I guess he had FA pay up the £600.000 he didnt get from the Far East guys in the end, and walked away feeling smart!!!
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I guess he had FA pay up the £600.000 he didnt get from the Far East guys in the end, and walked away feeling smart!!!
Well it's better than last time when I called him Nigel Worthingtom for about a week! 😀
He'll be managing Stoke by the end of October.
I'm not sure I agree this has embarrassed the FA. If they should be embarrassed it's for appointing the fucker in the first place. On this particular matter, they've been shafted by a dodgy employee and within hours of finding out they've parted company with him. As far as the allegations and how they've handled them are concerned, what more could they have done?
Sacking a manager you appointed 67 days ago after only one game is so amazingly, obviously embarrassing, I'm not sure how this is even a question.
Of course you could say that they shouldn't have appointed him, but that's irrelevant. His previous entanglements with transfer bungs and inappropriate behaviour of his agent and son in transfer dealings were no secret - to the FA or anyone else - and weren't used as a big enough reason to NOT give him the job when he was being interviewed, by them or the media.
Cos he's a gent and untouchable
They're all Sam Allardyce
So Warnock, Pardew and Allardyce. All Rafa haters and not quiet about it either. I hope he's enjoying his Rioja.
"By mutual consent" with a 7 figure pay off apparently. I'd like to be sacked like that.
The 8 are:
Redknapp at West Ham
Redknapp at Southampton
Redknapp at Portsmouth
Redknapp at Spurs
Redknapp at...etc etc
Redknapp at West Ham
Redknapp at Southampton
Redknapp at Portsmouth
Redknapp at Spurs
Redknapp at...etc etc
Probably some hysteric bullshit back to the George Graham days...
Question is which one did what..
They're all black? Harsh
Somehow I dont see Moyes in there. Not sure why...
Indeed, and isn't this exactly the point? Sam was very much known for being dodgy and morally questionable, but the FA didn't care, why? Because the media didn't care at that time, and the FAs drive for integrity and high standards only exists when the media demands it. The Andre Gray case is yet another example of it, and perfectly sums up the double standards and reactionism the FA lives by, if they truly cared about the integrity of the game they'd have charged him when he was a nobody, but they don't and didn't, they just care about appearing to be progressive when the situation demands it.
So, the events of the last few days are embarrassing for the FA, but they probably won't see it like that as only a few in the press will portray it like that, they'll portray it as Big Sam fucking up his chance, abusing the trust the FA put in him etc, and they'll completely ignore the fact that any cunt with an iota of foresight could have seen this coming a mile away, and that if the FA gave even a fifth of a fuck about the integrity of the game, they'd have never gone anywhere near him.
I fucking hate the FA.
Excellent post, agree 100%. It's all about image with them, the irony being that theirs is already far, far worse than they realise.
Exactly. The Bebe transfer is without doubt a backhanded payment from Utd to Jorge Mendes. They had a stack of his players at the time. If they weren't in on it and he stitched them up for £9m worth of 3rd division player then they would never have done business with him again. The fact that he represents the likes of DiMaria Falcao Mourinho and so on means they were in on it.
Was allerdyce known for being 'dodgy' and 'morally questionable'? I'm not sure he was, he was known for being a bit of a tool and having his sides playing clogger football and being the ultimate Cockroache in the relegation world but that's about it.
I don't feel sorry for him but he's hardly the exception here so it's arguably bad luck that he's been caught as this undoubtedly hopes for deeper and further than the 8 purported names
I don't feel sorry for him but he's hardly the exception here so it's arguably bad luck that he's been caught as this undoubtedly hopes for deeper and further than the 8 purported names
The answer to your first question there is a resounding "yes". Allardyce and his son were accused by "Panorama" of such dealings a decade ago. He threatened to sue the BBC over it, and they're still waiting.
A player Ferguson admitted he never ever watched before he signed him if I remember correctly?
The reason I believe Moyes is innocent is probably because he actually send someone to scout a player at Fiorentina (koldrup), and ended up scouting someone the scout thought was Koldrup but was just someone that happened to be a good defender. Hence the report was good and Moyes bought Koldrup. It proved to be a disaster, but more down to incompetence than dodgy business!!!
Allardyce 'took bungs' claims BBC investigation
- By Sam Wallace and Nick Harris
- Tuesday 19 September 2006
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Sam Allardyce, the Bolton manager, was last night accused of receiving transfer bung payments in the BBC Panorama undercover sting into corruption in football and there was another "tapping-up" allegation against Chelsea - which, if proved, could leave the Premiership champions open to a damaging points deduction.
The eagerly anticipated BBC investigation has been the source of fascination and anxiety within English football since it emerged earlier this month that it had uncovered evidence about some of the biggest names in the game.
The investigation focused on Allardyce and Chelsea's director of youth football, Frank Arnesen, who is accused of making an illegal approach to Nathan Porritt, 16, a highly rated academy player at Middlesbrough.
