Sport are saying Coutinho wants to leave in the summer for a 'superior project.'
They go on to say we will only sell for 90 million euros.
Would you sell if they offered us this sum?
If we make the Champions League, would you hold off regardless?
The price is wrong, bitch.
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Sport are saying Coutinho wants to leave in the summer for a 'superior project.'
They go on to say we will only sell for 90 million euros.
Would you sell if they offered us this sum?
If we make the Champions League, would you hold off regardless?
I very much doubt anyone is going to pay 90 million euros for him but for the sake of argument let's say we get offered that.
I love Coutinho but it wouldn't be a hard no. The answer for me would be dependant on what our options are in terms of a replacement.
If we're going to be left scrambling around trying to convince shitty mid-table clubs to let their shitty big fish in a small pond Benteke type stars go for a reasonable price then no. I'm done with that (and I hope the club is too).
If we could go after someone like Isco and / or another player of real quality then I guess it'd be a hard one to turn down.
I love Coutinho but it wouldn't be a hard no. The answer for me would be dependant on what our options are in terms of a replacement.
If we're going to be left scrambling around trying to convince shitty mid-table clubs to let their shitty big fish in a small pond Benteke type stars go for a reasonable price then no. I'm done with that (and I hope the club is too).
If we could go after someone like Isco and / or another player of real quality then I guess it'd be a hard one to turn down.
I'm done with selling our best players.
Yes, he is inconsistent, but if you ignore the injury period within season, & give him a little leeway on performances returning from injury (which is only fair), then he's been much more consistent this season & the improvement has been ramping up every season.
Regardless, he is arguably our best player alongside Mane (I'd actually say Mane is a little more inconsistent), & selling your best players is not conducive to winning shiny things. I want us to win shiny things again, therefore I want us to keep our best players.
Yes, he is inconsistent, but if you ignore the injury period within season, & give him a little leeway on performances returning from injury (which is only fair), then he's been much more consistent this season & the improvement has been ramping up every season.
Regardless, he is arguably our best player alongside Mane (I'd actually say Mane is a little more inconsistent), & selling your best players is not conducive to winning shiny things. I want us to win shiny things again, therefore I want us to keep our best players.
No. I want to keep him for a long period. He will be better and better, and there is no better Project to join!!
Yeah, I'm also done with selling our top players. He, like the rest of our core of good players will only improve when we add more quality to the side this summer. I'm done with staying in the constant rebuilding cycle. Let's actually try to get somewhere.
In a few years time when we're in another position, then maybe it will make more sense for the good of the team and who we can replace him with. But for now, its a big N O.
In a few years time when we're in another position, then maybe it will make more sense for the good of the team and who we can replace him with. But for now, its a big N O.
I should add, whilst I don't want to sell him, & think it'd be a mistake to do so, I'm just as convinced that he is going.
I hope I'm wrong, but we've seen this before. Nice new contract at the end of the season as we get rumour after rumour about Barca wanting him. Feels like groundhog day.
I hope I'm wrong, but we've seen this before. Nice new contract at the end of the season as we get rumour after rumour about Barca wanting him. Feels like groundhog day.
Philippe Coutinho has allayed fears he wants to join Barcelona by insisting he is targeting becoming a Liverpool legend.
Reports in Spain on Tuesday claimed the Liverpool star had agreed to join Barcelona in a summer transfer.
Barcelona are reportedly ready to offer €90 million to Liverpool with the Reds facing a battle at the end of the season to keep their most influential player.
Coutinho attended a dinner for the Former Players end of season awards on Monday night and revealed his future ambitions when he collected the Player of the Season accolade.
‘One day I hope I can win as many trophies for Liverpool as players in the past did,’ Coutinho told the crowd.
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Coutinho has been a constant source of goals this season (Picture: Getty)
Coutinho was the guest of honour at the awards as the current superstar of Liverpool football club.
The 24-year-old has been in fantastic form for Liverpool this season as he has helped the Reds come within touching distance of a return to the Champions League.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/09/phili...ense-barcelona-reports-6624842/#ixzz4gZR3bbBW
Reports in Spain on Tuesday claimed the Liverpool star had agreed to join Barcelona in a summer transfer.
Barcelona are reportedly ready to offer €90 million to Liverpool with the Reds facing a battle at the end of the season to keep their most influential player.
Coutinho attended a dinner for the Former Players end of season awards on Monday night and revealed his future ambitions when he collected the Player of the Season accolade.
‘One day I hope I can win as many trophies for Liverpool as players in the past did,’ Coutinho told the crowd.
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Coutinho has been a constant source of goals this season (Picture: Getty)
Coutinho was the guest of honour at the awards as the current superstar of Liverpool football club.
The 24-year-old has been in fantastic form for Liverpool this season as he has helped the Reds come within touching distance of a return to the Champions League.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/09/phili...ense-barcelona-reports-6624842/#ixzz4gZR3bbBW
I refuse to get my hopes up. Until that transfer window 'slams shut', then I'll be expecting him to go.
If he doesn't then all well & good, we'll have a better chance at feathering our recently sparse nest with some new shiny things.
