• You may have to login or register before you can post and view our exclusive members only forums.
    To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

What a record Torres

Forums Unread posts
Status
Not open for further replies.
Dreambeliever

Dreambeliever

Will he believe again?
Member
15 goals 16 starts


Jesus Christ thats incredible considering his injuries and the genreal shitness of our team this year to mention the God awful service he has gotten. And Gerrard as well being completely off the form of old when Torres netted 33.


I really hope we can get a full season out of him soon.


Take a bow Torres, your record this season is second to none, not even Rooney.
 
As I've said all season long; if he'd been fit we'd be in the top 4 and still in the Champions League.

Also good to see him stay on his feet tonight.

But yes Dreamy, some record that indeed.
 
Imagine United lost Rooney for the periods of time we lost Torres, they wouldnt be near Chelsea, their second top goalscorer is own goals for christs sake!
 
[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=39318.msg1070369#msg1070369 date=1268709636]
Imagine United lost Rooney for the periods of time we lost Torres, they wouldnt be near Chelsea, their second top goalscorer is own goals for christs sake!
[/quote]


Yes they would.

That's an age old excuse we've used for 2 decades now.

Imagine no Cole, Ole, Sheringham, Yorke, Van Nistlerooy, Ronaldo, Tevez, Rooney blah blah blah
 
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=39318.msg1070393#msg1070393 date=1268718491]
[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=39318.msg1070369#msg1070369 date=1268709636]
Imagine United lost Rooney for the periods of time we lost Torres, they wouldnt be near Chelsea, their second top goalscorer is own goals for christs sake!
[/quote]


Yes they would.

That's an age old excuse we've used for 2 decades now.

Imagine no Cole, Ole, Sheringham, Yorke, Van Nistlerooy, Ronaldo, Tevez, Rooney blah blah blah
[/quote]

Exactly, as I recall mentioning when people were writing United off (unbelievably, again) because they had lost Ronaldo, teams utilize certain players a ton, and in so doing underutilize others. It's not just a matter of subtracting goals, as it ignores the fact that, for instance last season, Rooney was out of position all the time. Ferguson has consistently showed the ability to change the team to play to new strengths, and they still have a lot of depth if they set up differently.

Our losing Torres is devastating, because we've got fuck all else that is even remotely close, no matter how we set up.
 
Well, replacing the 42-goal-a-season Ronaldo with a 30M striker, while your other 30M striker sits on the bench is a little bit more advantageous than relying on David N'Gog.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39318.msg1070395#msg1070395 date=1268720553]
Well, replacing the 42-goal-a-season Ronaldo with a 30M striker, while your other 30M striker sits on the bench is a little bit more advantageous than relying on David N'Gog.
[/quote]

Ryan may just have a point ... 😉
 
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=39318.msg1070393#msg1070393 date=1268718491]
[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=39318.msg1070369#msg1070369 date=1268709636]
Imagine United lost Rooney for the periods of time we lost Torres, they wouldnt be near Chelsea, their second top goalscorer is own goals for christs sake!
[/quote]


Yes they would.

That's an age old excuse we've used for 2 decades now.

Imagine no Cole, Ole, Sheringham, Yorke, Van Nistlerooy, Ronaldo, Tevez, Rooney blah blah blah
[/quote]

Yeah it has been overused in the past, but who would replace Rooney's goals now? Berbatov? He might contribute a fair amount, but he wouldn't replace them and no one else in their squad has enough goals in them, which wasn't the case when the above players were at United. Infact, four of the players you listed were in their squad at the same time, so how does that argument hold water? Ronaldo, Rooney and RVN (and later Tevez) were all in the same squad too. So your point is pretty moot really.


If United lost Rooney for the length of time we've lost Torres, it's fair to say they would be worse off.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39318.msg1070395#msg1070395 date=1268720553]
Well, replacing the 42-goal-a-season Ronaldo with a 30M striker, while your other 30M striker sits on the bench is a little bit more advantageous than relying on David N'Gog.
[/quote]
This.
 
