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The scientific reason you are gay !!

[quote author=Fox link=topic=25523.msg627885#msg627885 date=1216980660]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=25523.msg627870#msg627870 date=1216979833]
just apologize Fox.
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Why who is gay on here?

Only kidding, I admit "fault" should of been "choice" but thats how I remember the TV show. I never suiggested that saying I had a gay mate was like saying I cannot be racist because I have a black mate, that was other folks comparisum.

Everything else I have said I stand by, I could never be in a place where two fellas are kissing, sorry if that is incorrect in your PC eyes forum folk.

I really suspect there is a lack of honesty on here sometimes.

I thought talking about this TV show would be a cool friday debate, seems I over estimated the forum


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Everyone went over that on that Brendan thread a few months ago - and opinions were laid out rather honestly by most (I think it's even the reason why Ali basically stopped posting). Oh well - people here are not always honest but what do you expect ...

Your choice of words was very poor though - when discussing a serious subject on a sensitive matter, better terminology is needed.
 
Fuckin el. Fox you really are a stupid bastard sometimes - you do yourself no favours at all. Anyway I saw it. Apparently the higher the number of older brothers you have - the higher the chance of you being a homosexual. Pure bollocks. You're not telling me the three youngest lads in Seven Brides for Seven Brothers were in all in denial.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=25523.msg627866#msg627866 date=1216979784]
Latent.
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yeh distinct possibility. It would also explain the frequent overcompensation.

fox, you are gagging for it mate.
 
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=25523.msg627889#msg627889 date=1216980867]
[quote author=Fox link=topic=25523.msg627885#msg627885 date=1216980660]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=25523.msg627870#msg627870 date=1216979833]
just apologize Fox.
[/quote]

Why who is gay on here?

Only kidding, I admit "fault" should of been "choice" but thats how I remember the TV show. I never suiggested that saying I had a gay mate was like saying I cannot be racist because I have a black mate, that was other folks comparisum.

Everything else I have said I stand by, I could never be in a place where two fellas are kissing, sorry if that is incorrect in your PC eyes forum folk.

I really suspect there is a lack of honesty on here sometimes.

I thought talking about this TV show would be a cool friday debate, seems I over estimated the forum


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Everyone went over that on that Brendan thread a few months ago - and opinions were laid out rather honestly by most (I think it's even the reason why Ali basically stopped posting). Oh well - people here are not always honest but what do you expect ...

Your choice of words was very poor though - when discussing a serious subject on a sensitive matter, better terminology is needed.
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choice of words maybe, this is an internet forum not "Tricia", its a faceless debate so you should be able to be honest, fucks sake no one criticises Brendan's language and amazing abuse to lots of folk on here so why criticise terminology of words around correctness.

People contribute to internet forums to talk about things they could not really talk about in public, I am sure wimp boy Brendan does not call folk thick cunts to their face does he.

This place is harder on folk than the BBC, Geoff Boycott on radio 5 the other day was talking about black cricketers that have joined his beloved Yorkshire and he referred to them as "coloured" 5 or 6 times in the interview, no one said a thing, on here you would be destroyed.

Its because the forum is made up of middle class office workers rather than working class footy fans 8)
 
If anyones 'middle class' here it's Fox.


Can somebody pass the cucumber sandwiches and Pimms please ?
 
[quote author=foureyes link=topic=25523.msg627903#msg627903 date=1216981457]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=25523.msg627866#msg627866 date=1216979784]
Latent.
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yeh distinct possibility. It would also explain the frequent overcompensation.

fox, you are gagging for it mate.
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I have not older brothers and my wedding and index fingers are the correct length for straight men.

FACTs cannot lie ;D

Bunch of PC lecturing barstards 😉
 
[quote author=livvy185 link=topic=25523.msg627914#msg627914 date=1216982101]
I'm the eldest of four lads. Just so you all know.
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Fuck off. Youngest I'd say. With that knee stroking technique you'd have to be.
 
Regardless of who is what, its hardly a badge to wear to evidence you arent fucking vermin is it.
Oh i grew up in poverty therefore im allowed to be a bigot. You posh cunts with your tollerence would never understand. Me i call a fag a fag, im dead honest, arent i great.
 
There was nothing overly wrong with Fox saying "fault" initially - calling him out on that is way harsh.

All the shit afterwards though, heh... he really doesn't do himself any favours at times.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=25523.msg627924#msg627924 date=1216982244]
Regardless of who is what, its hardly a badge to wear to evidence you arent fucking vermin is it.
Oh i grew up in poverty therefore im allowed to be a bigot. You posh cunts with your tollerence would never understand. Me i call a fag a fag, im dead honest, arent i great.
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shut it oncey you really are a dog with a bone.

As for you saying you don't like me well who cares, you have enough toungues and noses up your arse on here without requiring me to be a oncey fan.

so you are MR PC, hero of the day who tolerates everything and everyone,, well done you.

Your opinions are law, as you are the king of SCM, we all know that
 
You lot need to go bite some pillows or something.......

lighten up.......

And there was me thinking Fox was from Portsmouth! The Royal Navy's Dockyard and hive of Gays / Lesbians.........

