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From The Times November 6, 2009

Xabi Alonso saddened by Liverpool's struggles in Champions League

Oliver Kay


Devastated is the word that Steven Gerrard used to describe how he felt when Xabi Alonso left Liverpool. It is a strong word. “Gutted†is trotted out routinely by footballers, but “devastated†cuts far deeper, revealing the kind of pain that has been all too apparent in the turbulent five-week spell that has turned Liverpool’s season into something already approaching a write-off.

There was a time in the opening weeks of this troubled season when Alonso’s departure to Real Madrid for £30 million was identified as the reason why Liverpool had receded from a title-challenging team into one that had lost four Barclays Premier League games by the middle of last month.

It is only as the results have worsened — one win, one draw and six defeats in the past eight games, leaving them out of the Carling Cup, all but out of the Champions League and nine points adrift in the Premier League — that the focus has shifted away from the gap in midfield and on to deeper, underlying problems.

It is a predicament that brought a sad look to Alonso’s face as he stopped to chat on the way out of the San Siro stadium on Tuesday evening. He had just produced a highly assured performance in Real’s 1-1 draw with AC Milan, but that did not stop him looking ahead to Liverpool’s date with Lyons the night after, backing them to invoke the spirit they have summoned so often in the Champions League — as they seemed to have done again until Lisandro López’s last-minute equaliser left them in need of a “miracleâ€, as Rafael Benítez conceded.

“It’s a difficult situation,†Alonso said. “They have had injuries, they’ve had some bizarre moments like the one at Sunderland [when Darren Bent’s winning goal bounced in off a stray beach ball]. Liverpool will always be in my mind. I keep in contact with my former team-mates, I look for their results and, whenever I can, I watch their games on TV.â€

What of Gerrard’s claim that Alonso’s departure left the captain — and thus quite possibly the team — devastated? While the points in Lyons were frittered away in attack, where opportunities were wasted in the 1-1 draw, and defence, where Sotiris Kyrgiakos and Daniel Agger were dragged out of position before López’s goal, few could look at Liverpool’s midfield in recent weeks and claim that they are not missing Alonso. Quite apart from his range of passing, he brought a composure and a tactical discipline that have not been apparent in Javier Mascherano and Lucas Leiva.

“Everyone knows that in football, when things aren’t right, the best player is always the one who isn’t there, whether they’re injured, suspended or no longer at the club,†Alonso said. “They still have a lot of good players. Alberto Aquilani [the midfield player signed from Roma to replace him] will hopefully be fit soon.â€

This is when the conversation turned to Benítez, with whom his relationship changed perceptibly during the 2007-08 campaign. After the manager tried and failed to replace him with Gareth Barry, Alonso went on to become an influential figure in last season’s title challenge but, the damage done, he was vigorous in pursuing the opportunity to join Real when the summer came.

It was an acrimonious split, but even if his name has become taboo around Anfield — it was not his choice that he did not publish an open letter to the supporters on the club’s website, as John Arne Riise and Luis García had upon leaving — Alonso backed Benítez to drag Liverpool out of their slump.

“I still have great respect for him,†Alonso said. “I’m very grateful to him for the five great years I had at Liverpool. Of course the situation isn’t the best right now, but he knows how to turn it around. It’s not the Liverpool way to sack a manager after a few bad results early in the season. He is the right man for the club. It wouldn’t be a good decision to change the manager. He’s a great manager.â€

Those words will resonate with Liverpool’s supporters, as will the class with which they were delivered by a man who plans to return to Anfield one day to sit among them. At the San Siro on Tuesday his name was jeered by the Milanese in recognition of his role in Liverpool’s Champions League triumph in 2005 — although not quite so loudly as that of Jerzy Dudek, Real’s reserve goalkeeper.

Alonso is linked to Liverpool’s recent past, troubled by their present, but hopeful about their future.
 
See, this is why I avoid contact with ex girlfriends, it's easier to just hate them. Who wants to see them being nice, reasonable people?

