Lets see how please you are if we sell Salah and we wait another 30 years to win the title because these cunt are to tight to put their hands in their pockets
The Mo Contract Saga
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Do you think Klopp’s been telling the owners not to spend any money? That he feels so much better not bringing in reinforcements?
Putting blame on Klopp is pretty absurd.
Klopp has wanted a smaller squad ... its part of his ethos ... he also been open in his stance about being fine a much older squad ... these things have unfortunately also played their part in our struggles imo.
They DIDN'T hire Rafa. They DID hire Hodgson.
FFS, that, on its own, is enough to damn them
There is growing optimism at Liverpool that a summer move to land Borussia Dortmund and England midfielder Jude Bellingham, 18, is possible.
Liverpool to prioritise ambitious transfer swoop for elite wonderkid
https://www.caughtoffside.com/2022/01/13/jude-bellingham-liverpool-transfer-priority/
Makes you wonder where this is coming from...Jude Bellingham value in the region of £100m
Will FSG sell Salah?
https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-liverpool-set-sights-on-bowen/
With Klopp also keen on West Ham's 25-year-old English forward Jarrod Bowen who is keen on a move to Liverpool, who remain interested in a summer move.
Where is the money to come from...?
Liverpool to prioritise ambitious transfer swoop for elite wonderkid
https://www.caughtoffside.com/2022/01/13/jude-bellingham-liverpool-transfer-priority/
Makes you wonder where this is coming from...Jude Bellingham value in the region of £100m
Will FSG sell Salah?
https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-liverpool-set-sights-on-bowen/
With Klopp also keen on West Ham's 25-year-old English forward Jarrod Bowen who is keen on a move to Liverpool, who remain interested in a summer move.
Where is the money to come from...?
Did not claim they did. I said that they Backed Rafa in the transfer market which is the point I am making and you are failing to see. FSG fail to do so with Klopp
Press it...Who gives a fuck
There’s a list of players I don’t expect to be here next season.
Milner
Oxlade-Chamberlain
Firmino
Origi
There is about £400k/week there and a single, fit, young player could equal their combined contribution.
We have also paid off Alisson and van Dijk, I don’t know, but that could open the books for additional transfer fees.
PSG...?
£140K reportedly.
Ok - so give that to mo, problem solved
They backed him by loading the club with debt that almost killed the club. They never put their own money in to buy players.
But we would still need to sign a midfielder to replace Milner, he plays on average 20-30 games when fit and we are short of fut able midfield options. There’s no amount of financial gymnastics FSG can do to avoid having to spend some funds to give something to Klopp challenge in the Top 4 or we risk and accept falling and becoming worse than Arsenal.
To be honest, what do we really need funds wise to challenge? It’s not huge really in the grand scheme of things financially.
So Rafa nearly bankrupt us ?
I am not even convinced that they did.
My memory may be failing me slightly here, but as I recall they did spend money in their first few transfer windows but following that I don't think they did.
Benitez didn't seem to think he was being backed at the time. Okay, he rarely ever does, but if we look at net spending (which is not ideal of course, but it is presumably what we are judging FSG on too, as most money we get in usually goes out again) then I am not sure that the previous owners were much better than the current ones.
The current owners are of course a lot better than the previous ones in pretty much every single other way that you might be able to think of. I would be shocked if anyone would argue otherwise.
Elliot and Jones can replace him imo - and hopefully have something to invest in another midfielder.
If he wanted a smaller squad (I’ve never heard him say this), do you think he refused better players to replace the fringe ones, or the first 11 even? Has he insisted Milner be there instead of a world class midfielder? Did he refuse to bring in a world class forward instead of Minamino and Origi? Come on now.
Money from the sale of Coutinho,Sakho etc
Jurgen Klopp's net spend as liverpool manager £104.1M over 6 years and four months.
that equates to an investment in the team of £16.265625M per year
https://lfcglobe.co.uk/liverpool-fc-manager-archive/jurgen-klopp/
I know that, but what I had suggested some years ago was If FSG was to have worked out that they could give Klopp (lets say) £70m over both summer and the January windows, why could they not back Klopp by saying that he could have this years and next year funds£140M, as one lump sum but nothing else for the two years. Then at least Klopp could go after players he rally wants or needs to replace.
Unlike H&G, FSG could do this without puting debt on the club
Did not say that, but his constant demans for players and wasting money on quanity rather than buying quality helped hasten the charge toward bankruptcy
Carragher says it himself in that clip, this is what Liverpool have been so good at - getting players on the cheap who perform way beyond the outlay.
We can’t really maintain being good at that whilst opening the wage floodgates can we?
This is a tough one to get right, we extend for 3 years and he declines to Mane levels quickly then it will have been a terrible extension.
We can’t really maintain being good at that whilst opening the wage floodgates can we?
This is a tough one to get right, we extend for 3 years and he declines to Mane levels quickly then it will have been a terrible extension.
You are overall and I am not agruing that they are not a lot better than the previous ones in pretty much every single other way. I just believe that H&G backed the manager funds wise more, a lot more than FSG
Ok - so you think Klopp is a mensch and won't 'open his mouth' if things are problematic.
Ok - fair. Can't really argue with that.
I think the way he talks about Hendo, who's clearly declining, or Milner, who's clearly past it etc to me makes me feel that he wants these players ... Your question is *would* he replace them if the club gave him a purse etc is one I cannot answer ... so as I said, fair point.
I very much doubt that. What makes you imagine our transfer dealings at the time were any less dependent on the money available than they are now?
I don't expect to see Bobby leave.
Though Karius, Woodburn (600k) and V.d.Berg are all out of contract this year and will leave, likely in addition to Millie (7.3m), Ox (6.25m 2023), Philips (3.4m 2023) and Origi (3.1m 2024), Rhys & Ojo. Circa 425,000 pw for inbounds and renewals.
These contracts expire in 2023 Adrian (3.0m), Mo (10.4m), Mane (5.2m), Keita (6.25m), Bobby (9.4m). I expect all to be renewed (Mo 5 yr, Mane 3 yr, Bobby 2 yr) bar Adrian, because we are simply short of bodies. There is an argument for one to leave but that would likely be based on offers. I'm happy for all three to stay at least another season or two, Mane & Bobby to be slowly rotated out to the bench for Diogo +1.
We're not going to get much back for Keita at the moment and he is a skilful player to have in the midfield group, I'd renew his contract and see where he goes over the next season or two.
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