The United/liverpool hate

[Portly]

When Liverpool Reserves played their home games at Wrexham's ground, I used to go to watch the matches with my son, who had an arrangement with Dunk of Koptalk to cover the games. The half-time pies were lovely, although pretty expensive. Money is not a factor where pies are concerned, though.

 

[darkstarexodus]

Can you not just view it in Chrome incognito although closing it down and opening another after every five articles might wear after a while

Not sure. I'll have to try. Haven't coughed up for a subscription yet.

 

[darkstarexodus]

Well, that's no guarantee of success either, it's OK if you're The Times or the FT, maybe.

Surely the Echo would have sufficient readership. Liverpool is about the same size as where I live

 

[jexykrodic]

Echo is mostly about Liverpool FC, other than that it's full of nuts and sluts. Nobody in their right mind would subscribe to it in it's current format.

Just look at the top ten articles read on a daily basis, usually about 7 of the 10 are about Liverpool FC.

 

[tombrown]

When Liverpool Reserves played their home games at Wrexham's ground, I used to go to watch the matches with my son, who had an arrangement with Dunk of Koptalk to cover the games. The half-time pies were lovely, although pretty expensive. Money is not a factor where pies are concerned, though.

That way of thinking may well have been part of Dunk's problems. I heard he recently had to have his wheelie bin reinforced

 

[cloggypop]

That way of thinking may well have been part of Dunk's problems. I heard he recently had to have his wheelie bin reinforced

Did he set up a Just Giving page for it?

 

[Portly]

Of course Dunk proved erratic in paying my son for the agreed fees for the reserve match reviews, and the arrangement ended. This was a relief to me on two counts. Firstly, my son is one of those people who have to be late for everything, so I always ended up tearing along the North Wales roads at breakneck speed, and the North Wales police are particularly hot on speeding. Secondly, besides allocating me the job of chauffeur, my son also expected to take action photos to accompany the match reports.

 

[mark1975]

I agree that the Internet has created a nightmare for the newspaper industry, and they can only make the Internet versions of their papers viable with advertising. However, I think the advertising has to be done in a user-friendly way. Before I downloaded the blocker kindly recommended by @cloggypop, it was quite painful trying to read a story in the Echo. The pop-ups kept jumping up when I was trying to read an article, and I had to scroll down to find the material I had been reading.

I think Google showed how to make money out of advertising without upsetting the users. When Google started, there were already several search engines available, but their home pages were crammed with ugly, distracting adverts. Google were clever enough to present the user with a lovely, clean blank screen with the search box in the middle of it. I instantly adopted Google as my search engine of choice.

The Mirror website is the same (as the ECHO) when accessed through a tablet/phone, the ads just become intrusive and you end up giving up. There are a couple of Newpaper sites that are like that, it makes for a poor user experience. When you consider that people often open these sites from links to news stories, it's obvious that users who know through experience what each site is like, will click on the more user friendly ones to read a story.

MSN manages it quite well, they have ALOT of advertising but it's in a margin at the right of the page, with more links to advertisers in banners and at the foot of the page. No pop ups, no intrusive auto-play videos that stop your page dead.