go about their business unnoticed?
Quite.
I might be wrong but I've often thought the 'Arbeloa can play LB' belief is based on very little.
One stellar performance against Messi, and what else?
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aren't defenders supposed to quietly go about their business unnoticed?
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34869.msg910823#msg910823 date=1248343642]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=34869.msg910820#msg910820 date=1248343556]
And I recall him having one good game a LB. Oh yes and I think I recall him being taken off at half time on another occasion when he was a disaster at LB
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I remember him at left back completely marking messi out of the game.
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Yeah because he is right footed and Messi cut's in like a motherfucker, duh!
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=34869.msg910820#msg910820 date=1248343556]
And I recall him having one good game a LB. Oh yes and I think I recall him being taken off at half time on another occasion when he was a disaster at LB
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I remember him at left back completely marking messi out of the game.
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Yeah because he is right footed and Messi cut's in like a motherfucker, duh!
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=34869.msg910824#msg910824 date=1248343681]
Quite.
I might be wrong but I've often thought the 'Arbeloa can play LB' belief is based on very little.
One stellar performance against Messi, and what else?
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Might not count for much, but that game was his debut for us I think.
Quite.
I might be wrong but I've often thought the 'Arbeloa can play LB' belief is based on very little.
One stellar performance against Messi, and what else?
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Might not count for much, but that game was his debut for us I think.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34869.msg910804#msg910804 date=1248342653]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=34869.msg910800#msg910800 date=1248342416]
Yeah, I hope so.
We need some experienced cover at RB and LB.
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and center back. in fact I'd start him over insua at left back who isn't having the best of preseasons.
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Weird, Defensively Insua was the best I've seen him yesterday.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=34869.msg910800#msg910800 date=1248342416]
Yeah, I hope so.
We need some experienced cover at RB and LB.
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and center back. in fact I'd start him over insua at left back who isn't having the best of preseasons.
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Weird, Defensively Insua was the best I've seen him yesterday.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=34869.msg910824#msg910824 date=1248343681]
Quite.
I might be wrong but I've often thought the 'Arbeloa can play LB' belief is based on very little.
One stellar performance against Messi, and what else?
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Wasn't he playing at LB that time he ran the length of the pitch to score. He's played lots of games there, especially at the start of the season before last. He's solid defensively there.
Quite.
I might be wrong but I've often thought the 'Arbeloa can play LB' belief is based on very little.
One stellar performance against Messi, and what else?
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Wasn't he playing at LB that time he ran the length of the pitch to score. He's played lots of games there, especially at the start of the season before last. He's solid defensively there.
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Squiggles
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Insua was caught on on more than one occasion and Agger had to come across and cover.
That was mainly 'cos of Plessis and Lucas losing in the ball in the middle, but he should have been more cautious after it kept happening. He wasn't near his best yesterday at all.
That was mainly 'cos of Plessis and Lucas losing in the ball in the middle, but he should have been more cautious after it kept happening. He wasn't near his best yesterday at all.
[quote author=Richey link=topic=34869.msg910841#msg910841 date=1248345064]
Has Arbeloa signed a new contract yet or does he still want to leave?
If he wants to go and won't sign then we should be trying to get rid of him rather than thinking of ways to accomodate him in the side out of position at the expense of others.
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I'd write off the money and keep him for a year. we are a couple of injuries away from disaster in regards to the back line.
Has Arbeloa signed a new contract yet or does he still want to leave?
If he wants to go and won't sign then we should be trying to get rid of him rather than thinking of ways to accomodate him in the side out of position at the expense of others.
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I'd write off the money and keep him for a year. we are a couple of injuries away from disaster in regards to the back line.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34869.msg910843#msg910843 date=1248345421]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=34869.msg910841#msg910841 date=1248345064]
Has Arbeloa signed a new contract yet or does he still want to leave?
If he wants to go and won't sign then we should be trying to get rid of him rather than thinking of ways to accomodate him in the side out of position at the expense of others.
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I'd write off the money and keep him for a year. we are a couple of injuries away from disaster in regards to the back line.
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I wouldn't say so really.
In the centre we have Carra, Agger and Skrtel. We would be unlucky if 2 of those got injured at once, though with Agger I guess that is always possible! Not sure what the reserve CBs are like but I am sure one could fill in in an absolute emergency.