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=39318.msg1070396#msg1070396 date=1268720941]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39318.msg1070395#msg1070395 date=1268720553]
Well, replacing the 42-goal-a-season Ronaldo with a 30M striker, while your other 30M striker sits on the bench is a little bit more advantageous than relying on David N'Gog.
[/quote]

Ryan may just have a point ... 😉
[/quote]

He definately has a point. But if you start looking at who has delivered best of Berbatov and Ngog this season I am not sure there is a 30 million price gap between them!
 
[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=39318.msg1070369#msg1070369 date=1268709636]
Imagine United lost Rooney for the periods of time we lost Torres, they wouldnt be near Chelsea, their second top goalscorer is own goals for christs sake!
[/quote]

Off topic, but I doubt that.

Its how Utd play not who plays. We all said last season without "Ronaldo", this season without "Rooney".

Utd plan great football and with an 11 will always there or there abouts in 90% of the games they play. Sad but true.

If Torres was fit all season we would be fourth but after last season that still shouldn't be good enough to save Rafa.
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=39318.msg1070410#msg1070410 date=1268725864]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=39318.msg1070393#msg1070393 date=1268718491]
[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=39318.msg1070369#msg1070369 date=1268709636]
Imagine United lost Rooney for the periods of time we lost Torres, they wouldnt be near Chelsea, their second top goalscorer is own goals for christs sake!
[/quote]


Yes they would.

That's an age old excuse we've used for 2 decades now.

Imagine no Cole, Ole, Sheringham, Yorke, Van Nistlerooy, Ronaldo, Tevez, Rooney blah blah blah
[/quote]

Yeah it has been overused in the past, but who would replace Rooney's goals now? Berbatov? He might contribute a fair amount, but he wouldn't replace them and no one else in their squad has enough goals in them, which wasn't the case when the above players were at United. Infact, four of the players you listed were in their squad at the same time, so how does that argument hold water? Ronaldo, Rooney and RVN (and later Tevez) were all in the same squad too. So your point is pretty moot really.


If United lost Rooney for the length of time we've lost Torres, it's fair to say they would be worse off.
[/quote]

Hmm however nobody thought Rooney had 30 goals in him.

So who's to say Berbatov wouldn't?

Hot hit what 25 at Spurs?
 
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=39318.msg1072518#msg1072518 date=1268949729]
Whats that now ? 17 in 17? Awesome.
[/quote]

Fast + Powerful + Hardworking + Brave + Good In The Air + Nerveless Finisher + Technique

=

One of the greatest strikers to ever play for Liverpool, and thus one of the greatest strikers on the planet.

It will be a mortal blow if we lose him next season.
 
Don't even want to contemplate it. Never mind a body blow, it'd be a knockout punch.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39318.msg1072521#msg1072521 date=1268949895]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=39318.msg1072518#msg1072518 date=1268949729]
Whats that now ? 17 in 17? Awesome.
[/quote]

Fast + Powerful + Hardworking + Brave + Good In The Air + Nerveless Finisher + Technique

=

One of the greatest strikers to ever play for Liverpool, and thus one of the greatest strikers on the planet.

It will be a mortal blow if we lose him next season.
[/quote]

You forgot looks + personality + impeccable interviews and soundbites
 
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=39318.msg1070853#msg1070853 date=1268772107]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=39318.msg1070410#msg1070410 date=1268725864]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=39318.msg1070393#msg1070393 date=1268718491]
[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=39318.msg1070369#msg1070369 date=1268709636]
Imagine United lost Rooney for the periods of time we lost Torres, they wouldnt be near Chelsea, their second top goalscorer is own goals for christs sake!
[/quote]


Yes they would.

That's an age old excuse we've used for 2 decades now.

Imagine no Cole, Ole, Sheringham, Yorke, Van Nistlerooy, Ronaldo, Tevez, Rooney blah blah blah
[/quote]

Yeah it has been overused in the past, but who would replace Rooney's goals now? Berbatov? He might contribute a fair amount, but he wouldn't replace them and no one else in their squad has enough goals in them, which wasn't the case when the above players were at United. Infact, four of the players you listed were in their squad at the same time, so how does that argument hold water? Ronaldo, Rooney and RVN (and later Tevez) were all in the same squad too. So your point is pretty moot really.


