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Will.I.An

Mourinho is mental if he leaves Mata go and replaces him with Willian.

I hope Mata doesn't go to United anyway. He's a fantastic player. He did start against Villa so I wouldn't be that quick to suggest a move away.
 
This is actually turning into a quite hilarious scenario for Arsenal... their fans must be well excited now after all..

http://instagram.com/p/dUcNoZA_s2/

PS Even with my on here known positiveness towards the player, I am starting to think he might have ruined his career unless something happens very soon.
 
This is actually turning into a quite hilarious scenario for Arsenal... their fans must be well excited now after all..

http://instagram.com/p/dUcNoZA_s2/

PS Even with my on here known positiveness towards the player, I am starting to think he might have ruined his career unless something happens very soon.


The comments beside the picture are pretty funny.

Did we have the opportunity to enter the Europa league through the fair play route but turned it down? Did I imagine that? Could lack of any European competition at all be slight factor in a player wanting to go to Tottenham? That along with them being flush and in London.
 
there's a lot here I don't agree with, but the part in bold really really annoys me. I've been banging on about how medicore the totality of our attack is, compared to others others we lack serious lack FIREPOWER (excuse the caps, but it winds me up). The great thing is that Brendan gets this, hence the link with all the attackers, the sad thinkg is nothing is happening.

the midfield steel is a red herring. the best team last few years doesn't have midfield steel. let's get over it.

The lack of firepower?? Mediodre?

Ok lets address this. We currently have the following attacking options:

Suarez - 2nd best player in the prem last season, scored 30 goals.
Sturridge - young, hungry and has a good scoring record for us, even if it is early days
Coutinho - slotted in to our style of play like he's been here for ages
Gerrard - one of the best midfielders of a generation going forward

Those 4 alone strike fear into the heart of the opposition.

We then have younger and more raw talent in Ibe and Sterling, plus Suso - yes I know he's out on loan.

Now you were advocating signing a Brazilian for £35m plus with wages in addition who's scoring record and general record is average in an average league. Where exactly was he going to make our "firepower" less "mediocre"? He's a winger. The problem we struggle with is our conversion to chances ratio. That's why we don't put some games to bed and that leaves us open to the potential of the sucker punch. The Stoke game showed that again. Loads of clear cut chances, one half chance taken. Then we gave away a penalty which should have been academic to the result.

If we were to overspend / actually spend £35m on one player then it I'd suggest a proven goalscorer would be the way forward, not an exotic stepover luxury who's good on FIFA and Brazilian.

In terms of the £35m we could have spent, if were to spend it, I'd much rather we bought a steely midfielder (Cabaye) and a proven goalscorer at this level. Hell we could probably have some change and that represents a less risky investment and a better chance of getting a return on that investment.

"the midfield steel is a red herring. the best team last few years doesn't have midfield steel. let's get over "

Lets get over it? No steel in the Utd midfield? Carrick? Anderson (when he played)? No steel in City's midfield? What apart from Kompany and Yaya?

Lucas is not a steely midfielder. He's a snapper and a terrier. He gives away too many free kicks in dangerous areas and his impact elsewhere is not what it could be or needs to be.

Gerrard - the greatest midfielder of a generation. Playing the anchor for a trio? A waste of his talent and strengths.

Teams ran through our midfield of Allen, Lucas, Gerrard, Henderson, Downing last year. We need someone who can impose himself on the opposition midfield when we don't have the ball, in my opinion.

We shouldn't be signing any overpriced, exotic, good on fifa, shit record, wingers period. In your own words "Get over it"
 
I understand the point you're trying to make (I'd like to address the balance of our midfield as a matter of priority) but I think it's a bit of a low blow to constantly hit people with the exotic player that does stepovers and FIFA / Champ comments.

I doubt we'd see " overpriced, exotic, good on fifa, shit record, wingers" comments if we were signing him. It'd be the opposite - patience, let's see how he turns out, trust the managers judgement and all that.

I think that still applies regardless of whether he signs for us.... that is unless you know the player well enough to give out such an opinion but that's not the case in this situation.
 