So Xabi, erm, fuck you, we don't need your pity. We need you back *sobs*
 
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=36976.msg980726#msg980726 date=1257483771]
See, this is why I avoid contact with ex girlfriends, it's easier to just hate them.[/quote]
 
Don't the media get it? Xabi is never going to castigate Rafa in the press. It's a non event. Move on.
 
Didn't help when you left 2 weeks before the season fucking started, and then let the world know when you signed for Madrid that your mind was made up in May.
 
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=36976.msg980741#msg980741 date=1257486692]
Don't the media get it? Xabi is never going to castigate Rafa in the press. It's a non event. Move on.
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Some of them do.

Apparently Xabi is a little fed up about having to answer questions about LFC at every opportunity. They obviously just want him to say, yeah they're missing me badly and Benitez is a cock but he's not going to do that.
 
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=36976.msg980741#msg980741 date=1257486692]
Don't the media get it? Xabi is never going to castigate Rafa in the press. It's a non event. Move on.
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Yeah because he knows Rafael will be the next Madrid manager.
 
“I still have great respect for him,†Alonso said. “I’m very grateful to him for the five great years I had at Liverpool. Of course the situation isn’t the best right now, but he knows how to turn it around. It’s not the Liverpool way to sack a manager after a few bad results early in the season. He is the right man for the club. It wouldn’t be a good decision to change the manager. He’s a great manager.â€

Applauds.
 
[quote author=Roopy link=topic=36976.msg980744#msg980744 date=1257487473]
Didn't help when you left 2 weeks before the season fucking started, and then let the world know when you signed for Madrid that your mind was made up in May.


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Is that really an issue?
I'm sure his mind was made up to leave long before May anyway. It didn't affect his performances negatively.

As for him leaving 2 weeks before the season started, can he really be blamed for that? Real didn't want to pay the asking price and kept trying to get it down.
They only agreed at the last once they'd got all their other targets sorted and realised we weren't going to budge on the amount.
It's not his fault the whole thing wasn't sorted out earlier. Also, if he'd pushed for a move, I'm assuming we might've got less than the eventual £30mil.
 
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=36976.msg980717#msg980717 date=1257480873]
Top class Xabi top class.
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Top class ? Top class ? The cunt walked out on us. I don't care what bleating commentary Alonso says about Liverpool. He's the one who fucked off so don't pretend you give two fucks about the club please Xabi. Thanks for playing well for three seasons out of the five you were here - when you could be arsed turning up for games- but that's just history now.
 
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[quote author=Roopy link=topic=36976.msg980744#msg980744 date=1257487473]
Didn't help when you left 2 weeks before the season fucking started, and then let the world know when you signed for Madrid that your mind was made up in May.


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Is that really an issue?
I'm sure his mind was made up to leave long before May anyway. It didn't affect his performances negatively.

As for him leaving 2 weeks before the season started, can he really be blamed for that? Real didn't want to pay the asking price and kept trying to get it down.
They only agreed at the last once they'd got all their other targets sorted and realised we weren't going to budge on the amount.
It's not his fault the whole thing wasn't sorted out earlier. Also, if he'd pushed for a move, I'm assuming we might've got less than the eventual £30mil.
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Yes it ******* well is an issue. The preparations to replace him could have started in May if he'd been clear about his decision then, nor would the fee have had to be reduced if Alonso avoided publicity at that stage. As it was, unless and until Alonso actually came out and said he wanted away, Rafa was never going to get the Aquilani money authorised by H and G.
 