*Before you start I am taking the piss*

My gf's daughter is a dyke

ha ha
 
[quote author=Fox link=topic=25523.msg627942#msg627942 date=1216983237]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=25523.msg627924#msg627924 date=1216982244]
Regardless of who is what, its hardly a badge to wear to evidence you arent fucking vermin is it.
Oh i grew up in poverty therefore im allowed to be a bigot. You posh cunts with your tollerence would never understand. Me i call a fag a fag, im dead honest, arent i great.
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shut it oncey you really are a dog with a bone.

As for you saying you don't like me well who cares, you have enough toungues and noses up your arse on here without requiring me to be a oncey fan.

so you are MR PC, hero of the day who tolerates everything and everyone,, well done you.

Your opinions are law, as you are the king of SCM, we all know that
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Oh dear.

*Licks Oncy*
 
[quote author=livvy185 link=topic=25523.msg627947#msg627947 date=1216983376]

*Licks Oncy*
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Two timer.
 
[quote author=Bernowatson link=topic=25523.msg627945#msg627945 date=1216983271]
You lot need to go bite some pillows or something.......

lighten up.......

And there was me thinking Fox was from Portsmouth! The Royal Navy's Dockyard and hive of Gays / Lesbians.........

*Before you start I am taking the piss*

My gf's daughter is a dyke

ha ha
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;D
 
I never said i didnt like you, i said you are being a twat.

And i wish youd stop using PC as if it was an insult.
I find your opinions regarding homosexuality offensive and ignorant. Im not overly pc i dont think, but i dont think anyone should accept ignorance blindly, and talking about my class (of which you know nothing) wont change that.
Peace.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=25523.msg627954#msg627954 date=1216983620]
I never said i didnt like you, i said you are being a twat.

And i wish youd stop using PC as if it was an insult.
I find your opinions regarding homosexuality offensive and ignorant. Im not overly pc i dont think, but i dont think anyone should accept ignorance blindly, and talking about my class (of which you know nothing) wont change that.
Peace.
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Gayer.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=25523.msg627954#msg627954 date=1216983620]
I never said i didnt like you, i said you are being a twat.

And i wish youd stop using PC as if it was an insult.
I find your opinions regarding homosexuality offensive and ignorant. Im not overly pc i dont think, but i dont think anyone should accept ignorance blindly, and talking about my class (of which you know nothing) wont change that.
Peace.
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you said "Just when i think youre okay, you go and prove yourself a total fucking cockend all over again.
Twat."

That means you like me does it 😱 ???


Anyway, who cares, I am angry thats all I really wanted to debate the science of this and failed miserably once again on here due to folk picking up on terminology - that is fucking annoying and you are one of the worst culprits for doing that rather than debating the ACTUAL subject matter

PC is not an unsult I agree its just a different way of thinking to someone who is non PC on a certain subject, do we have to agree on everything, NO !!

Cue : stop posting today and enjoy weekend before I explode, I suggest you do the same.

How is the arse, hard to sit down i bet with all those toungues and noses up there 😱
 
[quote author=Fox link=topic=25523.msg627974#msg627974 date=1216984939]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=25523.msg627954#msg627954 date=1216983620]
I never said i didnt like you, i said you are being a twat.

And i wish youd stop using PC as if it was an insult.
I find your opinions regarding homosexuality offensive and ignorant. Im not overly pc i dont think, but i dont think anyone should accept ignorance blindly, and talking about my class (of which you know nothing) wont change that.
Peace.
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you said "Just when i think youre okay, you go and prove yourself a total fucking cockend all over again.
Twat."

That means you like me does it 😱 ???


Anyway, who cares, I am angry thats all I really wanted to debate the science of this and failed miserably once again on here due to folk picking up on terminology - that is fucking annoying and you are one of the worst culprits for doing that rather than debating the ACTUAL subject matter

PC is not an unsult I agree its just a different way of thinking to someone who is non PC on a certain subject, do we have to agree on everything, NO !!

Cue : stop posting today and enjoy weekend before I explode, I suggest you do the same.

How is the arse, hard to sit down i bet with all those toungues and noses up there 😱
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Christ almighty. Turn it in. Pleeeease.
 
[quote author=Fox link=topic=25523.msg627904#msg627904 date=1216981511]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=25523.msg627889#msg627889 date=1216980867]
[quote author=Fox link=topic=25523.msg627885#msg627885 date=1216980660]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=25523.msg627870#msg627870 date=1216979833]
just apologize Fox.
[/quote]

Why who is gay on here?

Only kidding, I admit "fault" should of been "choice" but thats how I remember the TV show. I never suiggested that saying I had a gay mate was like saying I cannot be racist because I have a black mate, that was other folks comparisum.

Everything else I have said I stand by, I could never be in a place where two fellas are kissing, sorry if that is incorrect in your PC eyes forum folk.

I really suspect there is a lack of honesty on here sometimes.

I thought talking about this TV show would be a cool friday debate, seems I over estimated the forum


[/quote]

Everyone went over that on that Brendan thread a few months ago - and opinions were laid out rather honestly by most (I think it's even the reason why Ali basically stopped posting). Oh well - people here are not always honest but what do you expect ...

