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Tommy Smith.
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Tommy Smith's views expressed here are repellant, and I don't think there's much more to say on the matter. I'd like to think that he no longer holds those views and is thoroughly ashamed that he once did, but it is hard to know for certain.
[quote author=themn link=topic=48546.msg1476095#msg1476095 date=1328214369]
....Is not fucking dead yet, the fucking shit head, dirty racist cunt.
What's up with THAT ?
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Bang out of order wishing death upon him. Are you going to add in JT or Suarez o are you leavin them out as it doesn't fit with your agenda.
Dot get me wrong hate him all you want as what he said is repulsive and should rightly be condemned but you are no better after this
....Is not fucking dead yet, the fucking shit head, dirty racist cunt.
What's up with THAT ?
[/quote]
Bang out of order wishing death upon him. Are you going to add in JT or Suarez o are you leavin them out as it doesn't fit with your agenda.
Dot get me wrong hate him all you want as what he said is repulsive and should rightly be condemned but you are no better after this
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[quote author=themn link=topic=48546.msg1476095#msg1476095 date=1328214369]
....Is not fucking dead yet, the fucking shit head, dirty racist cunt.
What's up with THAT ?
[/quote]
Bang out of order wishing death upon him. Are you going to add in JT or Suarez o are you leavin them out as it doesn't fit with your agenda.
Dot get me wrong hate him all you want as what he said is repulsive and should rightly be condemned but you are no better after this
[/quote]
*giving not a fuck*
[quote author=themn link=topic=48546.msg1476095#msg1476095 date=1328214369]
....Is not fucking dead yet, the fucking shit head, dirty racist cunt.
What's up with THAT ?
[/quote]
Bang out of order wishing death upon him. Are you going to add in JT or Suarez o are you leavin them out as it doesn't fit with your agenda.
Dot get me wrong hate him all you want as what he said is repulsive and should rightly be condemned but you are no better after this
[/quote]
*giving not a fuck*
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[quote author=Dahuge link=topic=48546.msg1476627#msg1476627 date=1328286345]
[quote author=themn link=topic=48546.msg1476095#msg1476095 date=1328214369]
....Is not fucking dead yet, the fucking shit head, dirty racist cunt.
What's up with THAT ?
[/quote]
Bang out of order wishing death upon him. Are you going to add in JT or Suarez o are you leavin them out as it doesn't fit with your agenda.
Dot get me wrong hate him all you want as what he said is repulsive and should rightly be condemned but you are no better after this
[/quote]
*giving not a fuck*
[/quote]
Well you do as you started the topic for attention, which you got.
So why didn't you add in JT or Suarez to you death list or didn't you think it through I your rush to seek attention
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[quote author=themn link=topic=48546.msg1476095#msg1476095 date=1328214369]
....Is not fucking dead yet, the fucking shit head, dirty racist cunt.
What's up with THAT ?
[/quote]
Bang out of order wishing death upon him. Are you going to add in JT or Suarez o are you leavin them out as it doesn't fit with your agenda.
Dot get me wrong hate him all you want as what he said is repulsive and should rightly be condemned but you are no better after this
[/quote]
*giving not a fuck*
[/quote]
Well you do as you started the topic for attention, which you got.
So why didn't you add in JT or Suarez to you death list or didn't you think it through I your rush to seek attention
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[quote author=themn link=topic=48546.msg1476633#msg1476633 date=1328286830]
[quote author=Dahuge link=topic=48546.msg1476627#msg1476627 date=1328286345]
[quote author=themn link=topic=48546.msg1476095#msg1476095 date=1328214369]
....Is not fucking dead yet, the fucking shit head, dirty racist cunt.
What's up with THAT ?
[/quote]
Bang out of order wishing death upon him. Are you going to add in JT or Suarez o are you leavin them out as it doesn't fit with your agenda.
Dot get me wrong hate him all you want as what he said is repulsive and should rightly be condemned but you are no better after this
[/quote]
*giving not a fuck*
[/quote]
Well you do as you started the topic for attention, which you got.
So why didn't you add in JT or Suarez to you death list or didn't you think it through I your rush to seek attention
[/quote]
I don't give a fuck about your condemnation.
Fuck "attention"
And fuck Tommy "I'm not rasict, I'm normal" Smith.