On the right we have Glen Johnson, who I suspect will play whenever available, and in reserve we have Arbeloa, Degen and Darby
On the left we have Aurelio, Insua and if we MUST we have Dossena
So if Arbeloa goes our weakest area would be right back, but you can usually get away with less experienced full backs if you have to. Its not like throwing them in in centre back or centre midfield.
If we keep Arbeloa he will go for free next summer. And at that point we will still be in the same position with our defence, as none of whom will have gained any experience because he would have filled in. The only difference is that next summer we won't have the fee for him to do very much about it.
Your plan on this seems very shortsighted
[quote author=Richey link=topic=34869.msg910841#msg910841 date=1248345064]
Has Arbeloa signed a new contract yet or does he still want to leave?
If he wants to go and won't sign then we should be trying to get rid of him rather than thinking of ways to accomodate him in the side out of position at the expense of others.
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I'd write off the money and keep him for a year. we are a couple of injuries away from disaster in regards to the back line.
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I wouldn't say so really.
In the centre we have Carra, Agger and Skrtel. We would be unlucky if 2 of those got injured at once, though with Agger I guess that is always possible! Not sure what the reserve CBs are like but I am sure one could fill in in an absolute emergency.
On the right we have Glen Johnson, who I suspect will play whenever available, and in reserve we have Arbeloa, Degen and Darby
On the left we have Aurelio, Insua and if we MUST we have Dossena
So if Arbeloa goes our weakest area would be right back, but you can usually get away with less experienced full backs if you have to. Its not like throwing them in in centre back or centre midfield.
If we keep Arbeloa he will go for free next summer. And at that point we will still be in the same position with our defence, as none of whom will have gained any experience because he would have filled in. The only difference is that next summer we won't have the fee for him to do very much about it.
Your plan on this seems very shortsighted
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34869.msg910843#msg910843 date=1248345421]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=34869.msg910841#msg910841 date=1248345064]
Has Arbeloa signed a new contract yet or does he still want to leave?
If he wants to go and won't sign then we should be trying to get rid of him rather than thinking of ways to accomodate him in the side out of position at the expense of others.
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I'd write off the money and keep him for a year. we are a couple of injuries away from disaster in regards to the back line.
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I wouldn't say so really.
In the centre we have Carra, Agger and Skrtel. We would be unlucky if 2 of those got injured at once, though with Agger I guess that is always possible! Not sure what the reserve CBs are like but I am sure one could fill in in an absolute emergency.
On the right we have Glen Johnson, who I suspect will play whenever available, and in reserve we have Arbeloa, Degen and Darby
On the left we have Aurelio, Insua and if we MUST we have Dossena
So if Arbeloa goes our weakest area would be right back, but you can usually get away with less experienced full backs if you have to. Its not like throwing them in in centre back or centre midfield.
If we keep Arbeloa he will go for free next summer. And at that point we will still be in the same position with our defence, as none of whom will have gained any experience because he would have filled in. The only difference is that next summer we won't have the fee for him to do very much about it.
Your plan on this seems very shortsighted
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It will only seem short-sighted until you get into a CL 1/4 final and have a choice between Degen and Darby 😛
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34869.msg910843#msg910843 date=1248345421]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=34869.msg910841#msg910841 date=1248345064]
Has Arbeloa signed a new contract yet or does he still want to leave?
If he wants to go and won't sign then we should be trying to get rid of him rather than thinking of ways to accomodate him in the side out of position at the expense of others.
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I'd write off the money and keep him for a year. we are a couple of injuries away from disaster in regards to the back line.
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I wouldn't say so really.
In the centre we have Carra, Agger and Skrtel. We would be unlucky if 2 of those got injured at once, though with Agger I guess that is always possible! Not sure what the reserve CBs are like but I am sure one could fill in in an absolute emergency.
On the right we have Glen Johnson, who I suspect will play whenever available, and in reserve we have Arbeloa, Degen and Darby
On the left we have Aurelio, Insua and if we MUST we have Dossena
So if Arbeloa goes our weakest area would be right back, but you can usually get away with less experienced full backs if you have to. Its not like throwing them in in centre back or centre midfield.
If we keep Arbeloa he will go for free next summer. And at that point we will still be in the same position with our defence, as none of whom will have gained any experience because he would have filled in. The only difference is that next summer we won't have the fee for him to do very much about it.
