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Oh Jogon have linked us to about 50 portuguese players in the last 5 years....I think Ilori was the only 1 we signed that got right.

I hope they, one day, link us to a player that might play for the reserves.
 
I honestly would not be surprised to see bobby retire with us. He's popular, the fans love him, he seemingly loves being here, his game isn't about goals or assists and i can't see many teams playing a style similar to ours to justify the outlay

I'd be elated

If he does I consider retire with him. All this pressure with every game counting towards a record or a trophy is not good. It takes it's toll and it could be a good time to call it the end.
 
If klopp sees out his contract, bobby will be 30+, and ideally whoever takes over will be modelled in klopps image (thinking ljinders?).

He'll either go back to brazil, or he's never leaving
Ljinders is who I'd like. I know he failed at his last managerial post but as he said himself it was a good learning experience and Pep has been with Klopp along most of this journey .. and been responsible for much of it. He is also responsible for training and he's incredibly detail orientated so it would be nice continuity and I'm sure the players would approve. Better that than someone new coming in and feeling he has to put his stamp on the place.
 
Ljinders is who I'd like. I know he failed at his last managerial post but as he said himself it was a good learning experience and Pep has been with Klopp along most of this journey .. and been responsible for much of it. He is also responsible for training and he's incredibly detail orientated so it would be nice continuity and I'm sure the players would approve. Better that than someone new coming in and feeling he has to put his stamp on the place.

I see where you're coming from, Froggy, but I'm not sure I agree. The attributes with which you (rightly) credit Lijnders are essentially those of a no.2, and football history is littered with examples of top coaches who didn't make a success of the step up. I could see him perhaps given some sort of expanded role under a DOF, especially given that the owners have shown interest in introducing a DOF in the past, but that would be very much a new departure for the club. Not that I have an alternative post-Klopp suggestion (TBH the whole question seems premature to me) but I'd take some convincing that Lijnders would be the right choice.
 
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Before sales, how much has Klopp actually got to spend? Despite the record turnover, profit, and a positive spend, salary increases, stadium and training development improvements have eaten away at much of the spare cash.
 
Before sales, how much has Klopp actually got to spend? Despite the record turnover, profit, and a positive spend, salary increases, stadium and training development improvements have eaten away at much of the spare cash.
Not a lot, there was an article published not long ago on the reasons we can't spend heavy before selling and it's because of the reasons you mentioned with the stadium, salary increase and building new training facilities.

We'd probably be able to make 1-2 30-40m signings.

I think we bought in Gini and Mane for a combined 60m before we sold anyone.
 
If it's true that we've spent the funds usually available for transfer fees on wages isn't that a bit concerning?

It would imply our costs are simply unsustainable in the long run.

I struggle to believe the people in charge would go down that road. They seem too switched on.
 
We haven't. The salaries include bonuses.

The largest part of those bonuses comes from the CL win. The CL win bonus comes direct from the CL winnings, according to reports the club used all the winnings to pay bonuses to the players & Klopp.

We'll spend, & there's obviously a plan to rebuild, hence Klopp's comments about doing so when signed his contract extension.
 
Bayern will get him. They aren't pulling the plug on Coutinho for no reason.

Werner is where the campfire is for us.

This with Sane as well?

Because they’re balls deep on that and that’s looking like 80/100m

Big money for a team who have spent, and wasted, a lot over the last couple of years.

We are very attractive and have the cash, why do people keep doing us down?
 
If it's true that we've spent the funds usually available for transfer fees on wages isn't that a bit concerning?

It would imply our costs are simply unsustainable in the long run.

I struggle to believe the people in charge would go down that road. They seem too switched on.
A CL, WC, Super Cup, and a League title together with a +ve net spend, yet still very little in the kitty. Since Klopp's taken over we're one of the lowest net spenders in the market. FSG only need to look to Arsenal and Spurs and see what happens when you don't refresh some of the squad.
 
I see where you're coming from, Froggy, but I'm not sure I agree. The attributes with which you (rightly) credit Lijnders are essentially those of a no.2, and football history is littered with examples of top coaches who didn't make a success of the step up. I could see him perhaps given some sort of expanded role under a DOF, especially given that the owners have shown interest in introducing a DOF in the past, but that would be very much a new departure for the club. Not that I have an alternative post-Klopp suggestion (TBH the whole question seems premature to me) but I'd take some convincing that Lijnders would be the right choice.
There are a lot of imponderables at the moment (player roster, ownership, Klopp's tenure, LFC status at that time etc.) however one of the considerations, that it's likely the owners will already be thinking of and planning for, if they intend to stick around, is whether it is better to plan ascendancy or go for external manager recruitment.

Probably both are on the table at the moment though if external recruitment then how will that affect all the carefully built systems put in place? I don't see this management as not having planned succession and definitely they won't want to tear up the blueprint and start again. Which likely rules out a lot of managers who'd want to mark their own mark and expect a degree of autonomy to do that.