If that hurts your feelings, I honestly do not care.
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[quote author=Dahuge link=topic=48546.msg1476627#msg1476627 date=1328286345]
[quote author=themn link=topic=48546.msg1476095#msg1476095 date=1328214369]
....Is not fucking dead yet, the fucking shit head, dirty racist cunt.
What's up with THAT ?
[/quote]
Bang out of order wishing death upon him. Are you going to add in JT or Suarez o are you leavin them out as it doesn't fit with your agenda.
Dot get me wrong hate him all you want as what he said is repulsive and should rightly be condemned but you are no better after this
[/quote]
*giving not a fuck*
[/quote]
Well you do as you started the topic for attention, which you got.
So why didn't you add in JT or Suarez to you death list or didn't you think it through I your rush to seek attention
[/quote]
I don't give a fuck about your condemnation.
Fuck "attention"
And fuck Tommy "I'm not rasict, I'm normal" Smith.
If that hurts your feelings, I honestly do not care.
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[quote author=Dahuge link=topic=48546.msg1476638#msg1476638 date=1328287163]
[quote author=themn link=topic=48546.msg1476633#msg1476633 date=1328286830]
[quote author=Dahuge link=topic=48546.msg1476627#msg1476627 date=1328286345]
[quote author=themn link=topic=48546.msg1476095#msg1476095 date=1328214369]
....Is not fucking dead yet, the fucking shit head, dirty racist cunt.
What's up with THAT ?
[/quote]
Bang out of order wishing death upon him. Are you going to add in JT or Suarez o are you leavin them out as it doesn't fit with your agenda.
Dot get me wrong hate him all you want as what he said is repulsive and should rightly be condemned but you are no better after this
[/quote]
*giving not a fuck*
[/quote]
Well you do as you started the topic for attention, which you got.
So why didn't you add in JT or Suarez to you death list or didn't you think it through I your rush to seek attention
[/quote]
I don't give a fuck about your condemnation.
Fuck "attention"
And fuck Tommy "I'm not rasict, I'm normal" Smith.
If that hurts your feelings, I honestly do not care.
[/quote]
You do give a fuck or why start the thread.
That's it try to act like not giving a fuck but failing miserably.
So no objections then if I randomly start a thread for no attention of course asking why the hateful bastard themn isn't dead.
I am also surprised the mods have let this go although they probably didn't want you going of in a cry baby sulk
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[quote author=themn link=topic=48546.msg1476633#msg1476633 date=1328286830]
[quote author=Dahuge link=topic=48546.msg1476627#msg1476627 date=1328286345]
[quote author=themn link=topic=48546.msg1476095#msg1476095 date=1328214369]
....Is not fucking dead yet, the fucking shit head, dirty racist cunt.
What's up with THAT ?
[/quote]
Bang out of order wishing death upon him. Are you going to add in JT or Suarez o are you leavin them out as it doesn't fit with your agenda.
Dot get me wrong hate him all you want as what he said is repulsive and should rightly be condemned but you are no better after this
[/quote]
*giving not a fuck*
[/quote]
Well you do as you started the topic for attention, which you got.
So why didn't you add in JT or Suarez to you death list or didn't you think it through I your rush to seek attention
[/quote]
I don't give a fuck about your condemnation.
Fuck "attention"
And fuck Tommy "I'm not rasict, I'm normal" Smith.
If that hurts your feelings, I honestly do not care.
[/quote]
You do give a fuck or why start the thread.
That's it try to act like not giving a fuck but failing miserably.
So no objections then if I randomly start a thread for no attention of course asking why the hateful bastard themn isn't dead.
I am also surprised the mods have let this go although they probably didn't want you going of in a cry baby sulk
Why are people getting irate? Themn is entitled to express his opinion and its understandable IMO
Surely most people can think of some public figure who they can say that they wouldn't care if they died?
Worse things than this get said about people on here all the time, but normally in General Chat.
Surely most people can think of some public figure who they can say that they wouldn't care if they died?
Worse things than this get said about people on here all the time, but normally in General Chat.
I dislike smith becuase of his racism and also because he think he knows about football when really he's fucking clueless about it. he comes out with pearls of wisdoms like; 'we should attack more' and 'we need better players' oh that's fucking GENIUS tommy, I bet rafa and kenny never thought of that.
