Young

[Akakabooto]

[quote author=KHL link=topic=43687.msg1255834#msg1255834 date=1295355554]

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Ok, £15m but that's my final offer!

 

[rurikbird]

I like how we seem to have multiple targets at once, even though I am sure we are in the market for only one winger (at least 10+ million one). That's great for leverage when negotiating with the selling club - you don't lower your valuation of Suarez? No problem, we'll get Young instead. Or vice versa (although I hope it's the former). Nobody except Comolli, Kenny and the owners knows which one is the real target and which one is the decoy. If you put all eggs in one basket, you can easily be held hostage by the seller.

 

[TheBunnyman]

Suarez is a striker, and Young's a winger. I would think we're genuinely interested in both.

Though whether we can afford both is another matter...

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=43687.msg1255937#msg1255937 date=1295361482]
Suarez is a striker, and Young's a winger. I would think we're genuinely interested in both.

Though whether we can afford both is another matter...
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the yanks should see it as an excerise in safe guarding their investment i.e. the new recruites will help stave off a relegation battle...

 

[DHSC]

[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=43687.msg1255937#msg1255937 date=1295361482]
Suarez is a striker, and Young's a winger. I would think we're genuinely interested in both.

Though whether we can afford both is another matter...
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I actually think we can. I think FSG would be willing to splash the cash if they really want to.

 

[the count]

I suppose it depends on what Kenny sees as the predominant team formation going forward as to whether Young would be a success or not.
If he were to play his former favoured formation of 4-1-4-1 then I can see a place for Young in the line up, but not Suarez.
A continuation of the in vogue 4-2-3-1 would suit Suarez but not Young, while I guess the good old fashioned 4-4-2 would potentially suit them both.

 

[RolandG]

I'd love to have Young flying down the wing.

His pace in attack with be a huge asset!

 

[rurikbird]

I think in the modern game it's rare that a player is bought with a specific formation in mind. Unless you are a team like Barcelona, where the "system" is more important than any individual. Usually clubs buy the best players they can get and coaches are expected to adjust their tactics and formations depending on which players they have at their disposal. So in that sense Suarez and Young are interchangeable. My prediction is that if we do, hopefully, get one of them, we will probably cool the interest in the other.

If we get Suarez, we might still get a cheaper winger though, like N'Zogbia.

 

[Oncy]

Adam Johnson is much better than Ashley Young imho.

 

[vikas]

Even though he hasn't quite developed at the rate he first started when at Villa, lets make no mistake about it, Ashley Young would increase the potency of our attack a substantial amount. Anything upto £15m is definately worth it for a fairly young 'n pacey (enough) winger, with quality on the ball, ability to operate on either side, good delivery, a mean set-piece and the wee bonus of being English.

 

[doctor_mac]

There's no way Young will be sold for 15M. Unless he only has a short contract.

 

[RolandG]

Doc, doesn't Young only have 18 months left and has refused to even discuss an extension until the summer?

 

[doctor_mac]

There's every chance Young will go for 15M.

 

[Skullflower]

[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=43687.msg1256004#msg1256004 date=1295365213]
There's every chance Young will go for 15M.
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agreed. that's what he's worth at most.

 

[Dancing Brave]

Press conference on SKY, Houllier just said that Young & Downing will DEFINITELY not be leaving in this transfer window and there have been no bids.

 

[Oncy]

[quote author=Dancing Brave link=topic=43687.msg1256295#msg1256295 date=1295379111]
Press conference on SKY, Houllier just said that Young & Downing will DEFINITELY not be leaving in this transfer window and there have been no bids.
[/quote]Yeah. Im not dissappointed to be honest.
I dont think either are right for us.
I'd love Adam Johnson.......and a striker......a CB......a quality DM........a LB..........meh thats all.

 

[Buddha]

We're surely going to be in for N'Zogbia at around 8/9m? He'd be an excellent buy for us at that level.

 

[Squiggles]

Wigan will want £12-14M I reckon.

 

[Hansern]

Doesn't he have 18 months left on his contract aswell? And Wigan accepted 9 mill this summer.

 

[RolandG]

Get Nzogbia for £9M who is just as good if not better. Use another £4M for Taiwo and our left side is sorted.

 

[Fabio]

[quote author=RolandG link=topic=43687.msg1256345#msg1256345 date=1295383563]
Get Nzogbia for £9M who is just as good if not better. Use another £4M for Taiwo and our left side is sorted.
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This

 

[ibromurph]

N'Zogbia - yes (talented nutter though he is).
Taiwo - no, no, no (he's 45 and a bit shite).

 

[Dreambeliever]

[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=43687.msg1255611#msg1255611 date=1295347046]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=43687.msg1255609#msg1255609 date=1295346850]
I'd love Young in front of Kelly.
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I always thought Young was a left winger....shows how much i know.
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He has played there for Villa but I hate seeing right footers on the left wing.

 

[El Pistolero]

I really don't get the big thing for N'Zogbia. Never rated him to be honest, plus he's a moody bastard.

 

[rurikbird]

[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=43687.msg1256299#msg1256299 date=1295379498]
[quote author=Dancing Brave link=topic=43687.msg1256295#msg1256295 date=1295379111]
Press conference on SKY, Houllier just said that Young & Downing will DEFINITELY not be leaving in this transfer window and there have been no bids.
[/quote]Yeah. Im not dissappointed to be honest.
I dont think either are right for us.
I'd love Adam Johnson.......and a striker......a CB......a quality DM........a LB..........meh thats all.
[/quote]

A perfect winter:

Suarez
Adam Johnson
Mertesacker
Coentrao

 

[Oncy]

[quote author=rurikbird link=topic=43687.msg1256573#msg1256573 date=1295398804]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=43687.msg1256299#msg1256299 date=1295379498]
[quote author=Dancing Brave link=topic=43687.msg1256295#msg1256295 date=1295379111]
Press conference on SKY, Houllier just said that Young & Downing will DEFINITELY not be leaving in this transfer window and there have been no bids.
[/quote]Yeah. Im not dissappointed to be honest.
I dont think either are right for us.
I'd love Adam Johnson.......and a striker......a CB......a quality DM........a LB..........meh thats all.
[/quote]

A perfect winter:

Suarez
Adam Johnson
Mertesacker
Coentrao
[/quote]Sadly no. Wed still have no DM.

 

[Ryan]

[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=43687.msg1256569#msg1256569 date=1295397922]
[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=43687.msg1255611#msg1255611 date=1295347046]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=43687.msg1255609#msg1255609 date=1295346850]
I'd love Young in front of Kelly.
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I always thought Young was a left winger....shows how much i know.
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He has played there for Villa but I hate seeing right footers on the left wing.


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Correction; he plays there for Villa.

 

[DHSC]

Sorry; but why would City sell Adam Johnson to us?

 

[Squiggles]

[quote author=DHSC link=topic=43687.msg1256605#msg1256605 date=1295404256]
Sorry; but why would City sell Adam Johnson to us?
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Because we're in no way a rival to them?

 

[DHSC]

[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=43687.msg1256613#msg1256613 date=1295406334]
[quote author=DHSC link=topic=43687.msg1256605#msg1256605 date=1295404256]
Sorry; but why would City sell Adam Johnson to us?
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Because we're in no way a rival to them?
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Ha yeah that's true.

But Johnson is a good player, and it's not like he has been frozen out like SWP or Bridge. I'm coming more from the angle that Johnson is potentially world class and it would be strange for City to sell him.