Yes Please.. (Hiddink)

[Sunny]

I'm not arguing with you KHL I was just trying to understand what you were trying to say. I don't get it though. I don't like Mourinho. I despise the prick. I'm not a fan of his style of football. Is it enough for me not to want him at Liverpool? No. Because he's a proven winner.

As for Ferguson:

1) He hates us
2) We hate him
3) He's the antichrist and obviously in league with the Devil


You've more chance of world peace than him joining us so why even talk about it?

 

[the_khl]

I despise the two equally.

And I don't want someone I despise to manage Liverpool.

Call me sentimental but that's my take on it.

And he's NOT a guarantee for succes anyways.

 

[Sunny]

Yes but there's valid reasons to hate Ferguson. Not sure about what yours are for Hiddink. What would you do if he DOES become the manager?

 

[Richey]

If Mourinho had joined us rather than Chelsea you'd probably love him. Same with Ferguson possibly.

No manager guarantees success. Its always a gamble but I'd rather gamble on someone who has done the business in the past than someone who hasn't, and would rather gamble on either than just hope a manager who is obviously struggling will somehow turn it around eventually.

 

[Stulikesdrums]

[quote author=Redshrek link=topic=38460.msg1034671#msg1034671 date=1263558343]
[quote author=Stu link=topic=38460.msg1034649#msg1034649 date=1263556933]
Korea got to the semi's in 2002 and Russia had a good campaign in 2006.
I suppose that is what I am basing it on.
[/quote]
That world cup was a pretty poor one in all honesty, a very poor german side made it to the final. And the one huge advantadge Korea had was they there season before shut down so they could focus solely on the world cup. So while the other teams had 6 weeks Korea had nearly a year half of training together.
[/quote]

Mate, we are complete agreement about Hiddink. I think he is vastly overrated and is a bit of a fraud.
I was only highlighting his teams performances at World Cups and stuff at a guess to why he has a pedigree at all in the modern game considering most of his domestic acheivments were a long time ago.

 

[Stulikesdrums]

[quote author=Sunny link=topic=38460.msg1034720#msg1034720 date=1263560555]
3) He's the antichrist and obviously in league with the Devil
[/quote]

This part is definitely true.
He'll have a score to settle with Belzebub soon enough. Hopefully.

 

[Jürgen4PM]

Please not Hiddink.

 

[Squiggles]

[quote author=Stu link=topic=38460.msg1034635#msg1034635 date=1263556200]
Ok, it is rather dismissive of me, I know.
But Hiddink is the wrong manager for Liverpool on so many different levels.

His age is a big, big problem for me. He is too old. At 63 years of age he will not be a good long-term appointment. He doesn't look like he looks after himself and it could be possible his ticker isn't exactly A1. Look at Trappatoni, he is a very fit 70+ year old man. One thing I really admire and respect Rafa for his grabbing hold of the youth academy system at Liverpool and completely rejuvinating it. He had to sack some pretty well respected people to do it, but he put the club first before all others. Hiddink isn't the one to bring that on and improve on it.

With regard to his time at Chelsea, I wouldn't put too much stock in the fact he managed to win the FA cup with that team of Superstars. They had to beat these boys : Southend United by aid of a replay, Ipswich Town, Watford, Coventry City and a young Arsenal side. Chumps basically.

Hiddink's pedigree has been made at International level Squiggs, that's my view.
He's not the man for the job. Maybe on a short term basis, but not for the long haul.
[/quote]

Yeah, I agree with that. I'd take him on an 18 month deal and see what happens. I'm not saying he's a brilliant manager - I don't think he is. However I do credit him more than yourself for his Chelsea achievement; A team full of superstars they may be - but they were in complete disarray, hugely missed Mourinho and were greatly under performing. He turned that all around, and got everyone on board quickly. And had his record at Chelsea been extended throughout the season, they would have won the league at a canter. Not much more you can ask really.

As the circumstances we face aren't so different, I think it's an attractive option. At least until we line up a long-term successor.

 

[the_khl]

[quote author=Sunny link=topic=38460.msg1034726#msg1034726 date=1263560793]
Yes but there's valid reasons to hate Ferguson. Not sure about what yours are for Hiddink. What would you do if he DOES become the manager?
[/quote]

Hidding would be a rather daft choice in my opinion. I behold no grudges against him so to speak but the man is old-ish and not even that familiar with the game in England.

Appointing him would be a bit like pissing your pants on a cold Winters day if you like.

 

[manwithnoname]

Hidding would be a rather daft choice in my opinion. I behold no grudges against him so to speak but the man is old-ish and not even that familiar with the game in England.

Appointing him would be a bit like pissing your pants on a cold Winters day if you like.

