We are bidding 38 million for Ross Barkley

[juniormember]

He still has the tendency to make the wrong decisions, whether it be trying too hard to pass to the wrong guy or hogging the ball then blasting it when others are in better position.
He'll be a great player if he can eradicate that out of his game.
Which means he's either worth 15m in his current form and level, or he could improve into a 40m player.
Nobody knows the answer, thus 38m seems prohibitive right now.

 

[Dreambeliever]

Could be fuck all substance to what you've heard mate.

Of course and if we go him hopefully its bollocksm but concerning all the same.
Apparently its why Moyes didn't give him a chance and didn't take him to Utd.

 

[juniormember]

Of course and if we go him hopefully its bollocksm but concerning all the same.
Apparently its why Moyes didn't give him a chance and didn't take him to Utd.

And Matinez is the moron that ignores the fact that a teenage player of his is going around partying and taking cocaine? Doubtful. And I'm pretty sure all the players are randomly tested for drugs.
Hated the blue noses going on about Fowler like that back in the days.

 

[FoxForceFive]

I've heard he's a coke head, a big drinker and has an attitude problem.

Sounds perfect!

They say that about every young player that breaks through in Liverpool.

The truth is probably closer to him drinking & having a line occasionally when he hadn't made the first team. Not exactly professional but hardly unexpected for a young lad in this city, most 15/16 year lads have had a stripe or two & have a drink.

If he were a cokehead he wouldn't be able to play & Martinez wouldn't have him anywhere near the first team, the amount of testing he does on those players (including sleeping patterns) is probably the highest of any manager in the league.

 

[Mystic]

£38million can go right to fuck. He's not even the first name of the teamsheet at Everton, and he'd have to be to be anywhere near worth that amount.

 

[Brizzle]

Would take him in a heartbeat. We would obviously have to break the bank but if Fellaini was £24m (what that what he went for?) then I would think it would be similar for Barkley.

 

[Glen C]

For that money we could get Draxler. I'd rather him over Barkley anyday. Barkley looks talented, but fuck no at that price.

 

[Hansern]

There is no way this will happen. Would love him in our team though.

 

[Judge Jules]

Whether or not he's worth the money - and I wouldn't pay that much for him myself - this is never going to happen in a million years. It's one of the silliest, most desperate (and/or mischievous) attempts by a lazy hack to fill space that I've seen in ages, and that's saying something with the British press.

 

[mark1975]

Poor example. This kid is the real deal. Carroll was crap before he joined.

No he wasn't. The differences aren't that great. They've both had successful seasons in a lower league before having about 5 months success in the top flight (Barkley went through shite form for a while this season). If that equates to £38m then the similarities aren't that far apart.

 

[FoxForceFive]

Whether or not he's worth the money - and I wouldn't pay that much for him myself - this is never going to happen in a million years. It's one of the silliest, most desperate (and/or mischievous) attempts by a lazy hack to fill space that I've seen in ages, and that's saying something with the British press.

The fact that he & his family are all blues calls it as shite straight away.

Being a red or blue from a young age & playing for the opposite teams juniors & breaking through is seen as completely different to being a first teamer & leaving.

He also won't want to himself. Sad cos imagine how much he'd learn playing alongside stevie every day in training & on the pitch.

 

[hmmmmm1]

Outstanding talent, which we could build our midfield round.

That said Courtinho could save us 30 million with more performances like the one on sunday in the first half.

 

[juniormember]

No he wasn't. The differences aren't that great. They've both had successful seasons in a lower league before having about 5 months success in the top flight (Barkley went through shite form for a while this season). If that equates to £38m then the similarities aren't that far apart.

I think there's a gulf in talent and potential.
No matter how much Carroll developed after that transfer, his peak would be nowhere near what Barkley potentially can get to, though there's no guarantee of how much he can develop of course.
35m for Carroll was stupid, and not one club in the world apart from us would bid for that price, probably not even for 20m.
38m for Barkley, you can imagine some teams sniffing around at that price, and at 25m they'd snap him up in a heartbeat.

 

[Dreambeliever]

And Matinez is the moron that ignores the fact that a teenage player of his is going around partying and taking cocaine? Doubtful. And I'm pretty sure all the players are randomly tested for drugs.
Hated the blue noses going on about Fowler like that back in the days.

I've been told on numerous occasions that players are pre warned about upcoming tests and the only reason Rio got done was he missed his test the numpty.

apparently a lot more players do drugs that you would think. Again could be all rubbish but I can see it being true

 

[Dreambeliever]

They say that about every young player that breaks through in Liverpool.