Your plan on this seems very shortsighted
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It will only seem short-sighted until you get into a CL 1/4 final and have a choice between Degen and Darby 😛
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[quote author=Richey link=topic=34869.msg910852#msg910852 date=1248346298]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34869.msg910843#msg910843 date=1248345421]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=34869.msg910841#msg910841 date=1248345064]
Has Arbeloa signed a new contract yet or does he still want to leave?
If he wants to go and won't sign then we should be trying to get rid of him rather than thinking of ways to accomodate him in the side out of position at the expense of others.
[/quote]
I'd write off the money and keep him for a year. we are a couple of injuries away from disaster in regards to the back line.
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I wouldn't say so really.
In the centre we have Carra, Agger and Skrtel. We would be unlucky if 2 of those got injured at once, though with Agger I guess that is always possible! Not sure what the reserve CBs are like but I am sure one could fill in in an absolute emergency.
On the right we have Glen Johnson, who I suspect will play whenever available, and in reserve we have Arbeloa, Degen and Darby
On the left we have Aurelio, Insua and if we MUST we have Dossena
So if Arbeloa goes our weakest area would be right back, but you can usually get away with less experienced full backs if you have to. Its not like throwing them in in centre back or centre midfield.
If we keep Arbeloa he will go for free next summer. And at that point we will still be in the same position with our defence, as none of whom will have gained any experience because he would have filled in. The only difference is that next summer we won't have the fee for him to do very much about it.
Your plan on this seems very shortsighted
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It will only seem short-sighted until you get into a CL 1/4 final and have a choice between Degen and Darby 😛
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Which would only happen if we were unfortunate enough to have both Carragher and Johnson injured or suspended
[quote author=Richey link=topic=34869.msg910852#msg910852 date=1248346298]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34869.msg910843#msg910843 date=1248345421]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=34869.msg910841#msg910841 date=1248345064]
Has Arbeloa signed a new contract yet or does he still want to leave?
If he wants to go and won't sign then we should be trying to get rid of him rather than thinking of ways to accomodate him in the side out of position at the expense of others.
[/quote]
I'd write off the money and keep him for a year. we are a couple of injuries away from disaster in regards to the back line.
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I wouldn't say so really.
In the centre we have Carra, Agger and Skrtel. We would be unlucky if 2 of those got injured at once, though with Agger I guess that is always possible! Not sure what the reserve CBs are like but I am sure one could fill in in an absolute emergency.
On the right we have Glen Johnson, who I suspect will play whenever available, and in reserve we have Arbeloa, Degen and Darby
On the left we have Aurelio, Insua and if we MUST we have Dossena
So if Arbeloa goes our weakest area would be right back, but you can usually get away with less experienced full backs if you have to. Its not like throwing them in in centre back or centre midfield.
If we keep Arbeloa he will go for free next summer. And at that point we will still be in the same position with our defence, as none of whom will have gained any experience because he would have filled in. The only difference is that next summer we won't have the fee for him to do very much about it.
Your plan on this seems very shortsighted
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It will only seem short-sighted until you get into a CL 1/4 final and have a choice between Degen and Darby 😛
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Which would only happen if we were unfortunate enough to have both Carragher and Johnson injured or suspended
[quote author=Richey link=topic=34869.msg910852#msg910852 date=1248346298]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34869.msg910843#msg910843 date=1248345421]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=34869.msg910841#msg910841 date=1248345064]
Has Arbeloa signed a new contract yet or does he still want to leave?
If he wants to go and won't sign then we should be trying to get rid of him rather than thinking of ways to accomodate him in the side out of position at the expense of others.
[/quote]
I'd write off the money and keep him for a year. we are a couple of injuries away from disaster in regards to the back line.
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I wouldn't say so really.
In the centre we have Carra, Agger and Skrtel. We would be unlucky if 2 of those got injured at once, though with Agger I guess that is always possible! Not sure what the reserve CBs are like but I am sure one could fill in in an absolute emergency.
On the right we have Glen Johnson, who I suspect will play whenever available, and in reserve we have Arbeloa, Degen and Darby
On the left we have Aurelio, Insua and if we MUST we have Dossena
So if Arbeloa goes our weakest area would be right back, but you can usually get away with less experienced full backs if you have to. Its not like throwing them in in centre back or centre midfield.
