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I do agree with the bit about Zoopla know that this is the way to maximise their publicity. I had never heard of them and would have been unlikely to notice them as a sponsor of West Brom.
 
I do agree with the bit about Zoopla know that this is the way to maximise their publicity. I had never heard of them and would have been unlikely to notice them as a sponsor of West Brom.

I still don't know who they are tbh! They're just getting more press ...
 
I still don't know who they are tbh! They're just getting more press ...

One of the co-owners is Jewish so it is possible that they are making a principled stand but I think the increase in publicity is the major factor myself.

Here is a list of their previous sponsors going back to 1981. The only ones I recognise are T Mobile and "No Smoking". They do not seem to have found one for 2009.

1981 - 1982


1982 - 1984




1984 - 1986




1986 - 1990




1990 - 1993




1993 - 1994




1994 - 1997




1997 - 2004




2004 - 2008




2010 - 2011




2011 - 2012




2012 - present


 
The Jewish co-owner part was something that was mentioned very early on ... I'm sure that's part of it, but I just think they're probably making a business decision and milking it.
 
In line with the new anti racism rulings, it's a fresh case without precedent, apparently 🙄 Amazing really, that they've only just recently dished out a hefty ban for racist behaviour, but then chose to review the procedure and put in place a 5 game ban, 3 games less than the precedent already put in place.

I'm totally shocked at this turnaround.
 
In line with the new anti racism rulings, it's a fresh case without precedent, apparently 🙄 Amazing really, that they've only just recently dished out a hefty ban for racist behaviour, but then chose to review the procedure and put in place a 5 game ban, 3 games less than the precedent already put in place.

I'm totally shocked at this turnaround.

Why is the 8 game ban to Suarez the precedent and not the 4 game ban to Terry ?
 
Why is the 8 game ban to Suarez the precedent and not the 4 game ban to Terry ?

It's still wrong isn't it, 4,8,5. No consistency, but we've said this loads of times and you choose to label everyone paranoid or whatever.
 
@Rosco you miss my point.
I'm no lawyer and we're not in court (I think I mentioned it to you on the other thread 😉).

I'm just saying that it makes sense to me that since Anelka is charged of making "a gesture which was abusive and/or indecent and/or insulting and/or improper ... that it included a reference to ethnic origin and/or race and/or religion or belief." which is pretty similar to what Suarez was charged and got punished for, then the penalty should be about the same.

I'm not trying to win a legal battle here, nor am I arguing with you. I'm simply pointing at something which looks sensible to me.
I'm sure that you are correct as far as the law is concerned.
And BTW, unfortunately sometimes the verdicts and punishments by courts do not make sense to me, although I'm pretty sure they are legal.

Bottom line - I hope Anelka gets a severe punishment for what he did. This way he may also miss their game against us which cannot be a bad thing...

There's a surprise.
 
Suarez is innocent,

but in fairness he was innocent multiple times which was why he got a longer ban than Terry who was only guilty once.
 
I saw the sign made by 'the leader' himself, it was right hand over the heart.

Anelka did a sort of open left hand on his arm, nothing at all like the salute?


He's stated it was in support of a controversial french comedian he's the french Bernard Manning apparently.
 
It's still wrong isn't it, 4,8,5. No consistency, but we've said this loads of times and you choose to label everyone paranoid or whatever.

Not paranoid, just totally unwilling to look at the detail and see why there are differences.

Every incident needs to be judged on its own merits. Not by some strict rule not open to interpretation, which will cause more injustice.

If you were to argue there was a precedent to follow when Anelka is being charged under this new rule then you would have to think the precedent was the 4 game ban for one solitary offence, rather than the 8 game ban Suarez got for repeating something 7 times - since Anelka only made one gesture.

Wouldn't that make sense ?

This new rule has brought in a 5 game minimum as a ban.

We don't know the outcome, so it seems premature to moan about the FA disciplinary process.
 


http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/romelu-lukaku-supports-nicolas-anelka-6535009

[article]Lukaku says don't ban Anelka over quenelle row in video on Everton website
21 Jan 2014 15:44
Sky interview where striker discusses gesture has been taken down by Blues

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Everton's Romelu Lukaku and West Bromwich Albion's Nicolas AnelkaEverton's Romelu Lukaku and West Bromwich Albion's Nicolas Anelka
Everton FC striker Romelu Lukaku has called for Nicolas Anelka not to be banned over using the controversial "quenelle" sign.

Speaking after last night’s 1-1 between Everton and West Brom, the Belgian striker gave his backing to the under-fire player, who has been accused of making the anti-semitic gesture.

Lukaku said: "He was my idol since I was a kid, and still is.

"He shouldn’t be banned for that. He just supported a stand-up comedian in France, so we don’t have to make such a big deal about it.

"He's an adult and I hope he doesn’t get suspended because he’s a player people want to see play on the pitch."

Everton have since pulled the video from their website.

Director of communications at Everton Alan Myers said the interview was filmed by Sky and automatically uploaded to the club's website.

He said: "It is the player's opinion. It is not the opinion held by the club, however the player was asked the question and answered it.

"What we did as soon as we knew about it was take it down from the website immediately because the last thing we would wanted to do was cause any offence to anybody."

The quenelle has been described as an inverted Nazi salute, and was created by French comedian Dieudonne M’Bala M’Bala, who has been prosecuted for anti-Semitism.

Anelka is a friend of Dieudonne’s and the player has insisted his salute was a gesture of support and aimed at the French establishment.

Anelka has denied the salute was anti-Semitic, but Jewish groups say if the charge is proved then the 32-year-old’s lack of contrition should lead to an even more severe sanction than the five-match ban introduced by the FA this season as a minimum punishment for aggravated offences relating to ethnic origin, race or religion.[/article]
 
Lukaku has defended Anelka's gesture saying it was just a show of support.

I SAY BAN THE BELGIAN MADAFAKKARRR



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We're just showing our support, f'quenelle!
 
I just got half way through an outraged letter to Chang before I realised that a Thai beer company is unlikely to give a fuck about racism.

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"A stand up comedian in France' Lukaku eh? You mean a anti-semitic, holocaust denying twat who's been sued numerous for the hatred he spews? Yes Lukaku, just another comedian.
 
Not paranoid, just totally unwilling to look at the detail and see why there are differences.

Every incident needs to be judged on its own merits. Not by some strict rule not open to interpretation, which will cause more injustice.

If you were to argue there was a precedent to follow when Anelka is being charged under this new rule then you would have to think the precedent was the 4 game ban for one solitary offence, rather than the 8 game ban Suarez got for repeating something 7 times - since Anelka only made one gesture.

Wouldn't that make sense ?

This new rule has brought in a 5 game minimum as a ban.

We don't know the outcome, so it seems premature to moan about the FA disciplinary process.
There is also a difference in that Anelka's gesture was very public and was presumably done for a wide audience (everyone at the stadium & TV audiences) while Saint Louis' indiscretion was witnessed only by Evra and the guilty Terry's insult, while visible to an audience, was intended only for Ferdinand.

So Anelka should have a 4 game ban for every one in the audience, and Gaybo should hand it out personally
 
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