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The United/liverpool hate

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I go on the "Echo" website every day, but the pop-up ads are a nightmare. It's difficult to read the text because it keeps being forced out by the pop-ups.
 
I go on the "Echo" website every day, but the pop-up ads are a nightmare. It's difficult to read the text because it keeps being forced out by the pop-ups.
Pop up blockers could be the way to go then.
 
fine, carry on telling everyone that the Echo and its editorial team are actually a bunch of undercover Mancs with an anti-Liverpool agenda, simply because Trinity Mirror print the paper in Manchester.

It's not at all embarrassingly paranoid and stupid

A lot of evertonians boycott it cos all they seem to talk about is LFC!

I haven't really noticed any anti Liverpool bias to be honest. I don't buy the paper much though, I can view all the latest news on the app which is free!
 
Downloaded!

Works a treat. Thanks for the tip. 🙂

Adblock Plus allows some whitelisted ads to go through - it's an option that's enabled by default, so you'll have to go and uncheck it. Can't remember what the actual name of the option is but it's quite easy to see. Adblock Plus actually earns money from those ad companies that pay them to be included in that whitelist. While you can disable that whitelist like I said, I find that arrangement pretty distasteful. Hence why I've switched to ublock Origin instead, which works just as well and, as far as I know, doesn't have such arrangements.
 
Well I guess any free app that doesn't itself have adverts, like Adblock Plus, needs to raise money somehow to pay for providing the service.

But I'm just capitalist-minded.
 
Adblock Plus allows some whitelisted ads to go through - it's an option that's enabled by default, so you'll have to go and uncheck it. Can't remember what the actual name of the option is but it's quite easy to see. Adblock Plus actually earns money from those ad companies that pay them to be included in that whitelist. While you can disable that whitelist like I said, I find that arrangement pretty distasteful. Hence why I've switched to ublock Origin instead, which works just as well and, as far as I know, doesn't have such arrangements.
Yep, I use ublock origin too. It's apparently less resource hungry than Adblock Plus too.
 
I think that period - maybe even that game- when Kenny said the interviewer would get more sense from his baby daughter than Ferguson, that was probably the shift in intensity. There was real violence bubbling away under the surface at that time that simply hadn't been so evident before. After that it was black and white, good and bad, a manichean battle.
 
You'd expect the King to find a brutish thug like Ferguson offensive, and you'd expect him to say so.

Incidentally, while he'd have been right about his baby daughter then, she's gone native since. These days I find her superficial and altogether too "media slick", false Northern vowels and all.
 
It wasn't all Ferguson.

We CS gassed their team getting off the coach under Atkinson in the 80's. Plus we regularly lost our games with them when we won the league all the time. It was their cup final and whilst we were arsed at losing to them, the league title on a regular basis dulled that pain.

The slightly weird thing is the young twenty somethings singing about Hillsborough or Heysel or Munich. That's legacy hatred.

Some bloke recently started telling me that Hillsborough was a result of Heysel or some such bollocks. He was about 21 odd, but pushed his opinion as fact. I went through a range of emotions, psychopathic rage, mocking sarcasm, the utter pity for the cunt, as he obviously couldn't form his own opinions using some facts.

Oh yeah and Utd? Hate the cunts...
 
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I go on the "Echo" website every day, but the pop-up ads are a nightmare. It's difficult to read the text because it keeps being forced out by the pop-ups.

I agree that lots of online advertising is intrusive and makes the reading experience much poorer, but how else would you suggest the Liverpool Echo makes money to pay for the content it provides?
 
I agree that lots of online advertising is intrusive and makes the reading experience much poorer, but how else would you suggest the Liverpool Echo makes money to pay for the content it provides?

It's a fair point, but surely the poorer reading experience will just drive readers away in the long run.
 
I agree that lots of online advertising is intrusive and makes the reading experience much poorer, but how else would you suggest the Liverpool Echo makes money to pay for the content it provides?

I agree that the Internet has created a nightmare for the newspaper industry, and they can only make the Internet versions of their papers viable with advertising. However, I think the advertising has to be done in a user-friendly way. Before I downloaded the blocker kindly recommended by @cloggypop, it was quite painful trying to read a story in the Echo. The pop-ups kept jumping up when I was trying to read an article, and I had to scroll down to find the material I had been reading.

I think Google showed how to make money out of advertising without upsetting the users. When Google started, there were already several search engines available, but their home pages were crammed with ugly, distracting adverts. Google were clever enough to present the user with a lovely, clean blank screen with the search box in the middle of it. I instantly adopted Google as my search engine of choice.
 
I agree that the Internet has created a nightmare for the newspaper industry, and they can only make the Internet versions of their papers viable with advertising. However, I think the advertising has to be done in a user-friendly way. Before I downloaded the blocker kindly recommended by @cloggypop, it was quite painful trying to read a story in the Echo. The pop-ups kept jumping up when I was trying to read an article, and I had to scroll down to find the material I had been reading.

I think Google showed how to make money out of advertising without upsetting the users. When Google started, there were already several search engines available, but their home pages were crammed with ugly, distracting adverts. Google were clever enough to present the user with a lovely, clean blank screen with the search box in the middle of it. I instantly adopted Google as my search engine of choice.

Google showed how to make money by simply aggregating* content and creating none of their own, which does tend to keep your overheads quite low.

See also: Facebook.

(*that's digital speak for "stealing")

However, the aggressive technological arms race to monetize digital content by ever-increasingly intrusive advertising is royally FUCKING everyone, because it's offensively shit and ruins the experience.

Ad Tech companies are like: "Yeah, we've got this amazing new ad format and what it does is slowly dissolve the editorial content that the audience came for, about halfway through the article, and instead overlays it with a commercial message which is an unskippable 45 second video about car insurance. It's guaranteed to deliver impact at 100% viewability!"

"Won't everyone absolutely hate that?"

"What?"
 
I agree that lots of online advertising is intrusive and makes the reading experience much poorer, but how else would you suggest the Liverpool Echo makes money to pay for the content it provides?

Our local paper recently went behind a paywall. Only 5 articles per month if you're not a subscriber.
 
Our local paper recently went behind a paywall. Only 5 articles per month if you're not a subscriber.
Can you not just view it in Chrome incognito although closing it down and opening another after every five articles might wear after a while
 
The hatred between the two sets of supporters long precedes Ferguson. I can remember a game in the early 70s when it kicked off massively in the Anfield Road End and the persistent aggravation with United fans meant that the Anfield Road terrace was partitioned for the first time for a United game in 1975. A visit to Old Trafford to watch us in 1972 proved to be one of the scariest experiences I've ever had in a football ground.
 
Yes, there wasn't any crowd segregation in the early 1970's. In some grounds, you could actually walk round to the other end at half-time!
 
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