If we keep Arbeloa he will go for free next summer. And at that point we will still be in the same position with our defence, as none of whom will have gained any experience because he would have filled in. The only difference is that next summer we won't have the fee for him to do very much about it.
Your plan on this seems very shortsighted
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Whilst I am certainly not advocating Arbeloa for CB, one of three you mentioned was injured yesterday and it wasnt Agger
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34869.msg910843#msg910843 date=1248345421]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=34869.msg910841#msg910841 date=1248345064]
Has Arbeloa signed a new contract yet or does he still want to leave?
If he wants to go and won't sign then we should be trying to get rid of him rather than thinking of ways to accomodate him in the side out of position at the expense of others.
[/quote]
I'd write off the money and keep him for a year. we are a couple of injuries away from disaster in regards to the back line.
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I wouldn't say so really.
In the centre we have Carra, Agger and Skrtel. We would be unlucky if 2 of those got injured at once, though with Agger I guess that is always possible! Not sure what the reserve CBs are like but I am sure one could fill in in an absolute emergency.
On the right we have Glen Johnson, who I suspect will play whenever available, and in reserve we have Arbeloa, Degen and Darby
On the left we have Aurelio, Insua and if we MUST we have Dossena
So if Arbeloa goes our weakest area would be right back, but you can usually get away with less experienced full backs if you have to. Its not like throwing them in in centre back or centre midfield.
If we keep Arbeloa he will go for free next summer. And at that point we will still be in the same position with our defence, as none of whom will have gained any experience because he would have filled in. The only difference is that next summer we won't have the fee for him to do very much about it.
Your plan on this seems very shortsighted
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Whilst I am certainly not advocating Arbeloa for CB, one of three you mentioned was injured yesterday and it wasnt Agger
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Squiggles
Guest
If the offer's going to be around £2-3M I'd rather he stayed.
If it's around the £6-8M mark we should sell.
If it's around the £6-8M mark we should sell.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=34869.msg910866#msg910866 date=1248348264]
If the offer's going to be around £2-3M I'd rather he stayed.
If it's around the £6-8M mark we should sell.
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What if it's £4-5M? 8)
If the offer's going to be around £2-3M I'd rather he stayed.
If it's around the £6-8M mark we should sell.
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What if it's £4-5M? 8)
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=34869.msg910863#msg910863 date=1248348062]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=34869.msg910852#msg910852 date=1248346298]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34869.msg910843#msg910843 date=1248345421]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=34869.msg910841#msg910841 date=1248345064]
Has Arbeloa signed a new contract yet or does he still want to leave?
If he wants to go and won't sign then we should be trying to get rid of him rather than thinking of ways to accomodate him in the side out of position at the expense of others.
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I'd write off the money and keep him for a year. we are a couple of injuries away from disaster in regards to the back line.
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I wouldn't say so really.
In the centre we have Carra, Agger and Skrtel. We would be unlucky if 2 of those got injured at once, though with Agger I guess that is always possible! Not sure what the reserve CBs are like but I am sure one could fill in in an absolute emergency.
On the right we have Glen Johnson, who I suspect will play whenever available, and in reserve we have Arbeloa, Degen and Darby
On the left we have Aurelio, Insua and if we MUST we have Dossena
So if Arbeloa goes our weakest area would be right back, but you can usually get away with less experienced full backs if you have to. Its not like throwing them in in centre back or centre midfield.
If we keep Arbeloa he will go for free next summer. And at that point we will still be in the same position with our defence, as none of whom will have gained any experience because he would have filled in. The only difference is that next summer we won't have the fee for him to do very much about it.
Your plan on this seems very shortsighted
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Whilst I am certainly not advocating Arbeloa for CB, one of three you mentioned was injured yesterday and it wasnt Agger
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And if that is a problem would it not therefore be best to get rid of someone who wants to leave, isn't a particularly good centre back, isn't really desperately needed elsewhere and spend the money on cover in the centre?
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34869.msg910843#msg910843 date=1248345421]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=34869.msg910841#msg910841 date=1248345064]
Has Arbeloa signed a new contract yet or does he still want to leave?
If he wants to go and won't sign then we should be trying to get rid of him rather than thinking of ways to accomodate him in the side out of position at the expense of others.
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I'd write off the money and keep him for a year. we are a couple of injuries away from disaster in regards to the back line.
