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The yanks are screwing us over again

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Rafael Benítez is unlikely to be given any of the proceeds from player sales during the January transfer window to reinvest in new signings this month once the arrival of Maxi Rodríguez is confirmed.

The Atlético Madrid and Argentina winger is expected to cost £1.5 million and join on an 18-month deal. Benítez is also looking for a loan recruit in defence after Glen Johnson, the right back, was ruled out for at least a month with a knee injury.

Four fringe members of the Liverpool squad could leave the club in the coming weeks: Andrea Dossena, Philipp Degen and Andriy Voronin have been earmarked for the exit door and Ryan Babel is the subject of serious interest from Birmingham City. The money recouped from their potential sales could total in excess of £15 million.

Napoli have agreed a £4.4 million fee for Dossena, the defender, who is set to complete the move back to his native Italy once personal terms have been agreed; Voronin, the forward, is on the brink of signing for Dynamo Moscow in a deal worth about £2 million; and Degen is the subject of interest from several clubs in Germany, with Stuttgart leading the race for the defender’s services.

Birmingham have offered £9 million for Babel but that bid is likely to be rebuffed because the Holland forward is keen to hold out for a move to the Continent. Galatasaray, who are coached by Frank Rijkaard, Babel’s countryman, are one of a number of clubs ready to enter the race for his services.

Although the Liverpool manager is working without a transfer war chest, club insiders insist that that policy has not been forced on him by Liverpool’s estimated £250 million debts and resultant interest payments, believed to be in the region of £30 million a year.

However, critics of George Gillett Jr and Tom Hicks, the co-owners, may dispute that assessment. And should Liverpool not make any significant investment in their playing squad it will serve only to reinforce Benítez’s recent assertion that the club’s priority has shifted from trophy gathering to debt reduction.

In August, Benítez broke even on incomings and outgoings in August and in the previous transfer window, last January, the sale of Robbie Keane to Tottenham Hotspur for a fee in the region of £15 million was the only significant activity involving Liverpool.

Should Liverpool go a third transfer window without making any significant investment in their squad it will serve only to reinforce Benítez’s recent assertion that the club’s priority has shifted from trophy gathering to debt reduction.

Speaking last month, the Spaniard conceded that Liverpool’s hopes of challenging for the title this season were undermined by the need for the club to reduce their outstanding debts. Well off the pace set by Chelsea, the Premier League leaders, Liverpool’s main aim for the campaign is to qualify for next season’s Champions League, but even that aspiration is far from being a foregone conclusion because they languish in seventh place behind Tottenham Hotspur, Manchester City and Aston Villa, their fellow contenders to finish in the top four.

Any hopes that the purse strings would be loosened in an attempt to fund a drive to guarantee their top-four status have been dashed and Benítez will be faced with the prospect of improving the fortunes of a squad that has struggled desperately at times this season without recourse to even a limited spending spree.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/liverpool/article6977050.ece
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=38291.msg1027342#msg1027342 date=1262729034]
It might make him think twice about buying shit, unecessary or injured players. I'm all for it.
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we need a striker and other players and now they wont let us spend money we raise from sales, it's a fucking disgrace
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=38291.msg1027342#msg1027342 date=1262729034]
It might make him think twice about buying shit, unecessary or injured players. I'm all for it.
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they should just sack him if that's the point they're making....which they aren't.
 
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=38291.msg1027347#msg1027347 date=1262729172]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=38291.msg1027342#msg1027342 date=1262729034]
It might make him think twice about buying shit, unecessary or injured players. I'm all for it.
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we need a striker and other players and now they wont let us spend money we raise from sales, it's a fucking disgrace
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I wouldn't give him any cash either. He's fucking shite at spending it wisely.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=38291.msg1027352#msg1027352 date=1262729214]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=38291.msg1027347#msg1027347 date=1262729172]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=38291.msg1027342#msg1027342 date=1262729034]
It might make him think twice about buying shit, unecessary or injured players. I'm all for it.
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we need a striker and other players and now they wont let us spend money we raise from sales, it's a fucking disgrace
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I wouldn't give him any cash either. He's fucking shite at spending it wisely.
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Yeah that Fernando Torres bought for £20m now worth £80m, he's fucking shite. That shite player Reina signed for £6m, total shite
 
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=38291.msg1027354#msg1027354 date=1262729351]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=38291.msg1027352#msg1027352 date=1262729214]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=38291.msg1027347#msg1027347 date=1262729172]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=38291.msg1027342#msg1027342 date=1262729034]
It might make him think twice about buying shit, unecessary or injured players. I'm all for it.
[/quote]

we need a striker and other players and now they wont let us spend money we raise from sales, it's a fucking disgrace
[/quote]

I wouldn't give him any cash either. He's fucking shite at spending it wisely.
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Yeah that Fernando Torres bought for £20m now worth £80m, he's fucking shite. That shite player Reina signed for £6m, total shite
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He's bought more shite than good.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=38291.msg1027356#msg1027356 date=1262729382]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=38291.msg1027354#msg1027354 date=1262729351]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=38291.msg1027352#msg1027352 date=1262729214]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=38291.msg1027347#msg1027347 date=1262729172]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=38291.msg1027342#msg1027342 date=1262729034]
It might make him think twice about buying shit, unecessary or injured players. I'm all for it.
[/quote]

we need a striker and other players and now they wont let us spend money we raise from sales, it's a fucking disgrace
[/quote]

I wouldn't give him any cash either. He's fucking shite at spending it wisely.
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Yeah that Fernando Torres bought for £20m now worth £80m, he's fucking shite. That shite player Reina signed for £6m, total shite
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He's bought more shite than good.
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No he hasn't, as I said Torres is worth £80m sell him tomorrow and Benitez has spent fuck all on a net basis and pays for any mistakes. Reina, the same. the squad is worth hundreds of millions of pounds, which wouldn't be the case if he had truly signed total shite as you claim. Instead, you''d rather stand with the owners as they STEAL another £15m out of the club and condemn us to look for freebies, which no doubt you will slate Benitez for signing
 
Are they taking the money out of the club ?