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[quote author=Richey link=topic=48546.msg1476648#msg1476648 date=1328287958]
Surely most people can think of some public figure who they can say that they wouldn't care if they died?
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She'll be dead soon enough..
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hahaha.
Okay, okay I admit it was her I had in mind!
[quote author=Richey link=topic=48546.msg1476648#msg1476648 date=1328287958]
Surely most people can think of some public figure who they can say that they wouldn't care if they died?
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She'll be dead soon enough..
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hahaha.
Okay, okay I admit it was her I had in mind!
Re: Re: Tommy Smith.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=48546.msg1#msg1 date=1328288240]
I dislike smith becuase of his racism and also because he think he knows about football when really he's fucking clueless about it. he comes out with pearls of wisdoms like; 'we should attack more' and 'we need better players' oh that's fucking GENIUS tommy, I bet rafa and kenny never thought of that.
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So tempted to change tommy in that to ryan...
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=48546.msg1#msg1 date=1328288240]
I dislike smith becuase of his racism and also because he think he knows about football when really he's fucking clueless about it. he comes out with pearls of wisdoms like; 'we should attack more' and 'we need better players' oh that's fucking GENIUS tommy, I bet rafa and kenny never thought of that.
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So tempted to change tommy in that to ryan...
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[quote author=Dahuge link=topic=48546.msg1476627#msg1476627 date=1328286345]
[quote author=themn link=topic=48546.msg1476095#msg1476095 date=1328214369]
....Is not fucking dead yet, the fucking shit head, dirty racist cunt.
What's up with THAT ?
[/quote]
Bang out of order wishing death upon him. Are you going to add in JT or Suarez o are you leavin them out as it doesn't fit with your agenda.
Dot get me wrong hate him all you want as what he said is repulsive and should rightly be condemned but you are no better after this
[/quote]
*giving not a fuck*
[/quote]
Well you do as you started the topic for attention, which you got.
So why didn't you add in JT or Suarez to you death list or didn't you think it through I your rush to seek attention
[/quote]
I don't give a fuck about your condemnation.
Fuck "attention"
And fuck Tommy "I'm not rasict, I'm normal" Smith.
If that hurts your feelings, I honestly do not care.
[/quote]
You do give a fuck or why start the thread.
That's it try to act like not giving a fuck but failing miserably.
So no objections then if I randomly start a thread for no attention of course asking why the hateful bastard themn isn't dead.
I am also surprised the mods have let this go although they probably didn't want you going of in a cry baby sulk
[/quote]
Oh dear.
Feel free to start a thread, saying whatever you want about me.
I will still raise a glass when Tommy Smith dies.
*smiles*
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[quote author=Dahuge link=topic=48546.msg1476638#msg1476638 date=1328287163]
[quote author=themn link=topic=48546.msg1476633#msg1476633 date=1328286830]
[quote author=Dahuge link=topic=48546.msg1476627#msg1476627 date=1328286345]
[quote author=themn link=topic=48546.msg1476095#msg1476095 date=1328214369]
....Is not fucking dead yet, the fucking shit head, dirty racist cunt.
What's up with THAT ?
[/quote]
Bang out of order wishing death upon him. Are you going to add in JT or Suarez o are you leavin them out as it doesn't fit with your agenda.
Dot get me wrong hate him all you want as what he said is repulsive and should rightly be condemned but you are no better after this
[/quote]
*giving not a fuck*
[/quote]
Well you do as you started the topic for attention, which you got.
So why didn't you add in JT or Suarez to you death list or didn't you think it through I your rush to seek attention
[/quote]
I don't give a fuck about your condemnation.
Fuck "attention"
And fuck Tommy "I'm not rasict, I'm normal" Smith.
If that hurts your feelings, I honestly do not care.
[/quote]
You do give a fuck or why start the thread.
That's it try to act like not giving a fuck but failing miserably.
So no objections then if I randomly start a thread for no attention of course asking why the hateful bastard themn isn't dead.
I am also surprised the mods have let this go although they probably didn't want you going of in a cry baby sulk
[/quote]
Oh dear.
Feel free to start a thread, saying whatever you want about me.
I will still raise a glass when Tommy Smith dies.