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I wouldn't say so really.
In the centre we have Carra, Agger and Skrtel. We would be unlucky if 2 of those got injured at once, though with Agger I guess that is always possible! Not sure what the reserve CBs are like but I am sure one could fill in in an absolute emergency.
On the right we have Glen Johnson, who I suspect will play whenever available, and in reserve we have Arbeloa, Degen and Darby
On the left we have Aurelio, Insua and if we MUST we have Dossena
So if Arbeloa goes our weakest area would be right back, but you can usually get away with less experienced full backs if you have to. Its not like throwing them in in centre back or centre midfield.
If we keep Arbeloa he will go for free next summer. And at that point we will still be in the same position with our defence, as none of whom will have gained any experience because he would have filled in. The only difference is that next summer we won't have the fee for him to do very much about it.
Your plan on this seems very shortsighted
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Whilst I am certainly not advocating Arbeloa for CB, one of three you mentioned was injured yesterday and it wasnt Agger
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And if that is a problem would it not therefore be best to get rid of someone who wants to leave, isn't a particularly good centre back, isn't really desperately needed elsewhere and spend the money on cover in the centre?
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[quote author=Richey link=topic=34869.msg910852#msg910852 date=1248346298]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=34869.msg910843#msg910843 date=1248345421]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=34869.msg910841#msg910841 date=1248345064]
Has Arbeloa signed a new contract yet or does he still want to leave?
If he wants to go and won't sign then we should be trying to get rid of him rather than thinking of ways to accomodate him in the side out of position at the expense of others.
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I'd write off the money and keep him for a year. we are a couple of injuries away from disaster in regards to the back line.
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I wouldn't say so really.
In the centre we have Carra, Agger and Skrtel. We would be unlucky if 2 of those got injured at once, though with Agger I guess that is always possible! Not sure what the reserve CBs are like but I am sure one could fill in in an absolute emergency.
On the right we have Glen Johnson, who I suspect will play whenever available, and in reserve we have Arbeloa, Degen and Darby
On the left we have Aurelio, Insua and if we MUST we have Dossena
So if Arbeloa goes our weakest area would be right back, but you can usually get away with less experienced full backs if you have to. Its not like throwing them in in centre back or centre midfield.
If we keep Arbeloa he will go for free next summer. And at that point we will still be in the same position with our defence, as none of whom will have gained any experience because he would have filled in. The only difference is that next summer we won't have the fee for him to do very much about it.
Your plan on this seems very shortsighted
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It will only seem short-sighted until you get into a CL 1/4 final and have a choice between Degen and Darby 😛
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Which would only happen if we were unfortunate enough to have both Carragher and Johnson injured or suspended
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Or Agger was out for 1/2 a season like last season. Or Skrtel was out for a few months like last year. Or they picked up a couple of bookings like Mascherano did last year.
It's a 4m euro insurance policy having seen Degen, Darby in action, i'd take it.
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Has Arbeloa signed a new contract yet or does he still want to leave?
If he wants to go and won't sign then we should be trying to get rid of him rather than thinking of ways to accomodate him in the side out of position at the expense of others.
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I'd write off the money and keep him for a year. we are a couple of injuries away from disaster in regards to the back line.
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I wouldn't say so really.
In the centre we have Carra, Agger and Skrtel. We would be unlucky if 2 of those got injured at once, though with Agger I guess that is always possible! Not sure what the reserve CBs are like but I am sure one could fill in in an absolute emergency.
On the right we have Glen Johnson, who I suspect will play whenever available, and in reserve we have Arbeloa, Degen and Darby
On the left we have Aurelio, Insua and if we MUST we have Dossena
So if Arbeloa goes our weakest area would be right back, but you can usually get away with less experienced full backs if you have to. Its not like throwing them in in centre back or centre midfield.
If we keep Arbeloa he will go for free next summer. And at that point we will still be in the same position with our defence, as none of whom will have gained any experience because he would have filled in. The only difference is that next summer we won't have the fee for him to do very much about it.
Your plan on this seems very shortsighted
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It will only seem short-sighted until you get into a CL 1/4 final and have a choice between Degen and Darby 😛
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Which would only happen if we were unfortunate enough to have both Carragher and Johnson injured or suspended
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Or Agger was out for 1/2 a season like last season. Or Skrtel was out for a few months like last year. Or they picked up a couple of bookings like Mascherano did last year.