You, about three posts ago:

" I despise the two equally.

And I don't want someone I despise to manage Liverpool"

 

[the_khl]

[quote author=Brendan link=topic=38460.msg1034844#msg1034844 date=1263566631]

Hidding would be a rather daft choice in my opinion. I behold no grudges against him so to speak but the man is old-ish and not even that familiar with the game in England.

Appointing him would be a bit like pissing your pants on a cold Winters day if you like.

You, about three posts ago:

" I despise the two equally.

And I don't want someone I despise to manage Liverpool"

[/quote]
I thought I was replying to the Mourinho and Slur Alex posts.

My bad then.

 

[Judge Jules]

Given the way Hiddink pulled a floundering Chelsea round just recently, I wouldn't be too concerned about any lack of familiarity on his part with the English game. His age wouldn't worry me either if he were appointed along the lines Squiggs suggests, perhaps with someone younger to work under him and take over afterwards.

 

[the_khl]

I've just re-read the posts, and I think it's quite obvious that I'm not talking about Hiddink at the time.

 

[manwithnoname]

[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38460.msg1034849#msg1034849 date=1263566851]
I've just re-read the posts, and I think it's quite obvious that I'm not talking about Hiddink at the time.
[/quote]

OK

 

[the_khl]

[quote author=Brendan link=topic=38460.msg1034853#msg1034853 date=1263567069]
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38460.msg1034849#msg1034849 date=1263566851]
I've just re-read the posts, and I think it's quite obvious that I'm not talking about Hiddink at the time.
[/quote]

OK
[/quote]
No problem mate.

 

[Richey]

Hiddink would not be my first choice, Mourinho would. I am happy to admit that. However I wouldn't be opposed to Hiddink. He did well at Chelsea where all the players apparently liked him a lot and spoke highly of him.

khl, I'm kinda getting the impression that anyone who is suggested who doesn't fit into your criteria of "is Benitez or is Danish" will be met with reasons from you as to why they are unsuitable.

I am kinda hoping that these will become increasingly more absurd ('don't like him', 'too old', 'I hear he spells funny', 'he beats his wife', 'he doesn't like bacon')

 

[the_khl]

[quote author=Richey link=topic=38460.msg1034858#msg1034858 date=1263567384]
Hiddink would not be my first choice, Mourinho would. I am happy to admit that. However I wouldn't be opposed to Hiddink. He did well at Chelsea where all the players apparently liked him a lot and spoke highly of him.

khl, I'm kinda getting the impression that anyone who is suggested who doesn't fit into your criteria of "is Benitez or is Danish" will be met with reasons from you as to why they are unsuitable.

I am kinda hoping that these will become increasingly more absurd ('don't like him', 'too old', 'I hear he spells funny', 'he beats his wife', 'he doesn't like bacon')
[/quote]
I'm simply under-whelmed by the prospects of Mourinho and Hiddink taking over from Rafa.

How dare I?

Oh, and I certainly wouldn't want a wife-beater as our new manager as well. What's wrong with you?

Anywas, who doesn't like bacon?

 

[mark1975]

[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=38460.msg1034642#msg1034642 date=1263556424]
[quote author=Stu link=topic=38460.msg1034635#msg1034635 date=1263556200]
Ok, it is rather dismissive of me, I know.
But Hiddink is the wrong manager for Liverpool on so many different levels.

His age is a big, big problem for me. He is too old. At 63 years of age he will not be a good long-term appointment. He doesn't look like he looks after himself and it could be possible his ticker isn't exactly A1. Look at Trappatoni, he is a very fit 70+ year old man. One thing I really admire and respect Rafa for his grabbing hold of the youth academy system at Liverpool and completely rejuvinating it. He had to sack some pretty well respected people to do it, but he put the club first before all others. Hiddink isn't the one to bring that on and improve on it.

With regard to his time at Chelsea, I wouldn't put too much stock in the fact he managed to win the FA cup with that team of Superstars. They had to beat these boys : Southend United by aid of a replay, Ipswich Town, Watford, Coventry City and a young Arsenal side. Chumps basically.

Hiddink's pedigree has been made at International level Squiggs, that's my view.
He's not the man for the job. Maybe on a short term basis, but not for the long haul.
[/quote]
Anyone with any sort of record would be better than Rafa at the moment and thats the bottom line.
[/quote]

Yep. We're not really in a position to be longtermist. Everything is so up in the air anyway behind the scenes, what we need is a temporary fix to get us back on track and back in the thick of it.

Enough of this 5yr plan bullshit.

 

[the_khl]

I don't think changing managers every 6 months will change fuck all. I really don't.

