That's not including the 21 he missed last season, and the two seasons on the bounce that you admit to omitting where he suffered significant injuries. It all adds up and he's getting older.
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Iron man - haha ! Well of course but if you just quote a figure without adding context that doesn't do your theory any good either.
Remove CV and Richarlison gives us 52 missed games in 7 seasons so I still don't think anyone would be bitching about a player missing 7.5 games a season.
EDIT. A lack of clarity on what you're quoting here, or my misunderstanding, led to my miscalculation.
But again, you're removing the 2 seasons where he suffered significant injuries. You've got to factor in wear and tear, and aging.
A player can have a serious injury in their career, seemingly recover for a couple of years, but it will have an impact in the end 9 times out of 10. Thiago has had a few of them.
I'm sorry but serious injuries 8+9 years ago, and that didn't carried over into the following seasons (and are not the same injuries he's suffered since here) really carry no validity in whether he's more prone to injury now than our other players.
There may be some truth in the 'wear and tear' claim. But also in that sports medicine has improved in leaps and bounds.
Yeh I'll keep banging the drum. FSG are cunts, and it's time they opened their wallets or sold us to someone with some serious money and real love for football.
Sure...
But the truth is, since he's been here, he's proven to be injury prone. So you can throw your rose tinted glasses on all you like.
21/22 - 14 games missed and counting
20/21 - 21 games missed
19/20 - 10 games
18/19 - 7 games
17/18 - 20 games
16/17 - 5 games
15/16 - 6 games
14/15 - 26 games
13/14 - 39 games
12/13 - 12 games
But yeah, this isn't an injury prone player. And long term, serious injuries, in lots of different areas, don't have a cumulative effect over time. Aging certainly doesn't aggravate the situation.
No. If it wasn't for Richarlison and Covid, he'd be outrunning Milner's distance covered every game, as well as playing every reserve fixture too, and doing triathlons in his spare time.
They are not Rose they are Red. And again ... context. Including games missed because of a red card tackle or Corona ? Deduct those and there isn't anything that unusual unless we go back 8-9 years.
Though the more I look at them the more I'm coming around to your way of thinking. Lots of niggles rather than serious injuries.
I think this answers that question 😉
21-22 : 14 to date
20-21 : 30 games
19-20 : 40 games
18-19 : 42 games
17-18 : 32 games
16-17 : 41 games
15-16 : 42 games
Obviously, yeah, corona is an unforeseen, unfortunate circumstance, and I do have some sympathy with the Richarlison challenge.
But those tackles happen in football, and some people get over them quicker than others. And as Momo said, wasn't he only meant to be out for a couple of weeks and it turned into months?
We would've had to hope things went against the trend, as well as hoping his fitness levels didn't wane as he got older. It was a very risky deal.
It's a shame, like, because he's class. But I would've kept Wijnaldum and not bothered with Thiago all things considered.
The midfield is one area where I can't place the blame 100% on FSG. We had Keita and Ox and it was Klopp and Edwards who pushed for Thiago. We cant afford to have three unreliable midfielders.
No I agree but we haven't really invested in that area for 18 months and the players we mentioned as a combination are just too unreliable to maintain a title challenge with Man City. Often, midfield has been the difference between us and city over the last 6 yrs. If we had immediate stand out options from youth squad then would understand but Jones has never really convinced and he's also proven to be unreliable injury wise too.
I think the lack of investment at the start of this season to get someone in reliable even if on loan is down to FSG.
But saying that, I would have accepted Saul and he looks useless so what do I know? 😉
I think the lack of investment at the start of this season to get someone in reliable even if on loan is down to FSG.
But saying that, I would have accepted Saul and he looks useless so what do I know? 😉
Klopp said he's not out until end of the season. March isn't in his mind. Back in rehab from Monday. But still no timeframe on it.
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Only starting rehab tomorrow? There’s another 6 week layoff.
Hmmm yeh I did think how long is rehab
He will be back by the end of may and squeeze in a 6 week lay off before the champions league final.
We have Ox and Keita who are on 100K plus and Thiago on 150k plus. Then we have Milner who cannot be expected to play reliably at a high level who is also on 100K plus. Hendo who is on 150K plus is also not the most reliable in terms of fitness and as he ages he can very well enter Ox, Keita, Thiago territory in terms of availability. We cannot carry so many players at this high level wages for midfield. I don't blame FSG for not sanctioning another midfield purchase or loan signing when we have 400-500K per week of wages who cannot be reliably expected to start. This one is on Klopp and Edwards. FSG deserve the blame for not refreshing our squad in attack and defense.
He will be back for boxing day with Harvey
Well... it’s something around his hip... which means his hip is the only bit of his body that we were able to salvage and we have to grow all the other bits from.
We need to invest in a bacta tank like the one Boba Fett has.
We need to invest in a bacta tank like the one Boba Fett has.
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