The case against Allardyce, a candidate for the England manager's job last season, will attract the most attention and centres on the relationship between his son Craig, a former agent, and Peter Harrison, another licensed football agent. Harrison is secretly filmed boasting that he makes payments to Craig in order to bribe Sam to carry out transfers. On film Harrison says: "If I say, 'Listen, Sam, I'll give Craig some money'... he'll say, 'Yeah, OK, we'll do a deal.'"
The allegations of bung-taking made by Panorama have been denied by Allardyce, who told them that he has never, according to the BBC, " taken, asked for or received a bung".
Speaking after Bolton's 3-1 Carling Cup win at Walsall last night, Allardyce said: "I'll make a statement at some point, but you have to understand that I am doing my job and tonight has been very difficult.
"I'm aware of the situation, of course, but because I haven't seen anything of the programme, I need to have a look at that and take a view of it before I make any comment whatsoever. But if there are things being said wrong about Sam Allardyce, then believe me, I will be fighting them."
According to the BBC, Allardyce said "he would not condone any breaches of the FA rules whatever personal affection he has for his son". Before Bolton's match last night a Bolton spokesman told The Independent he was unavailable for comment.
With Lord Stevens' inquiry into corruption in English football to report on 2 October, there is great scrutiny of the financial propriety of the game and Allardyce has already pledged to defend his reputation.
The 51-year-old is a heroic figure at Bolton. He took the club into the Premiership in 2001 and has kept them there, reaching the 2004 Carling Cup final along the way, with a team shrewdly built on foreign players on short-term contracts.
The allegations against Allardyce are complicated and involve payments made to his son Craig via other agents in return, it is alleged by the Panorama investigation, for Sam spending the club's money on certain players. Panorama also makes allegations that it has secretly filmed evidence from two other agents who claim to have made illegal payments to the Bolton manager one personally.
The programme also claims to have evidence that three specific player transfers involved payments to Craig Allardyce despite the fact, the BBC claims, that he was banned at the time from doing deals for Bolton.
Those transfers are identified as the signings of the Israeli defender Tal Ben Haim, who arrived in July 2004, the Japanese midfielder Hidetoshi Nakata, who played last season and has since retired, and the goalkeeper Ali Al-Habsi from Oman, signed in January. The Panorama investigation alleges that Craig received "around £50,000" for the Ben Haim deal.
In the Nakata and Al-Habsi deals, the agent secretly paying Craig, the BBC alleges, was Harrison. It was by duping Harrison into believing that the BBC undercover reporters were investors interested in buying his business that they were able to secure information about, as well as access to, Craig Allardyce.
The Independent understands that Arnesen's approach was made in December last year, and a Middlesbrough source has confirmed that no permission was sought.
In a meeting with the player's agent, Harrison, Arnesen is said to have offered a financial inducement to the player via Harrison to move to Chelsea. At the meeting Arnesen apparently said he was willing to offer Porritt, then 15, £150,000 over three years to move to Stamford Bridge.
In the secretly filmed footage, Harrison suggested of Porritt it was " 99.9 per cent sure he's leaving Middlesbrough". Arnesen said: " One-fifty thousand spread in three years and we can do it like a royalty bonus and this and this. Salary we can talk about that."
Arnesen offered the money, even discussing how he would deploy Porritt in a specific formation. Harrison was filmed admitting that Middlesbrough did not know he was touting Porritt around. Harrison also offered the player to Liverpool. In the event, Porritt, now 16, decided against moving to Chelsea and stayed at Middlesbrough. He signed forms to become a Boro academy player this summer.
Chelsea declined to comment last night, saying a statement would be issued if necessary, after the programme had been transmitted. Club officials privately insist there is no chance of being docked points, even though that spectre apparently hangs over them after being found guilty of "tapping up" Ashley Cole last year.
In June 2005, Chelsea were handed a suspended three-point deduction for that offence, the penalty suspended for a year. In other words, if they were found guilty of another offence, in the 2005-06 season, the penalty would be applied.
Chelsea privately believe that because the Cole offence contravened Rule K of Premier League rules governing players' contracts they would have to be found guilty of another Rule K breach to be hit with a points deduction. An unauthorised approach for Porritt, however if proven, and Chelsea will argue they broke no industry rules would fall under Rule N, governing youth development.
This logic was backed up by a Premier League insider, who said: "In practical terms, the rules effectively say it's not as serious an offence to tap up a youth player as an established player." But the League will not decide what, if any action to take, until reviewing last night's programme. It has not definitively ruled out action against Chelsea.
Leeds United have already succeeded in obtaining an inquiry into their allegation that Chelsea illegally approached three of their academy players last year. That is a joint FA and Premier League venture and is under way. Leeds claimed that Chelsea signed Michael Woods and Tom Taiwo after making illegal approaches, while a third player, Danny Rose, spurned Chelsea's approach.
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