*smiles*
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[quote author=Dahuge link=topic=48546.msg1476627#msg1476627 date=1328286345]
[quote author=themn link=topic=48546.msg1476095#msg1476095 date=1328214369]
....Is not fucking dead yet, the fucking shit head, dirty racist cunt.
What's up with THAT ?
[/quote]
Bang out of order wishing death upon him. Are you going to add in JT or Suarez o are you leavin them out as it doesn't fit with your agenda.
Dot get me wrong hate him all you want as what he said is repulsive and should rightly be condemned but you are no better after this
[/quote]
*giving not a fuck*
[/quote]
Well you do as you started the topic for attention, which you got.
So why didn't you add in JT or Suarez to you death list or didn't you think it through I your rush to seek attention
[/quote]
I don't give a fuck about your condemnation.
Fuck "attention"
And fuck Tommy "I'm not rasict, I'm normal" Smith.
If that hurts your feelings, I honestly do not care.
[/quote]
You do give a fuck or why start the thread.
That's it try to act like not giving a fuck but failing miserably.
So no objections then if I randomly start a thread for no attention of course asking why the hateful bastard themn isn't dead.
I am also surprised the mods have let this go although they probably didn't want you going of in a cry baby sulk
[/quote]
Oh dear.
Feel free to start a thread, saying whatever you want about me.
I will still raise a glass when Tommy Smith dies.
*smiles*
[/quote]
Would that be a glass of the black stuff? 😉
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[quote author=Dahuge link=topic=48546.msg1476627#msg1476627 date=1328286345]
[quote author=themn link=topic=48546.msg1476095#msg1476095 date=1328214369]
....Is not fucking dead yet, the fucking shit head, dirty racist cunt.
What's up with THAT ?
[/quote]
Bang out of order wishing death upon him. Are you going to add in JT or Suarez o are you leavin them out as it doesn't fit with your agenda.
Dot get me wrong hate him all you want as what he said is repulsive and should rightly be condemned but you are no better after this
[/quote]
*giving not a fuck*
[/quote]
Well you do as you started the topic for attention, which you got.
So why didn't you add in JT or Suarez to you death list or didn't you think it through I your rush to seek attention
[/quote]
I don't give a fuck about your condemnation.
Fuck "attention"
And fuck Tommy "I'm not rasict, I'm normal" Smith.
If that hurts your feelings, I honestly do not care.
[/quote]
You do give a fuck or why start the thread.
That's it try to act like not giving a fuck but failing miserably.
So no objections then if I randomly start a thread for no attention of course asking why the hateful bastard themn isn't dead.
I am also surprised the mods have let this go although they probably didn't want you going of in a cry baby sulk
[/quote]
Oh dear.
Feel free to start a thread, saying whatever you want about me.
I will still raise a glass when Tommy Smith dies.
*smiles*
[/quote]
Would that be a glass of the black stuff? 😉
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[quote author=themn link=topic=48546.msg1476659#msg1476659 date=1328288668]
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[quote author=Dahuge link=topic=48546.msg1476627#msg1476627 date=1328286345]
[quote author=themn link=topic=48546.msg1476095#msg1476095 date=1328214369]
....Is not fucking dead yet, the fucking shit head, dirty racist cunt.
What's up with THAT ?
[/quote]
Bang out of order wishing death upon him. Are you going to add in JT or Suarez o are you leavin them out as it doesn't fit with your agenda.
Dot get me wrong hate him all you want as what he said is repulsive and should rightly be condemned but you are no better after this
[/quote]
*giving not a fuck*
[/quote]
Well you do as you started the topic for attention, which you got.
So why didn't you add in JT or Suarez to you death list or didn't you think it through I your rush to seek attention
[/quote]
I don't give a fuck about your condemnation.
Fuck "attention"
And fuck Tommy "I'm not rasict, I'm normal" Smith.
If that hurts your feelings, I honestly do not care.
[/quote]
You do give a fuck or why start the thread.
That's it try to act like not giving a fuck but failing miserably.
So no objections then if I randomly start a thread for no attention of course asking why the hateful bastard themn isn't dead.
I am also surprised the mods have let this go although they probably didn't want you going of in a cry baby sulk
[/quote]
Oh dear.
Feel free to start a thread, saying whatever you want about me.
I will still raise a glass when Tommy Smith dies.