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=36976.msg980803#msg980803 date=1257497681]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=36976.msg980717#msg980717 date=1257480873]
Top class Xabi top class.
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Top class ? Top class ? The cunt walked out on us. I don't care what bleating commentary Alonso says about Liverpool. He's the one who fucked off so don't pretend you give two fucks about the club please Xabi. Thanks for playing well for three seasons out of the five you were here - when you could be arsed turning up for games- but that's just history now.
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Hear hear!
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=36976.msg980819#msg980819 date=1257499446]
[quote author=SaRed link=topic=36976.msg980793#msg980793 date=1257496619]
[quote author=Roopy link=topic=36976.msg980744#msg980744 date=1257487473]
Didn't help when you left 2 weeks before the season fucking started, and then let the world know when you signed for Madrid that your mind was made up in May.


[/quote]

Is that really an issue?
I'm sure his mind was made up to leave long before May anyway. It didn't affect his performances negatively.

As for him leaving 2 weeks before the season started, can he really be blamed for that? Real didn't want to pay the asking price and kept trying to get it down.
They only agreed at the last once they'd got all their other targets sorted and realised we weren't going to budge on the amount.
It's not his fault the whole thing wasn't sorted out earlier. Also, if he'd pushed for a move, I'm assuming we might've got less than the eventual £30mil.
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Yes it ******* well is an issue. The preparations to replace him could have started in May if he'd been clear about his decision then, nor would the fee have had to be reduced if Alonso avoided publicity at that stage. As it was, unless and until Alonso actually came out and said he wanted away, Rafa was never going to get the Aquilani money authorised by H and G.
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I don't know about that JJ, I think he probably was clear about his decision and I think he had communicated it by then. I am pretty sure we all had an idea he was off pretty early on. The negotiations trying to keep him and on valuation were pretty protracted.

Still as has been said he's gone, and it was his decision whatever the reasons. If he wanted to publish and open letter to the fans , the Liverpool site was not the only option.

I think Glock has a point too about he graciousness to Benitez, he could be his next boss

regards
 
Am I right in thinking that he hasn't exactly set the world alight at Madrid? I saw him play a couple of game for them and he was quite pedestrian and I have been unreliably informed that the Madrid fans are not impressed - anyone care to elucidate?
 
He has not shown £30 million of ability. I have seen 5 or 6 of their games, and he has not shone. But that is his game, understated, he does the simple things well and dictates the tempo. Whereas the gay waiter does step overs, flicks and backheels to get the crowd going. He will never be a success there unless the defence is overhauled, and they actually win a couple of trophies this season.
 
Vlad - we'll have to agree to differ. Alonso's intentions may have seemed clear enough BUT he knew he'd have to come out and actually ask for a move for us to let him go, yet he held back from doing so until a bare fortnight before the start of the new season. It's true that the length of time the negotiations took wasn't his fault, but that's a separate point and I don't see it as any kind of justification for the games he played.

Pesam - yes, it is true, he's looked like the fairly ordinary player we saw for a couple of seasons before he came back to life in his last one for us. Despite my dissatisfaction over aspects of his departure, I'd still take him back.
 
Glock has a point.

Yeah, right.

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[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=36976.msg980860#msg980860 date=1257501719]
Vlad - we'll have to agree to differ. Alonso's intentions may have seemed clear enough BUT he knew he'd have to come out and actually ask for a move for us to let him go, yet he held back from doing so until a bare fortnight before the start of the new season. It's true that the length of time the negotiations took wasn't his fault, but that's a separate point and I don't see it as any kind of justification for the games he played.

Pesam - yes, it is true, he's looked like the fairly ordinary player we saw for a couple of seasons before he came back to life in his last one for us. Despite my dissatisfaction over aspects of his departure, I'd still take him back.
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I've always like Xabi BUT I have always seen him as a £14m-£15m player and therefore we got decent value when we bought him and got a great price when we sold him. I would only take him back at the original price.
 
Thank god we haven't got this talented bastard in our team now what with his 7 out of 5 years of bad form while he was with us, I much prefer having 2 central midfielders with no discernable attacking talent at all in the middle, so glad we got rid, Rafa played a blinder, I only wish we had flogged him off to Turkey the year before and got the incredible talent that is Gareth Barry.

Oh and how dare he say nice things about us, fuck off Xabi
 
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