It's a 4m euro insurance policy having seen Degen, Darby in action, i'd take it.
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If the offer's going to be around £2-3M I'd rather he stayed.
If it's around the £6-8M mark we should sell.
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What if it's £4-5M? 8)
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I'd be inclined to keep unless we had someone lined up to come in and compete with Johnson.
Degen doesn't look very impressive at all.
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If the offer's going to be around £2-3M I'd rather he stayed.
If it's around the £6-8M mark we should sell.
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What if it's £4-5M? 8)
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I'd be inclined to keep unless we had someone lined up to come in and compete with Johnson.
Degen doesn't look very impressive at all.
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If the offer's going to be around £2-3M I'd rather he stayed.
If it's around the £6-8M mark we should sell.
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Would you pay £2-3M to take a back up right back on loan for a year? That is essentially what we would be doing
If the offer's going to be around £2-3M I'd rather he stayed.
If it's around the £6-8M mark we should sell.
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Would you pay £2-3M to take a back up right back on loan for a year? That is essentially what we would be doing
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Has Arbeloa signed a new contract yet or does he still want to leave?
If he wants to go and won't sign then we should be trying to get rid of him rather than thinking of ways to accomodate him in the side out of position at the expense of others.
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I'd write off the money and keep him for a year. we are a couple of injuries away from disaster in regards to the back line.
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I wouldn't say so really.
In the centre we have Carra, Agger and Skrtel. We would be unlucky if 2 of those got injured at once, though with Agger I guess that is always possible! Not sure what the reserve CBs are like but I am sure one could fill in in an absolute emergency.
On the right we have Glen Johnson, who I suspect will play whenever available, and in reserve we have Arbeloa, Degen and Darby
On the left we have Aurelio, Insua and if we MUST we have Dossena
So if Arbeloa goes our weakest area would be right back, but you can usually get away with less experienced full backs if you have to. Its not like throwing them in in centre back or centre midfield.
If we keep Arbeloa he will go for free next summer. And at that point we will still be in the same position with our defence, as none of whom will have gained any experience because he would have filled in. The only difference is that next summer we won't have the fee for him to do very much about it.
Your plan on this seems very shortsighted
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Whilst I am certainly not advocating Arbeloa for CB, one of three you mentioned was injured yesterday and it wasnt Agger
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And if that is a problem would it not therefore be best to get rid of someone who wants to leave, isn't a particularly good centre back, isn't really desperately needed elsewhere and spend the money on cover in the centre?
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I think your post, if you read it back, was suggesting that we didnt need CB cover. And as I said Im certainly NOT suggesting that Arbeloa be used as a CB. I still have nightmares about his last appearance there.
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Has Arbeloa signed a new contract yet or does he still want to leave?
If he wants to go and won't sign then we should be trying to get rid of him rather than thinking of ways to accomodate him in the side out of position at the expense of others.
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I'd write off the money and keep him for a year. we are a couple of injuries away from disaster in regards to the back line.
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I wouldn't say so really.
In the centre we have Carra, Agger and Skrtel. We would be unlucky if 2 of those got injured at once, though with Agger I guess that is always possible! Not sure what the reserve CBs are like but I am sure one could fill in in an absolute emergency.
On the right we have Glen Johnson, who I suspect will play whenever available, and in reserve we have Arbeloa, Degen and Darby
On the left we have Aurelio, Insua and if we MUST we have Dossena
So if Arbeloa goes our weakest area would be right back, but you can usually get away with less experienced full backs if you have to. Its not like throwing them in in centre back or centre midfield.
If we keep Arbeloa he will go for free next summer. And at that point we will still be in the same position with our defence, as none of whom will have gained any experience because he would have filled in. The only difference is that next summer we won't have the fee for him to do very much about it.
Your plan on this seems very shortsighted
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Whilst I am certainly not advocating Arbeloa for CB, one of three you mentioned was injured yesterday and it wasnt Agger
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And if that is a problem would it not therefore be best to get rid of someone who wants to leave, isn't a particularly good centre back, isn't really desperately needed elsewhere and spend the money on cover in the centre?
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I think your post, if you read it back, was suggesting that we didnt need CB cover. And as I said Im certainly NOT suggesting that Arbeloa be used as a CB. I still have nightmares about his last appearance there.
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