Your choice of words was very poor though - when discussing a serious subject on a sensitive matter, better terminology is needed.
[/quote]


choice of words maybe, this is an internet forum not "Tricia", its a faceless debate so you should be able to be honest, fucks sake no one criticises Brendan's language and amazing abuse to lots of folk on here so why criticise terminology of words around correctness.

People contribute to internet forums to talk about things they could not really talk about in public, I am sure wimp boy Brendan does not call folk thick cunts to their face does he.

This place is harder on folk than the BBC, Geoff Boycott on radio 5 the other day was talking about black cricketers that have joined his beloved Yorkshire and he referred to them as "coloured" 5 or 6 times in the interview, no one said a thing, on here you would be destroyed.

Its because the forum is made up of middle class office workers rather than working class footy fans 8)


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are you implying that the working class are thick?
 
[quote author=Fox link=topic=25523.msg627842#msg627842 date=1216978751]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=25523.msg627832#msg627832 date=1216978332]
[quote author=Fox link=topic=25523.msg627821#msg627821 date=1216978029]
my old boss who I am still mates with says he would rather have been straight due the the fact he would love to have the husband wife and 2.2 kids thing, he doesn't like being different, thats up to him.

Of course society still makes it hard for gay folk but surely its better to be gay today than previous gernerations.

In the show there was a gay fella who "turned straight" he stopped seeing men and got married and had two kids. He said its no different to avoiding chocolate which he knows is not good for him in his life.

Stong mind to do that.
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"I know a black lad who hates being black. He sat in a bleach bath & had to go to hospital."

Just listen to what you are saying & try to look at rationally for fucks sake.
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I don't know this place, you try to talk about an interesting subject which is worth a scientific debate and all folk can talk about is the words you use to start the debate.

For fucks sake John and you Mr Once forget what you think of how I worded my question, make a point about the subject, the science, the possibility of parents finding out if theire un born baby will be gay.

It fuicking annoys me when a thread turns into a personal attack about words used or phrases rather than the subject.

Forum life I suppose, what should I expect.

*****sighs biggest sigh ever*****
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Yes, isn't it absurd that someone should be held accountable for the words they've used. What a strange world we live in.

I might spark an interesting debate about racism with a few choice references to the 'master race' and the inferiority of all non-whites and see how I get on.

To be fair, I don't really blame you. You're not a bad sort. You're just blissfully unaware of your own prejudices, and too stupid to understand them when they're pointed out to you.
 
Bloody hell. Fox is really on a roll on this one. Homosexuality, class, oh and of course the usual 'look at me, look at me' comment about Brendan. I dread to think what this thread could become.

As for the original topic though, I didn't see the programme and I doubt I will bother. Some people are straight, some people are gay. I don't personally see the need for analysing why. It doesn't really matter. And no, I don't go out of my way to be PC and don't consider myself to be PC at all, its just that someone's sexual orientation is of no concern of mine.
 
I guess that none of you watched the same said programme. I did and sadly Foxy's choice of words indicates that he has some kind of issues with the subject.

John Barrowman in the programme looked for a "reason" for him being guy, he looked at several "reasons" why he may be homosexual. He looked into DNA to see if there was a genetic marker that determined that he was gay.
He looked into any action that is parents may have taken when he grew up that determined that he would be gay.
He looked into whether or not there was a family dynamic affected him being gay, e.g an older brother thing.
He also looked into any situation that happen in the womb that might affect his being gay.

John Barrowman was not looking for fault at all that was poor choice of words foxy, he was looking for reasoning, he seemed a very comfortable with his sexuality kind of guy, but yet he searched for reasoning no blame.

i think this summation by delinquent pretty much sums you up fox, now if you could go out and educate yourself that there is no fault or blame involved in homosexuality determination or even choice you would be a fair better individual for it. I would also suggest a lesson in not over-reacting with every poster on here after your little tet a tet with brendan, resentment and anger are not good emotions to have working up inside of you

[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=25523.msg627989#msg627989 date=1216986423]
To be fair, I don't really blame you. You're not a bad sort. You're just blissfully unaware of your own prejudices, and too stupid to understand them when they're pointed out to you.
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I think it's a nature thing rather than a nurture, unlike being camp (which I'm guessing what Fox, bless him, means by 'openly gay') which I believe is a nurture thing.

Btw Fox, sometimes you might actually think to listen to what people are saying, maybe try and understand what they're getting at, digest the implications of that and then ask yourself if they've got a point.

Your posting style sometimes reminds me of a 97 year old granny trying to drive round Milton Keynes - completely oblivious and all over the place
 
Haha... Fox, I love how oblivious you are. It's almost endearing.

Your reply to Marquis' post is the perfect example.
 
[quote author=Mamma Mia link=topic=25523.msg628828#msg628828 date=1217070908]
Haha... Fox, I love how oblivious you are. It's almost endearing.

You're reply to Marquis' post is the perfect example.
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I didn't have the heart to break it to him.
 
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