The truth is probably closer to him drinking & having a line occasionally when he hadn't made the first team. Not exactly professional but hardly unexpected for a young lad in this city, most 15/16 year lads have had a stripe or two & have a drink.

If he were a cokehead he wouldn't be able to play & Martinez wouldn't have him anywhere near the first team, the amount of testing he does on those players (including sleeping patterns) is probably the highest of any manager in the league.

Interesting and good to hear. I like Martinez as a manager.

I've been to Liverpool so many times and have never seen a hint of coke anywhere. 😉

 

[Judge Jules]

Junior: that isn't Mark's point though. He's saying (and I for one agree with him) that, at the time when the Carroll deal was actually done, he wouldn't have seemed that much less of a prospect than Barkley. He'd already terrorised a fair few defences - our own included, which is what got us interested in the first place.

 

[mark1975]

I think there's a gulf in talent and potential.
No matter how much Carroll developed after that transfer, his peak would be nowhere near what Barkley potentially can get to, though there's no guarantee of how much he can develop of course.
35m for Carroll was stupid, and not one club in the world apart from us would bid for that price, probably not even for 20m.
38m for Barkley, you can imagine some teams sniffing around at that price, and at 25m they'd snap him up in a heartbeat.

I know that. I'm saying their respective history isn't that different, not as great as Modo makes out, or enough to justify the typically inflated price tag.

 

[Pesam]

In recent seasons we've bought Coutinho, Suarez, Hendo, Sterling and Sturridge for a combined £60m, it would be hugely illogical to splash out £38m on one player (especially after the Andy Carroll debacle).

 

[red_maradona]

In recent seasons we've bought Coutinho, Suarez, Hendo, Sterling and Sturridge for a combined £60m, it would be hugely illogical to splash out £38m on one player (especially after the Andy Carroll debacle).

maybe not 38m, but we have done a great rebuilding squad job, and spurs have taught us whole sale changes are stupid. I would imagine that this summer we will look for quality and sign 2/3 players each in the 20m+ mark.

 

[Mystic]

In recent seasons we've bought Coutinho, Suarez, Hendo, Sterling and Sturridge for a combined £60m, it would be hugely illogical to splash out £38m on one player (especially after the Andy Carroll debacle).

100%

 

[jexykrodic]

Outside of the alternate world of football finance, in reality would you lump 38m on a lad who presently has the element of surprise going for him?

I think you'd want a longer look. Next season he'll have special attention and be swamped with close markers. Will he cope, will he last?, he's already been injured for significant periods...

In comparison, our own young star in the making Raheem Sterling has made more League appearances this season and scored more goals. Value for him must be greater?.

 

[SummerOnions]

We'll spend £25m on lallana instead

 

[Oncy]

YAY!
My goal is for it to be as massive as yours!

Lets all just calm the fuck down.

 

[Gerry_A_Trick]

38m is ridiculous. He's a decent prospect, possibly a great one, but not worth anything more than 20m at the minute.

I hope United spend 38m on him.

 

[gkmacca]

I'm hugely grateful for the bluenoses who've signed for us and become fervent reds, but I'll never stop finding the notion of doing so, one way or the other, profoundly bizarre.

 

[Buddha]

He's just about the most promising young player out there (Raheem aside) for me. As much as I raise my eyebrows at premature 'the next' comparisons, he really does have the look of a young Gascoigne about him - and that's a very rare thing.

He could be an attacking midfield monster for years to come in this country. I'd say 30m is about right and I hope we go for him.

With Rossiter coming through in years to come, we might just set ourselves well for an English midfield dynasty at Anfield.

 

[Glen C]

He's just about the most promising young player out there (Raheem aside) for me. As much as I raise my eyebrows at premature 'the next' comparisons, he really does have the look of a young Gascoigne about him - and that's a very rare thing.

He could be an attacking midfield monster for years to come in this country. I'd say 30m is about right and I hope we go for him.

With Rossiter coming through in years to come, we might just set ourselves well for an English midfield dynasty at Anfield.

We don't need him, we have coutinho and that money could be spent better elsewhere. Plus half a season of good football doesn't warrant a £38m price tag. Plus there are better youngsters out there i'd rather have.

 

[Ossi]

Would be perfect. He can learn from Gerrard a couple of seasons- then take over for many years. Sign the fucker.

 

[ILD]

I think he is the real deal anyway. Dunno about spending 38million of him but I doubt there is ANY truth in this link.

 

[dmishra]

Talented player, but 38 million is too big of a risk. Never going to happen anyway.