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The Depression that i get.

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Oncy

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Im so depressed now. I thought we would win this game, i thought we would win this trophy. I just felt it inside. That im too good a person to be this badly shite on for a whole season.
I don’t know what weve done to deserve this seriously i don’t. Ive given Rafa a bunch of shit for most of the season, just really for someone to blame for all of our shortcomings, when in truth hes as much a victim as i am.
Im totally lost tonight, not just because we have lost a semi final and it hurts, not just because i look out at the players on show tonight and think they just aren’t up to scratch, not just because Manchester United have every chance of being the most successful domestic team in England. But most of all because we are so far behind, or have lagged so far from where we need to be that it just doesn’t seem feasible that a summer (in particular one with a world cup slap bang in the middle of it) is going to be in any way enough to even begin to address all the problems we have as a club right now. And that fact makes me desperately miserable because it means we have another season of nothing but transition and instability to come. And a season with no European cup football.
Will we have money? Will we have new owners? If we do get them we need them within about a month for it to give us any hope of setting off next season with more than a passing hope of winning anything at all. Most importantly where do we go from here when it comes to the league? Do we have a manager who can win it?
How far away is our team from competing at the top level? How far away is our squad from sustaining any kind of challenge?
Its torn me apart this season, because i believed so whole heartedly that we would do it. I don’t think i will ever feel sure that we even can do it again. I used to go into every single season thinking that maybe wed get it right this year. But this year. THIS YEAR i actually believed we would win it. All the bad luck, bad choices, bad play, bad tactics, bad management and bad attitude was the ruination of everything i hoped for. I don’t blame Rafa for everything. He was shit on by bad decisions early on this year. He has had rubbish luck again with injuries and worst of all the press in this country hate him and have taken great pleasure in ripping him apart this year. That said hes made too many mistakes and left us with what can only be described as a paper thin squad. The real and genuine concern now being of course that Carragher is into his 30’s as will Gerrard be by pre season, if he remains loyal to the club. The vultures will be circling ready to pick off Torres, Mascherano, Reina etc should the owners new or old blink. Thats a massive concern, but its just one bubble in a frothing sea of worry and stress about the coming months.
Firstly will we find a buyer. Will they be sound financially and have the interests of the club at heart. When we last sold out club it was apparently with the intention of finding sound and decent football people to take us forward and look how that worked out. So what can we expect from two shyter crooks? Surely they will just take the top money they can get for us and damn the torpedoes. If thats the case then what will we get? Asset stripers? We need sound financial people but people who understand football and our club and history and its weight and its place in our hearts and its place at the centre of its community and fanaticism and love and pride. Wether we get that or not i worry. We are climbing out of the frying pan but into what?
Rafa. Is he staying, is he going. If he stays can he learn. Can he change. All the evidence suggests he just cant change and what we see is what we get and that if he stays we will see more of the same. Will that be good enough if indeed he is supported financially. Will better players playing under the same rigid stoical tactics breathe new life into the club or will it be more of the same but with different letters on the back of our shirts? If he goes where do we go from here? For sale, rudderless, out of Europe, paper thin squad, disaffected playing staff, an entire coaching staff and system selected by and geared towards the former manager. Jeesus.
Torres. Injury. Is that it now, can we expect an Owen like decline as more and more muscles and ligaments boom and ping all over the place. So what do we do. The offers will come the offers will be worth taking a moment to soak in, but do you sell and start again, or do you stick with a player who its looking strongly like will only be able to play half a season for the rest of his career. Does the money we receive if he is sold go to this leveraged debt or to Rafa or to a new manager.
Im starting to think the best thing for the club in these trying times is *spits* to keep Rafa.
Im really unhappy and depressed and i cant even look forward to the weeks preceeding the next season because once again those premiership years programmes will just mention us in passing and then roll on Neville or Terry holding up a trophy we have never even lifted.
And what of Manchester City. What of Arsenal, they will get it right eventually. They earn ONE MILLION pounds more per home game than us. They have these kids and Vermaelen, Rosicky, Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie, Diaby, Song they aren’t far away from getting it bang right. The other Manchester team will spend, as will Chelsea and Tottenham will strengthen for sure in particular if they pip City into Europe.
I don’t know what hope i can take from what we have seen since August, there isn’t a single absolute positive i can think of. Torre (what if he stay injured) Gerrard (what if he leaves) Mascherano (going)....Wait....i Have one

Reina. I love you Pepe you baldy wonderful cunt.
 
Good post Oncy and I feel exactly the same. I can offer no rays of light, I've been saying the same as you for months. I made a similar thread a few months ago asking how are we going to get out of this shite, and I still can't see how. My love for the sport is waining and the football club is in decline and entering a new era of uncertainty. I think it could all get worse. With Gerrard getting on and past his best I think we've missed our best chance to win the league, and I honestly can't ever envisage us winning the league. It's that bad in my eyes.
 