Its probably reaction to the hyperbole from people who hadn't heard of him 5 minutes ago but can't help blasting the club for not throwing £30m at him.

There's some of that, and there's certainly a place for pragmatism, but if we spend big on a fancy foreign silky boy, it would imbue the club with something of a feelgood vibe rolling forward into the season. I'm all for looking at things rationally, but I think there is a place for romanticism in football, and I don't underestimate the value of an excited, looking-forward-to-seeing-us-play crowd. An expensive 'marquee' signing would give the club that feeling. It would also make the players feel as if the owners were backing the club to an eventual title-challenge, because no-one underestimates the value of being able to spend big if the need calls for it.
 
I understand the point you're trying to make (I'd like to address the balance of our midfield as a matter of priority) but I think it's a bit of a low blow to constantly hit people with the exotic player that does stepovers and FIFA / Champ comments.

I doubt we'd see " overpriced, exotic, good on fifa, shit record, wingers" comments if we were signing him. It'd be the opposite - patience, let's see how he turns out, trust the managers judgement and all that.

I think that still applies regardless of whether he signs for us.... that is unless you know the player well enough to give out such an opinion but that's not the case in this situation.

Thanks.

In terms of the low blow, I took a sledgehammer to crack what I think is a nut. I don't believe there is substance behind the original posters argument. So I attempted to give some, instead of my (now probably boring) one line digs.

The issue here is that I genuinely think some people think this whole transfer market thing is a doddle, hence my computer game comments. I just don't get how so many seem, albeit only imho, so detached from the reality of it all.

We didn't get him. General conscencus is that the price that someone else was willing to pay was too much for us. There is no real damning evidence that I can see that makes him "the final piece in the jigsaw", so why are people hopping around. Maybe I do let it bother me, maybe I'm sounding condescending, but it seems a simple concept to grasp - well for me anyway.

One things for sure, I'd be happy to be proved wrong if we did sign him.
 
Yeah, like I said, there was a fair bit I agreed with.

I'm guessing for many it's just the frustration of seeing us miss out again and our rivals strengthen.

Anyways, there is only a week or so to go and then it's back to focusing on what we've got.

It's a bit cliche but I think Suarez will end up feeling like a new (marquee) signing by the time he comes back (that is, if he's still here!).
 
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Awful thread.

If we had signed the players spurs had, doubt you would be too pissed off about missing this guy.
 
'I want a 22 player squad so if somebody comes, somebody leaves. Do we need to sell, no we don't. Do we need to loan, probably yes because I don't like to work with big squads. I like to work with a small group of players, and I say 22 is a perfect number for our needs in different competitions'

So can we have Moses on loan please.. ?

Ba will be loaned out too no doubt...
 
'I want a 22 player squad so if somebody comes, somebody leaves. Do we need to sell, no we don't. Do we need to loan, probably yes because I don't like to work with big squads. I like to work with a small group of players, and I say 22 is a perfect number for our needs in different competitions'

So can we have Moses on loan please.. ?

Ba will be loaned out too no doubt...

Don't see the point in loaning Moses. We'd only be developing Chelsea's players for them (unless we agreed a fee before he plays for us).
 
Don't see the point in loaning Moses. We'd only be developing Chelsea's players for them (unless we agreed a fee before he plays for us).


I'd see it as a stop gap, if we struggle to sign anyone else tbh...

once he is here.. he will probably want to stay..
 
Is fighting hyperbole with even more hyperbole really the answer though?

Not really, but it's not really worth arguing the toss about either is it? I'd wager more than 90% of the forum are in the dark about his actual abilities, but it doesn't stop exaggerated opinion both ways. Most sane people are probably somewhere in the middle, so that's alot of shit to have to sift through.
 
Not really, but it's not really worth arguing the toss about either is it? I'd wager more than 90% of the forum are in the dark about his actual abilities, but it doesn't stop exaggerated opinion both ways. Most sane people are probably somewhere in the middle, so that's alot of shit to have to sift through.

Are you one of the 10% Mark? 😉
 
Wow, chelsea have signed him? Wow, now I really suddenly do see us as paupers. We're a scrappy tier 2 team boys, and our prudent owners will keep us that way.
 
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