If United lost Rooney for the length of time we've lost Torres, it's fair to say they would be worse off.
[/quote]

Hmm however nobody thought Rooney had 30 goals in him.

So who's to say Berbatov wouldn't?

Hot hit what 25 at Spurs?
[/quote]

I wouldn't say nobody had an idea that he had it in him. I always thought he would, and I'm sure a few others on here would agree with me.

Berbatov is a different story I reckon, though.
 
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=39318.msg1070853#msg1070853 date=1268772107]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=39318.msg1070410#msg1070410 date=1268725864]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=39318.msg1070393#msg1070393 date=1268718491]
[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=39318.msg1070369#msg1070369 date=1268709636]
Imagine United lost Rooney for the periods of time we lost Torres, they wouldnt be near Chelsea, their second top goalscorer is own goals for christs sake!
[/quote]


Yes they would.

That's an age old excuse we've used for 2 decades now.

Imagine no Cole, Ole, Sheringham, Yorke, Van Nistlerooy, Ronaldo, Tevez, Rooney blah blah blah
[/quote]

Yeah it has been overused in the past, but who would replace Rooney's goals now? Berbatov? He might contribute a fair amount, but he wouldn't replace them and no one else in their squad has enough goals in them, which wasn't the case when the above players were at United. Infact, four of the players you listed were in their squad at the same time, so how does that argument hold water? Ronaldo, Rooney and RVN (and later Tevez) were all in the same squad too. So your point is pretty moot really.


If United lost Rooney for the length of time we've lost Torres, it's fair to say they would be worse off.
[/quote]

Hmm however nobody thought Rooney had 30 goals in him.

So who's to say Berbatov wouldn't?

Hot hit what 25 at Spurs?
[/quote]

Apologies Dreamy because I have accused you of this before but are you sure you aren't a Man U fan?

I know it is a harsh thing to come out with but whenever anything positive is said about the team you always relate it to something about the scum - its getting on my nerves!*

*I know you don't give a fuck*
 
[size=12pt]rooney - 25[/size]
berba - 10
valencia - 5
owen -3
flecther - 3
giggs - 2
scholes - 2
carrick - 2

I don't believe in a one man team, but...
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39318.msg1072539#msg1072539 date=1268950325]
[size=12pt]rooney - 25[/size]
berba - 10
valencia - 5
owen -3
flecther - 3
giggs - 2
scholes - 2
carrick - 2

I don't believe in a one man team, but...
[/quote]

Neil has backed my argument up.
 
[quote author=Fraser link=topic=39318.msg1072536#msg1072536 date=1268950241]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=39318.msg1070853#msg1070853 date=1268772107]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=39318.msg1070410#msg1070410 date=1268725864]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=39318.msg1070393#msg1070393 date=1268718491]
[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=39318.msg1070369#msg1070369 date=1268709636]
Imagine United lost Rooney for the periods of time we lost Torres, they wouldnt be near Chelsea, their second top goalscorer is own goals for christs sake!
[/quote]


Yes they would.

That's an age old excuse we've used for 2 decades now.

Imagine no Cole, Ole, Sheringham, Yorke, Van Nistlerooy, Ronaldo, Tevez, Rooney blah blah blah
[/quote]

Yeah it has been overused in the past, but who would replace Rooney's goals now? Berbatov? He might contribute a fair amount, but he wouldn't replace them and no one else in their squad has enough goals in them, which wasn't the case when the above players were at United. Infact, four of the players you listed were in their squad at the same time, so how does that argument hold water? Ronaldo, Rooney and RVN (and later Tevez) were all in the same squad too. So your point is pretty moot really.


If United lost Rooney for the length of time we've lost Torres, it's fair to say they would be worse off.
[/quote]

Hmm however nobody thought Rooney had 30 goals in him.

So who's to say Berbatov wouldn't?

Hot hit what 25 at Spurs?
[/quote]

Apologies Dreamy because I have accused you of this before but are you sure you aren't a Man U fan?