If he doesn't then all well & good, we'll have a better chance at feathering our recently sparse nest with some new shiny things.
I have a foot in both camps here.
On one hand we'd be very silly to sell arguably one of our best and most important players with hopefully a bright future ahead of him.
On the other hand if the fee quoted is about right, I do believe he's being well over-valued as he's looking worryingly injury-prone and is also lacking consistency. As magnificent he were at the start of the season as bleak has he looked of late.
I hope we don't sell but if we do and the price is up there we can perhaps come out stronger, if, and that is a BIG IF, we replace wisely with cheaper options (two for the price of one kinda).
When Torres and then Suarez left I was devastated as I really feared those would be almost impossible to replace (we managed the first one quite well but are still looking to replace the second) but I wouldn't feel quiet as disheartened should Coutinho move on.
On one hand we'd be very silly to sell arguably one of our best and most important players with hopefully a bright future ahead of him.
On the other hand if the fee quoted is about right, I do believe he's being well over-valued as he's looking worryingly injury-prone and is also lacking consistency. As magnificent he were at the start of the season as bleak has he looked of late.
I hope we don't sell but if we do and the price is up there we can perhaps come out stronger, if, and that is a BIG IF, we replace wisely with cheaper options (two for the price of one kinda).
When Torres and then Suarez left I was devastated as I really feared those would be almost impossible to replace (we managed the first one quite well but are still looking to replace the second) but I wouldn't feel quiet as disheartened should Coutinho move on.
90million is about right, let's not forget sterling is a lot stronger at the moment. Be honest with you I would sell at £70m
There have been rumours for a while that there was a suarez style situation going on with him where he promised us another season (the current season).
But what I'm not clear on was whether the rumour was that it was a season to get in the champions league or he leaves or just another season before he leaves.
But what I'm not clear on was whether the rumour was that it was a season to get in the champions league or he leaves or just another season before he leaves.
There are plenty of examples to the contrary:
Juventus sold Pogba. They are presently top of the league and have a healthy lead in the CL semi. The year previous they sold Vidal - and did a treble immediately afterwards.
And there are plenty of examples of teams continuing to improve after selling their best players. e.g. Spurs selling Keane, Berbatov, Modric, Bale.
They were top of the league before they bought him too, six titles in a row suggests a little more is at play than Juve selling their best player once in a while.
A lot of the clubs that feed the elite tier have become quite good at dealing with this.
We've repeatedly shown that we're not though. That's the big worry.
Its a small sample size though ?
Alonsos replacement we bombed
Torres' - biggest jackpot possible
Mascher - failure
Have we lost any other big players in recent years?
Ok.
I'll clarify. Liverpool FC has proven itself utterly incapable of replacing quality players consistently, & each time we have sold our best players we have regressed as a team.
Torres then Suarez is the arguable exception, but that's pretty unique as he was that good he improved those around him too, & if you remove him from the equation it's hard to argue that selling our best players has proven to strengthen the side in following seasons.
Perhaps Klopp may have the ability to turn that around, but I'd prefer to err on the side of caution & not only keep our best players, but add more of them.
Let's face it, this is the weakest side we've had for a very long time, & the fact an inconsistent Coutinho is our best player highlights that.
I think Juve are an elite club, they just have to balance their spending and be a bit more clever about it than other clubs. They may have sold Pogba for £90m, but they still bought Higuain, Dybala and Pjanic for £140m
I doubt we'd get that made up fee so I'm firmly in the DO NOT SELL camp. I didn't want to sell Sterling, I don't even want to sell Sturridge. I hate selling our better players.
IF Barca come in for him then I presume he'll go. Why wouldn't he? Then it becomes damaged limitations from us. We failed to convince Sanchez to join us last time in the Suarez deal. Would it be easier to convince someone like Rakitic to join us? Swap and cash deals rarely happen so it could be a case of trying to get as much as we can for him and then fingers crossed we spend it wisely. So, the usual story. Therefore, do not sell if possible.
IF Barca come in for him then I presume he'll go. Why wouldn't he? Then it becomes damaged limitations from us. We failed to convince Sanchez to join us last time in the Suarez deal. Would it be easier to convince someone like Rakitic to join us? Swap and cash deals rarely happen so it could be a case of trying to get as much as we can for him and then fingers crossed we spend it wisely. So, the usual story. Therefore, do not sell if possible.
We don't have enough big players to lose. Every sought after player we've had has left us for a bigger/ richer/ more successful club in the last 10 years.
Torres, Masher, Suarez, Alonso, Sterling and now (possibly) Coutinho.
There's nobody else because there's been nobody else anyone wanted to buy.
The reaction to almost every major departure has been poor.
As you say the losses of Alonso and Masher were complete disasters.
The Torres sale seemingly provoked the badly thought through and panicked buy of Carroll. For a record 35M.
We knew for ages that Suarez was going and somehow ended up taking a last minute punt on Balotelli, which cost us a fortune and was useless.
We sold Sterling and started the season with no replacement for his pace and a 32M Benteke that nobody wanted.
There is a consistent trend of having no clear (or good) plan and spending money in a haphazard fashion.
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