[quote author=ILD link=topic=40014.msg1096472#msg1096472 date=1272582936]
Masher going?
[/quote]Hes fucking bound too.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=40014.msg1096469#msg1096469 date=1272582826]
You've got a lovely wife and beautiful daughter. Football's not that important.
[/quote]Mate i think i owe it to her to never EVER let her watch us or take any interest in us again. Its tantamount to child abuse letting her become a red.
 
Sit back

Reflect

Shrug your shoulders

Watch your favourite film

Listen to your favourite album

Play your bestest game

Have a day out with your family

Go on the piss with your mates

Read a book

Reflect

Be happy
 
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[quote author=ILD link=topic=40014.msg1096472#msg1096472 date=1272582936]
Masher going?
[/quote]Hes fucking bound too.
[/quote]

But who'll have poker night with Tevez when he joins?
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40014.msg1096476#msg1096476 date=1272583041]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=40014.msg1096469#msg1096469 date=1272582826]
You've got a lovely wife and beautiful daughter. Football's not that important.
[/quote]Mate i think i owe it to her to never EVER let her watch us or take any interest in us again. Its tantamount to child abuse letting her become a red.
[/quote]

Andy. I know I try and make out that I'm all nonchelant and it's not important but my lad has started getting into it. He's a die hard Red already. He knows we hate Rooney despite his best mate in school being Rooney's nephew. He knows we hate United. He won't buy a magazine if it has Utd on the front cover. He rips any Match Attax or Panini stickers up that are Utd players. I let him stay up and watch the first half and said I'd tape the rest and let him watch it tomorrow. He demanded I didn't tell him the score. He asked me if Gerrard takes all the corners cos he's the captain. I look at him and think back on all the brilliant times I've had watching us home and abroad, the friends I've made, the mad nights I've had, the joy, the despair. You can't deny them that mate. They're the future of LFC and it's down to us to teach them the Liverpool Way.
 
This season can't end quick enough for me.
The great thing about international football is that once England go out I still enjoy the games and in every match I want someone to win so I still watch and invest my time in it. Domestic football isn't the same. Basically because I fucking hate every other team, and the thought of any team winning any fucking thing makes me feel sick.
So now I just don't give a fuck. Who wins the league? Don't give a fuck. Fa cup? Don't give a fuck. Europe? Don't give a fuck. Every other team can fuck off and die. Every tournament can fuck off and die.
Fuck football.

*till June*
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40014.msg1096546#msg1096546 date=1272587964]
This season can't end quick enough for me.
The great thing about international football is that once England go out I still enjoy the games and in every match I want someone to win so I still watch and invest my time in it. Domestic football isn't the same. Basically because I fucking hate every other team, and the thought of any team winning any fucking thing makes me feel sick.
So now I just don't give a fuck. Who wins the league? Don't give a fuck. Fa cup? Don't give a fuck. Europe? Don't give a fuck. Every other team can fuck off and die. Every tournament can fuck off and die.
Fuck football.

*till June*
[/quote]

agreed..

watching the types of West Ham and Wigan play a million times better football than us makes me cry.

hibernation.
 
[quote author=Roopy link=topic=40014.msg1096553#msg1096553 date=1272588475]
Have an e, you'll feel much better about life.... albeit for a few hours.
[/quote]Drugs are for losers.
 
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=40014.msg1096559#msg1096559 date=1272588887]
Am I the only one who doesn't want Fulham to win the fucking thing?
[/quote]

I wouldn't mind it if Fulham won - would be stoked for Danny Murphy.

But wouldn't mind seeing Atleti win it - El Nino's club, and also so they can stick it to Real Madrid 🙂
 
Everytime I see the title for this thread I think of that "I got another confession to make..." tune. Who was that, the Foo Fighters?

Anyway, it's in my head, and fucking me off.

Cheers Oncy.
 
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=40014.msg1096559#msg1096559 date=1272588887]
Am I the only one who doesn't want Fulham to win the fucking thing?
[/quote]

No. They deserve to after what they've done in the competition this season, but I've got a mental block about wishing other English sides success.

The problem is that I really don't like A.Madrid. They're just a team I don't like, full of players I don't like and I really don't want to see the likes of Reyes, Forlan and Simao picking up a trophy.

So... Fulham it is.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40014.msg1096546#msg1096546 date=1272587964]
This season can't end quick enough for me.
The great thing about international football is that once England go out I still enjoy the games and in every match I want someone to win so I still watch and invest my time in it. Domestic football isn't the same. Basically because I fucking hate every other team, and the thought of any team winning any fucking thing makes me feel sick.
So now I just don't give a fuck. Who wins the league? Don't give a fuck. Fa cup? Don't give a fuck. Europe? Don't give a fuck. Every other team can fuck off and die. Every tournament can fuck off and die.
Fuck football.

*till June*
[/quote]

Ha! I know how you feel.