I know it is a harsh thing to come out with but whenever anything positive is said about the team you always relate it to something about the scum - its getting on my nerves!*

*I know you don't give a fuck*
[/quote]

*big nod*
 
[quote author=Fraser link=topic=39318.msg1072536#msg1072536 date=1268950241]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=39318.msg1070853#msg1070853 date=1268772107]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=39318.msg1070410#msg1070410 date=1268725864]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=39318.msg1070393#msg1070393 date=1268718491]
[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=39318.msg1070369#msg1070369 date=1268709636]
Imagine United lost Rooney for the periods of time we lost Torres, they wouldnt be near Chelsea, their second top goalscorer is own goals for christs sake!
[/quote]


Yes they would.

That's an age old excuse we've used for 2 decades now.

Imagine no Cole, Ole, Sheringham, Yorke, Van Nistlerooy, Ronaldo, Tevez, Rooney blah blah blah
[/quote]

Yeah it has been overused in the past, but who would replace Rooney's goals now? Berbatov? He might contribute a fair amount, but he wouldn't replace them and no one else in their squad has enough goals in them, which wasn't the case when the above players were at United. Infact, four of the players you listed were in their squad at the same time, so how does that argument hold water? Ronaldo, Rooney and RVN (and later Tevez) were all in the same squad too. So your point is pretty moot really.


If United lost Rooney for the length of time we've lost Torres, it's fair to say they would be worse off.
[/quote]

Hmm however nobody thought Rooney had 30 goals in him.

So who's to say Berbatov wouldn't?

Hot hit what 25 at Spurs?
[/quote]

Apologies Dreamy because I have accused you of this before but are you sure you aren't a Man U fan?

I know it is a harsh thing to come out with but whenever anything positive is said about the team you always relate it to something about the scum - its getting on my nerves!*

*I know you don't give a fuck*
[/quote]

Hmm yes I am sure. I was comparing Torres to the best strikers out there and at the moment Rooney would be seen by most as the best.

He just happens to play for Utd.

If comparing ourselves to Utd gets on your nerves your supporting the wrong team.
 
17 in 17.

Just imagine if we got him fit for 60 games a year like Kuyt or Lucas.

If he goes in the summer which is a real possibilty with a 7th finish we will be in deep shit.

Best striker for LFC I've ever seen.
 
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=39318.msg1072591#msg1072591 date=1268953488]
17 in 17.

Just imagine if we got him fit for 60 games a year like Kuyt or Lucas.

If he goes in the summer which is a real possibilty with a 7th finish we will be in deep shit.

Best striker for LFC I've ever seen.
[/quote]

Explain exactly how it's a real possibility that Torres will leave in the summer.

Oh, because we'll finish 7th ?

What about a *6th* finish ?

Or *5th* ?
 
[quote author=themn link=topic=39318.msg1072595#msg1072595 date=1268953647]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=39318.msg1072591#msg1072591 date=1268953488]
17 in 17.

Just imagine if we got him fit for 60 games a year like Kuyt or Lucas.

If he goes in the summer which is a real possibilty with a 7th finish we will be in deep shit.

Best striker for LFC I've ever seen.
[/quote]

Explain exactly how it's a real possibility that Torres will leave in the summer.

Oh, because we'll finish 7th ?

What about a *6th* finish ?

Or *5th* ?
[/quote]

NO CL and the fact that we will be looking up at the likes of City and possibly Villa and Spurs, all of them can strengthen in the summer and put distance between our squads.

With no CL money and loans to pay its going to be very hard to raise funds without selling players.

Torres has said we need investment.

It all adds up to a a massive City bid for him in the summer (again) which could see him go.

Maybe just maybe a Euro Trophy and a positive run in could see him stay.

After the world cup all the big boys will bid for him thats for sure.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

rurikbird
  • Locked
Newcastle takeover dead
2
Replies
34
Views
3K
HC
HC
Red Astaire
    • Like
  • Locked
BBC - Is Suarez The Best PL Player Ever?
Replies
12
Views
2K
Judge Jules
Judge Jules
juniormember
  • Locked
Carroll vs Torres
Replies
22
Views
2K
King Binny
King Binny
QUADRASPAZ
  • Locked
Xavi is a class act la.
2
Replies
31
Views
2K
juniormember
juniormember
Dreambeliever
  • Locked
So what do we need to address as no1 priority this summer?
2 3
Replies
84
Views
3K
SummerOnions
SummerOnions
Back
Top Bottom