If Rafa walks we should get someone long term from the start.

 

[Richey]

[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38460.msg1034860#msg1034860 date=1263567648]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=38460.msg1034858#msg1034858 date=1263567384]
Hiddink would not be my first choice, Mourinho would. I am happy to admit that. However I wouldn't be opposed to Hiddink. He did well at Chelsea where all the players apparently liked him a lot and spoke highly of him.

khl, I'm kinda getting the impression that anyone who is suggested who doesn't fit into your criteria of "is Benitez or is Danish" will be met with reasons from you as to why they are unsuitable.

I am kinda hoping that these will become increasingly more absurd ('don't like him', 'too old', 'I hear he spells funny', 'he beats his wife', 'he doesn't like bacon')
[/quote]
I'm simply under-whelmed by the prospects of Mourinho and Hiddink taking over from Rafa.

How dare I?

Oh, and I certainly wouldn't want a wife-beater as our new manager as well. What's wrong with you?

Anywas, who doesn't like bacon?
[/quote]

I was just joking mate. Bit bored today. Sorry.

I have to admit though that I'm not massively keen on bacon

 

[the_khl]

[quote author=Richey link=topic=38460.msg1034864#msg1034864 date=1263567815]
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38460.msg1034860#msg1034860 date=1263567648]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=38460.msg1034858#msg1034858 date=1263567384]
Hiddink would not be my first choice, Mourinho would. I am happy to admit that. However I wouldn't be opposed to Hiddink. He did well at Chelsea where all the players apparently liked him a lot and spoke highly of him.

khl, I'm kinda getting the impression that anyone who is suggested who doesn't fit into your criteria of "is Benitez or is Danish" will be met with reasons from you as to why they are unsuitable.

I am kinda hoping that these will become increasingly more absurd ('don't like him', 'too old', 'I hear he spells funny', 'he beats his wife', 'he doesn't like bacon')
[/quote]
I'm simply under-whelmed by the prospects of Mourinho and Hiddink taking over from Rafa.

How dare I?

Oh, and I certainly wouldn't want a wife-beater as our new manager as well. What's wrong with you?

Anywas, who doesn't like bacon?
[/quote]

I was just joking mate. Bit bored today. Sorry.

I have to admit though that I'm not massively keen on bacon
[/quote]
Me neither actually. I eat it once in a blue moon but it's not something I cheerish. It's good in a solid brunch with eggs once in a while I reckon. And in some stews.

*I kind of was joking too actually.

 

[mark1975]

[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38460.msg1034862#msg1034862 date=1263567796]
I don't think changing managers every 6 months will change fuck all. I really don't.

If Rafa walks we should get someone long term from the start.
[/quote]

We're going to need a long term manager, granted, but at this moment in time we need someone to come in and remind the club, the team and the fans of the basics of football. We need someone to just come in without the pressures of longtermism to just put things back on an even keel and get us playing 'football' again. In the meantime we can do our homework about a potential long term solution.

 

[Judge Jules]

[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38460.msg1034868#msg1034868 date=1263568027]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=38460.msg1034864#msg1034864 date=1263567815]
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38460.msg1034860#msg1034860 date=1263567648]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=38460.msg1034858#msg1034858 date=1263567384]
Hiddink would not be my first choice, Mourinho would. I am happy to admit that. However I wouldn't be opposed to Hiddink. He did well at Chelsea where all the players apparently liked him a lot and spoke highly of him.

khl, I'm kinda getting the impression that anyone who is suggested who doesn't fit into your criteria of "is Benitez or is Danish" will be met with reasons from you as to why they are unsuitable.

I am kinda hoping that these will become increasingly more absurd ('don't like him', 'too old', 'I hear he spells funny', 'he beats his wife', 'he doesn't like bacon')
[/quote]
I'm simply under-whelmed by the prospects of Mourinho and Hiddink taking over from Rafa.

How dare I?

Oh, and I certainly wouldn't want a wife-beater as our new manager as well. What's wrong with you?

Anywas, who doesn't like bacon?
[/quote]

I was just joking mate. Bit bored today. Sorry.

I have to admit though that I'm not massively keen on bacon
[/quote]
Me neither actually. I eat it once in a blue moon but it's not something I cheerish. It's good in a solid brunch with eggs once in a while I reckon. And in some stews.

*I kind of was joking too actually.
[/quote]

Bacon is angel food. I defy either of you guys to name a nicer aroma in the whole wide world than that of bacon frying.