It's easy to remember how the boot room (eventually) fell apart last time but that is the roll of the dice. Nothing goes on forever. It did work for a while though and we can talk about how the game has moved on but all big businesses go through the same considerations, promote from within or bring in someone new to freshen up the place. Currently there is nothing to freshen up, we just need a new train driver. Let's see how it looks 4 years from now !
 
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If it's true that we've spent the funds usually available for transfer fees on wages isn't that a bit concerning?

It would imply our costs are simply unsustainable in the long run.

I struggle to believe the people in charge would go down that road. They seem too switched on.
Totally.

I tend to side with the notion that they will spend what is required. Whether that figure is zero, £50m a player or even £100m which is likely where we'd be for Havertz or Sancho (I don't believe the higher figures quoted - that's just media chatter or agents/club trying to push it up).
 
A CL, WC, Super Cup, and a League title together with a +ve net spend, yet still very little in the kitty. Since Klopp's taken over we're one of the lowest net spenders in the market. FSG only need to look to Arsenal and Spurs and see what happens when you don't refresh some of the squad.
And you know that how ? Klopp & FSG have both always been prudent ... except when they aren't.
 
This with Sane as well?

Because they’re balls deep on that and that’s looking like 80/100m

Big money for a team who have spent, and wasted, a lot over the last couple of years.

We are very attractive and have the cash, why do people keep doing us down?
They were balls deep.. but Sane's injury gives Bayern a get out of jail free card IMO.

Havertz is considered a once in a generation German talent. He will be Bayerns number 1 target.
 
If it's true that we've spent the funds usually available for transfer fees on wages isn't that a bit concerning?

It would imply our costs are simply unsustainable in the long run.

Think a little before rushing to your keyboard.

When has the club NOT backed Klopp?

While the stadium remodel + academy surely are expensive, they are not long-term costs as they are both in the advanced stages

The team is in its best financial health it’s been in a very long time

Stop believing every dumb article you read.
 
Think a little before rushing to your keyboard.

When has the club NOT backed Klopp?

While the stadium remodel + academy surely are expensive, they are not long-term costs as they are both in the advanced stages

The team is in its best financial health it’s been in a very long time

Stop believing every dumb article you read.

"FSG only need to look to Arsenal and Spurs and see what happens when you don't refresh some of the squad". Last summer Klopp more or less indicated we had very little money after pay increases. My point is FSG needs to find additional funds even if the kitty is low to avoid the mistakes of Ase and Spurs.
If the below article is true, we are going to need a bigger squad then we have at the moment
Liverpool chairman Tom Werner 'attended secret meeting to discuss lucrative new pre-season tournament' - just DAYS before boss Jurgen Klopp fielded youth team in FA Cup after complaining about too many matches
 
Yes I'm also curious about this issue, we might be making more but is expenditure going up as well? As someone what said the Klopp hinted the club were concentrating on wages of purchasing.

Also look at Barcelona, they making so much cash and you would think they are are rolling in it but it seems their expenditure is very high as well.
 
Yes I'm also curious about this issue, we might be making more but is expenditure going up as well? As someone what said the Klopp hinted the club were concentrating on wages of purchasing.

Also look at Barcelona, they making so much cash and you would think they are are rolling in it but it seems their expenditure is very high as well.

I put the second sentence above through Google Translate and it told me to **** off.
 
Think a little before rushing to your keyboard.

When has the club NOT backed Klopp?

While the stadium remodel + academy surely are expensive, they are not long-term costs as they are both in the advanced stages

The team is in its best financial health it’s been in a very long time

Stop believing every dumb article you read.

Did you not read the last sentence?
 

[article]Peterborough United are fighting to keep hold of Ricky-Jade Jones.

The Peterborough Telegraph says Liverpool, Manchester United, Arsenal and Leeds United all made enquiries last month.


Posh director of football Barry Fry said: "We had more clubs interested in Ricky in January than we did in Ivan Toney.

"They were all after him. United, Liverpool, Arsenal, but we told them all the same thing and that it was a waste of time bidding as we were determined to hold on to him.

"For one he is going to be a very good player for us and secondly he will be worth a lot more money a few years down the line.

"Leeds were actually the most determined to sign Ricky. They were on several times as they think Ricky is going to be the next Tammy Abraham. I told them if that's the case he must be worth £15 million already!

"In our opinion Ricky is better off developing with us and helping us be successful. He's a lovely lad with his feet on the ground."[/article]
 

[article]Liverpool made a January offer for Villarreal star Samuel Chukwueze, it has been revealed.

France Football says the Reds offered €35m to sign the Nigerian, but the LaLiga Santander club turned their bid down.

Villarreal considered the offer too low for Chukwueze, whose buyout clause is set at around €100m.


Despite being just 20 years old, the forward has played more than 60 official matches for the Yellow Submarine.

The French outlet also revealed that Chukwueze was Lionel Messi's third choice in his vote for the Kopa Trophy, awarded to the best player under the age of 21.

Juventus centre-back Matthijs de Ligt won the prize, with the Villarreal youngster finishing ninth.[/article]
 
Anyone else think we should have a banned sources section?

GFFN
Any Portuguese paper
Any Turkish paper

Would definitely be on that list.
 
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