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VAR.. Taking the natural flow out the game. ?

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VAR is a pointless waste of time at best. The stats show referees get 98% of decisions correct at present, VAR won't change much.
Wonder if there are stats for contentious decisions.
That stat on its own is not all that useful considering it involves all the obvious decisions that no sane person could ever get wrong.
 
It's designed for the 2% they get wrong, so it will make a difference if used correctly.
It will make a difference, in that we get slightly less mistakes in exchange for a worse overall experience.
Wonder if there are stats for contentious decisions.
That stat on its own is not all that useful considering it involves all the obvious decisions that no sane person could ever get wrong.
According to the PGMO (Professional Game Match Officials) Premier League referee makes around 245 decisions per game, three times more than an average player touches the ball over 90 minutes. That's one decision every 22 seconds.
Approximately 45 of these decisions are technical - whether goal-kicks, corners or throw-ins - leaving around 200 decisions to judging physical contact and disciplinary actions.
Of those 200, around 35 are visible decisions where an action is taken (fouls, restarts), and 165 are non-visible, where play is allowed to continue.
In total, refs make around five errors per game, meaning they are right 98 per cent of the time.
https://www.skysports.com/football/...ing-how-many-decisions-do-officials-get-right
So they don't include everything in the stat, but your point still stands. Even with VAR though you wouldn't get rid of all 5 mistakes per game. You would probably get it down to 3 at best.
 
'Fewer'. And you won't be saying that if we get an absolute howler from a ref corrected.
Haha, nice catch. Not my first language.... I also feel the VAR issue is a matter of purity. Football should not require anything but a ball to be played. I realise it is probably futile to resist, as every fan feels the referee is biased against their team and with VAR comes true objectivity.
 
Haha, nice catch. Not my first language.... I also feel the VAR issue is a matter of purity. Football should not require anything but a ball to be played. I realise it is probably futile to resist, as every fan feels the referee is biased against their team and with VAR comes true objectivity.

I guess we have to agree to disagree. But it does make me laugh when people - not you - object to it on the grounds that it will 'break up the flow' of the game, as if most matches are smooth and continuous bursts of action. Traditionally, when a decision is very controversial, both sets of players surround the ref, arguing with each other as well as him, and sometimes the chaos goes on so long the ref will then walk over to his assistant, have a chat with him, maybe also go over to the fourth official, possibly send off or caution a manager, etc etc, and only then will he either confirm or change his ruling. VAR, if used properly, will cut that delay down, not extend it. It's not there for decisions that are simply debatable; it's there to put right the most egregious mistakes or oversights, and I really can't see why anyone would find that unwelcome. But then, some actually opposed goal line technology, even though that was also only meant to be used to stop those terrible errors in terms of whether or not a ball crossed the line.
 
It is indeed moribund. My breakfast browsing was your post & one other in a thread for a match that ended 4 days ago.
 
Yeah, it's very very quiet on here. Unfortunately I'm stupidly busy for a change so haven't got time to post & help matters.

The international break is a killer though, the site does often slow almost to a stop during these breaks.

I wanted to do a post noting where all our players were & who they were playing but sadly won't have time. Seemed a good idea cos a fair few of our players seem to be closer to home than usual.
 
He probably means that he pays to watch his team play well, score goals, and win.

He doesn't pay for the dubious ecstasy of uninterrupted celebrations
 
VAR just been approved by the Premier League CEO meeting; due to start next season.

Also Scudamore's bonus approved

 
Get a four side one like suspended above pitch like schalke and frankfurt. Suspend it between SKD and main stand.
 
Yeah @FoxForceFive showed pics of American football stadia that have them. I think VAR kinda demands it
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The new stadium in Atlanta is the standard. Planning to watch a game here next year if I have the money.
 
It is indeed moribund. My breakfast browsing was your post & one other in a thread for a match that ended 4 days ago.
Five new posts today, three of them about an Engurland game 🙁

Used to be that I desperately tried to get through all the new material before the kids get up for breakfast - now I catch up, read the Twitter, read boring facebook updates about a "friend" (not) who wants the whole world to know exactly which flight he is on, what he had for dinner and when he takes a dump, do the washing up from last night, scratch my balls & then go call the kids.

International breaks are really mini hibernations without the dreams
 
I'm not sure there's a place for a screen at Anfield where it wouldn't obscure the view of the pitch for some. Pity Tom Hicks never actually dug his bunker in the stadium - we could've stuck one there and made it pop up and down for replays.
 
I don't like the idea of fans in the ground seeing the replays whilst a decision is being made. It is observed pretty maturely in rugby but football would be horrific.
 
I don't like the idea of fans in the ground seeing the replays whilst a decision is being made. It is observed pretty maturely in rugby but football would be horrific.

So the fans at home get to watch but everyone in the ground in clueless. How's that good? What's the incentive to attend when you don't get to see the most important decisions?
 
So the fans at home get to watch but everyone in the ground in clueless. How's that good? What's the incentive to attend when you don't get to see the most important decisions?

That’s no different to now. I think it’s influence on decision making by a ref or the influence it might have on players if they see it but don’t get desired result would be too disruptive.
 
So the fans at home get to watch but everyone in the ground in clueless. How's that good? What's the incentive to attend when you don't get to see the most important decisions?
Haha - like now. Come on Woland ! At least you wil know that the vast majority of the time the correct decision has been made.
 
No, now the decision gets made and the game moves on seconds later. The people at home get to piss and moan about whether the decision was right and listen to a couple of bellends go on about it, the people in the ground shout for a bit and then carry on watching the game. I prefer that.

If there was something going on, a new thing that as a spectator in the ground I was completely oblivious to, which often defines the outcome of the match, where everyone watching on TV could see what was going on, that's clearly a worse situation to be in. I'd choose to watch on TV.
 
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