*smiles*
[/quote]
Would that be a glass of the black stuff? 😉
[/quote]
Ooooooooh, you !
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[quote author=themn link=topic=48546.msg1476095#msg1476095 date=1328214369]
....Is not fucking dead yet, the fucking shit head, dirty racist cunt.
What's up with THAT ?
[/quote]
Bang out of order wishing death upon him. Are you going to add in JT or Suarez o are you leavin them out as it doesn't fit with your agenda.
Dot get me wrong hate him all you want as what he said is repulsive and should rightly be condemned but you are no better after this
[/quote]
*giving not a fuck*
[/quote]
Well you do as you started the topic for attention, which you got.
So why didn't you add in JT or Suarez to you death list or didn't you think it through I your rush to seek attention
[/quote]
I don't give a fuck about your condemnation.
Fuck "attention"
And fuck Tommy "I'm not rasict, I'm normal" Smith.
If that hurts your feelings, I honestly do not care.
[/quote]
You do give a fuck or why start the thread.
That's it try to act like not giving a fuck but failing miserably.
So no objections then if I randomly start a thread for no attention of course asking why the hateful bastard themn isn't dead.
I am also surprised the mods have let this go although they probably didn't want you going of in a cry baby sulk
[/quote]
Oh dear.
Feel free to start a thread, saying whatever you want about me.
I will still raise a glass when Tommy Smith dies.
*smiles*
[/quote]
Would that be a glass of the black stuff? 😉
[/quote]
Ooooooooh, you !
So what's really the point of this?
I genuinely don't get it. I am drunk. Is there some relevance, or is it just Themn going ' here's a racist cunt. Hate him'.
I personally think that what he said in those quotes above is abhorrent. Hateful. Unacceptable. But I could find a million abhorrent quotes given five minutes. What are you trying to achieve with this this thread, Themn?
Again, I am wobbly drunk and I may be missing some profound point to the timing of this Tommy Smith deplore-a-thon, but what?
I am really drunk, yet my spelling remains consistent. What's that all about?
I genuinely don't get it. I am drunk. Is there some relevance, or is it just Themn going ' here's a racist cunt. Hate him'.
I personally think that what he said in those quotes above is abhorrent. Hateful. Unacceptable. But I could find a million abhorrent quotes given five minutes. What are you trying to achieve with this this thread, Themn?
Again, I am wobbly drunk and I may be missing some profound point to the timing of this Tommy Smith deplore-a-thon, but what?
I am really drunk, yet my spelling remains consistent. What's that all about?
The idea that we can't have any sense of historical sympathy when judging those from older generations is abhorrent to me, and frankly I think it betrays a kind of societal hubris. What's the purpose of it anyway, since it's so lazy and ahistorical? I guess it cleanly breaks off from and shuns those elements of our ideological lineage that we are uncomfortable with, as opposed to recognizing there is a lot of continuity. It is an opportunity to feel evolved while simultaneously hampering our evolution.
So yea, what Smith said was abhorrent, but as Mark points out, not to excuse it, but to understand it, it's useful to appreciate context. That said, his beliefs and remarks are particularly shamelessly racist, even for his time.
As to why someone should bring it up now in such an unhelpful and unconsidered way, I'm a bit lost. Tommy Smith will be dead soon, like so many of that generation, including many heros, many brilliant liverpool footballers who built this club, many men great and small, and by themn's logic I'd wager most of them will deserve to be wished dead, such were the times.
So yea, what Smith said was abhorrent, but as Mark points out, not to excuse it, but to understand it, it's useful to appreciate context. That said, his beliefs and remarks are particularly shamelessly racist, even for his time.
As to why someone should bring it up now in such an unhelpful and unconsidered way, I'm a bit lost. Tommy Smith will be dead soon, like so many of that generation, including many heros, many brilliant liverpool footballers who built this club, many men great and small, and by themn's logic I'd wager most of them will deserve to be wished dead, such were the times.
This is why themn, and vengeful whistleblowers like dantes get filled with hatred and anger. Farky will use his brain ti understand tommy smith and what led him to do and say what he did. Yet you would not extend that same favour to dantes? If I had normal feelings, they'd get hurt at this point. But in reality we know better as to what I would do
BTW, Muhammad Ali was terribly racist to Joe Frazier.
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