Have they ever taken money out of the club ?
 
Please bear in mind that Headwand also claimed Drossena would be a 'boss signing' and that Lucas should play ahead of Alonso

I think it's fair to say that, at best, his opinions are somewhat 'unconventional'
 
Keane sold for £15m, NOT REPLACED - where did it go ?

Now they want to do the same shit again and they wonder why our squad is unbalanced and why we're 7th in the league

it must be all Benitez's fault !

If i told you what I truly thought of some posters round here i'd be banned
 
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=38291.msg1027370#msg1027370 date=1262729733]
Keane sold for £15m, NOT REPLACED - where did it go ?

Now they want to do the same shit again and they wonder why our squad is unbalanced and why we're 7th in the league

it must be all Benitez's fault !

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Errrrm. You missed out the bit where Benitez bought the fucking dud for 20 million big ones in the first place. A small point but still an important one.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=38291.msg1027372#msg1027372 date=1262729780]
Everybody knows we've got debt issues, they aren't pocketing the money (yet)
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they're not making it available to re-invest in the team, a stupid and ridiculous short sighted move that will see us become less competitive

what they're saying is we can't ever buy another player again, we must always go for free players and if we have to sell a player the manager wont see that money.

All because we have enormous debts for the pleasure of being owned by 2 cunts.

But everything is Benitez's fault of course.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=38291.msg1027372#msg1027372 date=1262729780]
Everybody knows we've got debt issues, they aren't pocketing the money (yet)
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i must say, i think you were the only one who saw the stone cold reality of this takeover as it happened ( on here ).

this debt is crippling us, and they were never gonna be 'sugar daddies' so what else did we, and moores, expect?
 
[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=38291.msg1027349#msg1027349 date=1262729188]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=38291.msg1027342#msg1027342 date=1262729034]
It might make him think twice about buying shit, unecessary or injured players. I'm all for it.
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they should just sack him if that's the point they're making
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Here's hoping.
 
We're 7th in the league because Benitez bought and sold Keane for a 6m loss in 6 months; replaced Alonso with a crocked, unproven lightweight; thought Lucas and Masher was a good enough partnership to tide us over, and wasted tens of millions on fucking shit players like Drossena, Lucarse, Riera, Voronin, Degen, Zorba, Insua, Skittles et al
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=38291.msg1027381#msg1027381 date=1262730084]
[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=38291.msg1027349#msg1027349 date=1262729188]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=38291.msg1027342#msg1027342 date=1262729034]
It might make him think twice about buying shit, unecessary or injured players. I'm all for it.
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they should just sack him if that's the point they're making
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Here's hoping.
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that's fair enough, but don't confuse the issues. the owners are a fucking disaster, and they will be a big hindrance when/if we need a new manager in the near future.
 
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=38291.msg1027378#msg1027378 date=1262729964]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=38291.msg1027372#msg1027372 date=1262729780]
Everybody knows we've got debt issues, they aren't pocketing the money (yet)
[/quote]

they're not making it available to re-invest in the team, a stupid and ridiculous short sighted move that will see us become less competitive

what they're saying is we can't ever buy another player again, we must always go for free players and if we have to sell a player the manager wont see that money.

All because we have enormous debts for the pleasure of being owned by 2 cunts.

But everything is Benitez's fault of course.

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Stupid and shortsighted would be going out and splashing out tens of millions of pounds (particularly with Rafa in charge) following a financial year where you lost £36m. Mind you he still spent £40m (on the wrong players)

Yes Rebel, we'll never ever buy another player again. Never.

I think most people understand we're reigning in spending because we simply have to for the club to survive.
 
Sheik are you really oblivious to what is happening? my god... do you really think Benitez is the problem at Liverpool, that only if he was sacked a new man was brought in to operarte under these ABSURD restrictions everything would be rosy again? come on now, don't be fucking silly

Benitez is the least of our worries, infact i'm greatful we have a manager of his calibre because i promise you anyone else with these sort of restrictions would be doing a LOT worse.
 
Mods, can we please let rebel say what he thinks of people without him being banned? It could be funny.
It doesn't have to turn into the slanging match as we know what most people think of him anyway.
 
[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=38291.msg1027379#msg1027379 date=1262729979]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=38291.msg1027372#msg1027372 date=1262729780]
Everybody knows we've got debt issues, they aren't pocketing the money (yet)
[/quote]

i must say, i think you were the only one who saw the stone cold reality of this takeover as it happened ( on here ).

this debt is crippling us, and they were never gonna be 'sugar daddies' so what else did we, and moores, expect?
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It could be worse though. We could have spent -£60m last summer, and could now be looking to raise £600m in further debt to clear some current debt.
 
[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=38291.msg1027384#msg1027384 date=1262730197]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=38291.msg1027381#msg1027381 date=1262730084]
[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=38291.msg1027349#msg1027349 date=1262729188]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=38291.msg1027342#msg1027342 date=1262729034]
It might make him think twice about buying shit, unecessary or injured players. I'm all for it.
[/quote]

they should just sack him if that's the point they're making
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Here's hoping.
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that's fair enough, but don't confuse the issues. the owners are a fucking disaster, and they will be a big hindrance when/if we need a new manager in the near future.
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I'm not confusing the issue Skulls, they're a pair of twats. I still wouldn't trust Benitez with the cash though.
 
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