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Andy Carroll In Danger Yo !
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Higuain?
Do we really know his lifestyle was bad here? And good coaches don't kick out players with beasts inside of them, they unleash the beasts.
So he's a bad coach now?
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in fairness to carroll, the prospect of playing for Big Sam at West Ham in a relegation battle is not exactly appealing .
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dalglish ? he couldn't get much out of carroll in 18 months and didn't trust him fully .
No, but I find it really puzzling and depressing at his haste to get rid given the fact he's well-qualified to get the best out of players. Why would someone who DID rate Rodgers as a coach NOT feel like that?
Allardyce, who guided West Ham back into the English top flight via the Championship play-offs last season, has now all but ruled out United’s chances of landing the 23-year-old.
“I would probably have stuck my neck out and said we would almost certainly stay up with him on board,” Allardyce said.
“We wouldn’t have thought we would have had any chance of signing a player of Andy Carroll’s capabilities but it became clear a couple of weeks ago there was a possibility of a loan. Unfortunately at this moment, it’s not the case.”
“I would probably have stuck my neck out and said we would almost certainly stay up with him on board,” Allardyce said.
“We wouldn’t have thought we would have had any chance of signing a player of Andy Carroll’s capabilities but it became clear a couple of weeks ago there was a possibility of a loan. Unfortunately at this moment, it’s not the case.”
I don't think this has ever been about his lifestyle or how good a player he is, I think people are looking for stuff that's not there. We need to reduce the wage bill, as reported we're looking at Dempsey, so that would mean the preferred front three is Borini, Suarez and Dempsey (otherwise, why spend the money?) with Carroll on the bench for the most part. I know we play alot of game, but when we've got two starting strikers that cost probably about half of Carroll's fee combined, there's no justification for having a £35m player (what he cost anyway) on the bench eating up £80k per week in wages. It's pointless. We may aswell take the cash and spend it on another postition that needs strengthening.
I do like Carroll, I do rate him too, this has always been about boardroom politics, balancing the books and nothing more.
I do like Carroll, I do rate him too, this has always been about boardroom politics, balancing the books and nothing more.
I agree with that. I just think the idea that he would have to be on the bench, at best, even if Rodgers had the chance to work with him, seriously and intensively, is dubious. If Rodgers did work with him I think he'd be a gem - dangerous and productive on the pitch, increasingly valuable off it. Instead of that FSG are just making a short-term business decision. There's a logic to it, short term, but I think it's a waste in the longer term, and a terrible shame in football terms.
That makes a lot of sense. However one needs more that a first 11 squad these days. You need a first 16 or thereabouts at least. One or two injuries and we're fucked if we're not careful.
Agreed mate, and as Eric said, beyond the front three we're going to be short. Dempsey can play left and can fill the Gerrard role too, so ideally we could do with a few options. Maybe that's where this potential loan (or two) comes in.
I think they fsg r looking at 35m spent and a return of 11 goals or something and productive play of just 2 nobths since joining us and being here. what that translate to is useless striker and waste if money. if he wsd foreign most of u would not give the time of day - it would be a case of get rid.
What, like Acqua??? I refer you to the thread of many pages!
I think this whole story's just been made up by the media on the back of one slightly ambiguous press conference by Rodgers. It's clear that there's absolutely no way we're looking to sell him!
I think the reason's simple.
Rodgers wanted several players. He was given a budget that could only land a couple of players, being told that anything extra can come from the sale of players.
He looked at all the non-vital players, saw that Carroll would fetch the highest fee so chose him as the source of his extra transfer budget.
I'd sooner he sold Adam, Downing, Spearing and Henderson first (they'd fetch a combined total of more than Carroll currently), but he was probably expecting a couple of teams to put solid bids in straight away.
Rodgers wanted several players. He was given a budget that could only land a couple of players, being told that anything extra can come from the sale of players.
He looked at all the non-vital players, saw that Carroll would fetch the highest fee so chose him as the source of his extra transfer budget.
I'd sooner he sold Adam, Downing, Spearing and Henderson first (they'd fetch a combined total of more than Carroll currently), but he was probably expecting a couple of teams to put solid bids in straight away.
I presume that is sarcasm Pierre, when I said exactly the same thing about 60 pages ago, you had a right pop at me I am sure you remember....
"Fucking hell man, I can't believe you're sticking doggedly to this line. It's so painfully obvious that he's for sale it's really pretty laughable you refuse to see it. And to accuse others of clinging to an improbable theory! Bizarre."
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Sarcasm?! I am *shocked*!!
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Don't sell Carroll.
peter seems to think that more media bollocks since then somehow proves it's not bollocks. Or something.
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great , we're stuck with him .
If he's motivated, perhaps he'll be ok? I guess I'm grasping at straws.
"Andrew" Carroll? What's with the "Sunday best" name all of a sudden?
I'm glad he's staying. It's not as if we're signing many players so the more in the squad, the better for us.
Let us all collectively grasp the straw together! Except for some who would break that straw immediately.
I'd wager it some really shit attempt at giving credibility to this ESPN insider...... "He even calls him Andrew!"
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