 

[Richey]

[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=38460.msg1034895#msg1034895 date=1263571296]
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38460.msg1034868#msg1034868 date=1263568027]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=38460.msg1034864#msg1034864 date=1263567815]
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38460.msg1034860#msg1034860 date=1263567648]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=38460.msg1034858#msg1034858 date=1263567384]
Hiddink would not be my first choice, Mourinho would. I am happy to admit that. However I wouldn't be opposed to Hiddink. He did well at Chelsea where all the players apparently liked him a lot and spoke highly of him.

khl, I'm kinda getting the impression that anyone who is suggested who doesn't fit into your criteria of "is Benitez or is Danish" will be met with reasons from you as to why they are unsuitable.

I am kinda hoping that these will become increasingly more absurd ('don't like him', 'too old', 'I hear he spells funny', 'he beats his wife', 'he doesn't like bacon')
[/quote]
I'm simply under-whelmed by the prospects of Mourinho and Hiddink taking over from Rafa.

How dare I?

Oh, and I certainly wouldn't want a wife-beater as our new manager as well. What's wrong with you?

Anywas, who doesn't like bacon?
[/quote]

I was just joking mate. Bit bored today. Sorry.

I have to admit though that I'm not massively keen on bacon
[/quote]
Me neither actually. I eat it once in a blue moon but it's not something I cheerish. It's good in a solid brunch with eggs once in a while I reckon. And in some stews.

*I kind of was joking too actually.
[/quote]

Bacon is angel food. I defy either of you guys to name a nicer aroma in the whole wide world than that of bacon frying.
[/quote]

I prefer the smell of coffee or freshly baked bread personally.

Its not the smell that I'm concerned with anyway. The fact that the smell is nicer than the taste actually offends me slightly if anything!

 

[Stulikesdrums]

I was going to post coffee and bread too Richey.
Both are far superior smells to rashers.

 

[Fallon]

I don't know anybody who doesn't love the smell of coffee. I also quite like the smell of permanent markers.

 

[selectabet]

[quote author=Fallon link=topic=38460.msg1034906#msg1034906 date=1263571904]
I don't know anybody who doesn't love the smell of coffee. I also quite like the smell of permanent markers.
[/quote]

I don't like the smell of coffee. I once had a coffee nightmare. Anyone seen a film call The Stuff? It was like that except coffee was chasing me down the street.

I'll just stop now.

Anyways, Hiddink? Yes please. Been a big fan of his for a while and glad when he walked from Stamford Bridge.

 

[Judge Jules]

[quote author=Richey link=topic=38460.msg1034901#msg1034901 date=1263571533]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=38460.msg1034895#msg1034895 date=1263571296]
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38460.msg1034868#msg1034868 date=1263568027]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=38460.msg1034864#msg1034864 date=1263567815]
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38460.msg1034860#msg1034860 date=1263567648]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=38460.msg1034858#msg1034858 date=1263567384]
Hiddink would not be my first choice, Mourinho would. I am happy to admit that. However I wouldn't be opposed to Hiddink. He did well at Chelsea where all the players apparently liked him a lot and spoke highly of him.

khl, I'm kinda getting the impression that anyone who is suggested who doesn't fit into your criteria of "is Benitez or is Danish" will be met with reasons from you as to why they are unsuitable.

I am kinda hoping that these will become increasingly more absurd ('don't like him', 'too old', 'I hear he spells funny', 'he beats his wife', 'he doesn't like bacon')
[/quote]
I'm simply under-whelmed by the prospects of Mourinho and Hiddink taking over from Rafa.

How dare I?

Oh, and I certainly wouldn't want a wife-beater as our new manager as well. What's wrong with you?

Anywas, who doesn't like bacon?
[/quote]

I was just joking mate. Bit bored today. Sorry.

I have to admit though that I'm not massively keen on bacon
[/quote]
Me neither actually. I eat it once in a blue moon but it's not something I cheerish. It's good in a solid brunch with eggs once in a while I reckon. And in some stews.

*I kind of was joking too actually.
[/quote]

Bacon is angel food. I defy either of you guys to name a nicer aroma in the whole wide world than that of bacon frying.
[/quote]

I prefer the smell of coffee or freshly baked bread personally.

Its not the smell that I'm concerned with anyway. The fact that the smell is nicer than the taste actually offends me slightly if anything!
[/quote]

The smell nicer than the taste? We'll have to agree to differ about that comparison too. I honestly feel sorry for anyone even partially immune to the delights of a bacon sarnie, but there you go.

 

[cobrastatus]

[quote author=Glock link=topic=38460.msg1034469#msg1034469 date=1263543939]
Great, curse all you want kids. Like it or not, Glock is here now, move away.
[/quote]

ban, your dementia used to be mildly entertaining, now it's just sad, boring, and pathetic.

 

[Jürgen4PM]

Bacon and brie in a nice baguette = 10/10.