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The Mo Contract Saga

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If we end this season having extended Henderson but no Salah I think it'll be a complete fuck up. Salah was the #1 contract to sort.
 
Salah is the the exception to the rule, IMO. Doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, fitness fanatic and just a goal machine. He'll be worth the top wages until he's 33/34, and possibly even longer. Plus the money he must bring into the club in terms of exposure is off the charts. Half the Muslim world idolise the man.

Possibly, it depends on his current dietary supplements continuing to be prescribed for the next few years. If they will be, we should pay him. If we suspect his doctors may review his medication / get arrested over the summer, we should sell him without delay.
 
400k a week is obviously obscene (as is 250k and all these other footy figures, fwiw), but that's a completely separate conversation. And it's not like the don't have the cash. Time to pay up
 
They’ll get the cash by upping season tickets by £100 and individual tickets by a tenner a pop.
 
I can imagine his agent being a right cunt to deal with going by his comments in the media.
 
Not sure we've ever come close to paying top wages for anyone, will be very interested to see if we do in the end.

We'd rather lose them and then bemoan how we can't compete. When we can. We just don't want to for *reasons*
 
I can imagine his agent being a right cunt to deal with going by his comments in the media.

Which agent isn’t ?
He’s had the same agent since we had him presumably having signed renewal already, I don’t think agent will be blocker here.
 
Which agent isn’t ?
He’s had the same agent since we had him presumably having signed renewal already, I don’t think agent will be blocker here.

Hansern needs to invent a boogeyman for when this goes wrong.

Leave him to it.
 
Those are all different issues and to my mind unrelated.

  1. He is the best player in the world at the moment, he's not going to drop off a cliff. I can't think of a world Top 3 player that went into that steep a decline. He is irreplaceable because we are not in the market to pay £150m for a player (plus wages). For what he's done for us, for where he stands now ... we paid peanuts. Yes hindsight but reality.

    2. Where are we going to get his 30-40 goals a season from ? Bluebell says buy a midfielder and a replacement striker - so easy to say and do but I could bet you the world they won't be scoring his goals. Far far easier to just find a midfielder and a back up striker than trying to replace the world's best wing forward.

    3. With his fitness levels and the way sports medicine has advanced he'll still be at his peak for a couple more years and likely still worth a starting spot for another two years after that.
He's worth every penny of the salary he's asking for.

The options in front of us are to pay Salah his 400K salary and then the squad continues at the same level or becomes slightly worse with reinforcements not arriving as key players like Milner leave or sell Salah and start the next round of squad building. With FSG's level of spending and balancing the books, I don't think we have the option of keeping Salah and a competitive first 11 and squad.

I am not arguing against the value of Salah. You can see numerous posts of mine vociferously arguing for paying Salah his due. But with time, or rather with every transfer window passing, I am more and more convinced that we can have one or the other - not both.

Also, I feel Salah's use of not wanting crazy money - a little bit disingenuous. Does he deserve to be paid as much as DeBruyne? Of course, yes. But outside of nation-states or billionaire propped clubs, I would say Madrid, Barcelona, and Utd might be the only clubs that pay that salary. For every other club which is trying to balance the books - that is a crazy salary.

I feel like the only way we might have sustained success is if we have star players like Tom Brady and Ben Roethlisberger who are willing to forgo, restructure the wages to accommodate more stars in the pursuit of winning more with us. Football doesn't have a salary cap, but we do.
 
Yeah, it's probably time to accept that we can't afford to keep him and enjoy the next 6 months. Hopefully we can win the champions league and use the Mo Money to rebuild whilst we still have a strong base to build from.
 
I advised when FSG came that they may not be the nights in shining amour they looked.

They spend is little as the can get away with on players. relying on the "buy young players with a re-slable value" plan with means that they would very much like to see Salah leave in return for a large transfer fee in hopes to reinvest they money, while hearing the supports say how great the owners are.

In truth, in many ways I would prefer H&G. Yes they almost bankrupted the club, but atleast they they seem to care about winning, and back their manager with transfer funds even if a lot of that money was wasted.

Here is another thing. I don't believe that Klopp buys the players that he would really like. ie if it was his club and his money the players we see would be his choices
not groups for player chosen by a transfer committee and Klopp asked to chose one or two.
Rodgers claimed as much. point in question Dominic Solanke and Klopp saying that it was the scouts who pointed him out to the club, alluding to that it was the clubs choice to buy him
I believe why klopp does not make this known is somewhere in his contract is a non disclosure clause preventing him from doing so

I would reall love to know just how many who thought FSG were great owners when the first came to the club believes that now.

I would love for the owners of Newcastle to have bought LFC instead

FSG will sell either Salah, Mane or both come the summer window
 
I advised when FSG came that they may not be the nights in shining amour they looked.

They spend is little as the can get away with on players. relying on the "buy young players with a re-slable value" plan with means that they would very much like to see Salah leave in return for a large transfer fee in hopes to reinvest they money, while hearing the supports say how great the owners are.

In truth, in many ways I would prefer H&G. Yes they almost bankrupted the club, but atleast they they seem to care about winning, and back their manager with transfer funds even if a lot of that money was wasted.

Here is another thing. I don't believe that Klopp buys the players that he would really like. ie if it was his club and his money the players we see would be his choices
not groups for player chosen by a transfer committee and Klopp asked to chose one or two.
Rodgers claimed as much. point in question Dominic Solanke and Klopp saying that it was the scouts who pointed him out to the club, alluding to that it was the clubs choice to buy him
I believe why klopp does not make this known is somewhere in his contract is a non disclosure clause preventing him from doing so

I would reall love to know just how many who thought FSG were great owners when the first came to the club believes that now.

I would love for the owners of Newcastle to have bought LFC instead

FSG will sell either Salah, Mane or both come the summer window
Holy crap

Under G&H we won fuck all, hired Hodgson, and the club nearly went into administration
Under FSG we hired Klopp, won the European Cup & the league and have the best keeper, best centre back and best striker in the world, plus a few other debateable "best in world" positions

But you would prefer we had H&G.

I can accept that FSG are lizards and leave a lot to be desired, but you are seriously screwed up if you would prefer the cowboys over them.

Oh hang on ... maybe the dollar bills we used to hire Klopp and Salah, had "Former property of Hicks & Gillette" felt tipped onto them. Then it would make sense
 
Holy crap

Under G&H we won fuck all, hired Hodgson, and the club nearly went into administration
Under FSG we hired Klopp, won the European Cup & the league and have the best keeper, best centre back and best striker in the world, plus a few other debateable "best in world" positions

But you would prefer we had H&G.

I can accept that FSG are lizards and leave a lot to be desired, but you are seriously screwed up if you would prefer the cowboys over them.

Oh hang on ... maybe the dollar bills we used to hire Klopp and Salah, had "Former property of Hicks & Gillette" felt tipped onto them. Then it would make sense

I accpet all things H&G done wrongbut what we won, or did not win was down to the managers...
I notice you wher quick to point out that they hired Hodgson, but was not Rafa there before him..? and he had money and the choice of players he choose.
What we did not win was down to him
There where many things wrong with H&G and the way they ran things, but at least they backed the manager money wise
 
Tonight has added another 50k to his wage demands.

Or has shown we may have to sell him for 100-200 million, as no one will buy mane or bobby and start rebuilding the squad.
This squad is just bang average -
Maybe Klopp will leave early in light of this shit, which he's partially responsible for.
 
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