And the first post is depressing as fuck, but hey we've all been there this season. It's worrying times for Liverpool supporters and the only hope for change is rooted in some pipe dream that a new owner will come along and bankroll a massive spending spree that'll make it all better again. Poo.
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=40014.msg1096614#msg1096614 date=1272608308]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=40014.msg1096559#msg1096559 date=1272588887]
Am I the only one who doesn't want Fulham to win the fucking thing?
[/quote]

No. They deserve to after what they've done in the competition this season, but I've got a mental block about wishing other English sides success.

The problem is that I really don't like A.Madrid. They're just a team I don't like, full of players I don't like and I really don't want to see the likes of Reyes, Forlan and Simao picking up a trophy.

So... Fulham it is.
[/quote]

I could not have put it better myself well said.
I would be good to see Danny Murphy lift the cup come on Fulham
 
See, this is why I said I'd feel sorry for Oncy when England get knocked out of the World Cup.

I just get the sense there is a massive sense of apathy surrounding the club, players and fans are clearly affected by it. I think we need to do something drastic this summer and if we do I'll fully support any efforts to rebuild the club. If we go and do more of the same it doesn't matter how much money we give Benitez, we won't get to where we should be.
 
I can't believe how utterly depressed that game has left me feeling. I'm gutted even now and I feel utterly drained.
 
It's not just this season, for the most part, it's been like this for the last 20.

I suggest you take some time away from the forum and get some fresh air.

I'm quite cuntish on this forum, simply cause it stirs both pain and anger everytime I think of Liverpool fc.
 
Good post Oncy.

We've just got to hope and pray mate, that over the next couple of months the changes are made that will give us all renewed belief in our club again.
 
The disappointment of the fans last night was horrible. But showing the class of the fans we applauded Athleti off and applauded their fans.

At the end of the day, we may be a football club, but we are Liverpool Football Club, and no matter how dark it may get, we will always find the glimmer of hope and optimism, the humour and the banter, and the passion and desire to overcome any difficulties.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=40014.msg1096488#msg1096488 date=1272583669]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40014.msg1096476#msg1096476 date=1272583041]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=40014.msg1096469#msg1096469 date=1272582826]
You've got a lovely wife and beautiful daughter. Football's not that important.
[/quote]Mate i think i owe it to her to never EVER let her watch us or take any interest in us again. Its tantamount to child abuse letting her become a red.
[/quote]

Andy. I know I try and make out that I'm all nonchelant and it's not important but my lad has started getting into it. He's a die hard Red already. He knows we hate Rooney despite his best mate in school being Rooney's nephew. He knows we hate United. He won't buy a magazine if it has Utd on the front cover. He rips any Match Attax or Panini stickers up that are Utd players. I let him stay up and watch the first half and said I'd tape the rest and let him watch it tomorrow. He demanded I didn't tell him the score. He asked me if Gerrard takes all the corners cos he's the captain. I look at him and think back on all the brilliant times I've had watching us home and abroad, the friends I've made, the mad nights I've had, the joy, the despair. You can't deny them that mate. They're the future of LFC and it's down to us to teach them the Liverpool Way.


[/quote]Sleeping on it has certainly helped. I'm still fucking devastated by the evenings events, and it's nearly making me cry thinking about Molly waving her little flag and her celebrating when we scored. It was the first time we shared football. The first time we really bonded over it and she loved it. Her little comonlibpoo when she was half asleep made my heart soar. I think maybe that's why I'm so depressed about it. For her. She was sooo fucking happy.
But now I'm thinking and trying to be positive about what was essentially a wonderful experience with her.
Misred was out last night at a work thing so it was just me and Molly all day and we watched the Torres thing on lfctv and she was saying things like 'torres is the best player in the world ever daddy' and I was in heaven. I asked her about 4pm if shed like to stay up and watch the match with me and I've never seen her happier. As the game approached I sent her to get her pjs on and she asked if she could wear her liverpool top over her pyjamas and I of course aquiesced. Then she brought her Liverpool bear that her ma bought her and her little flag down and I made her a hot chocolate and as you'll never walk alone played she stood up waving her little flag. I was in heaven. Some of the best moments of my life right there.
'do gals play football?'
'of course they do'
'i want to play football when I'm a big gal'
'you know that flag is England and this is liverpool'
'this is for Steven gerrard though'
'fair enough'
'he said babel daddy, which babel is that?'
'ryan babel, the other babel doesn't play anymore'
(she was asking me all the players names when I was writing that myth of fingerprints thing the other day)
then she saw torres In the crowd and flipped out. I explained that he hurt his knee and couldn't play
'like you hurt you're knees when you play?'
'no those are just scrapes, fernando had surgery at the doctors'
'oh well he can play later'
brilliant. It was brilliant.
I thought we'd win, she was really into it. And her celebration of the goal was right up there with any wonderous feeling I've ever had.
Now I feel so bad for her. She doesn't even care probably, I told her this morning we lost.
'It doesn't matter, well win next time'
'well it's England next, the world cup. That's when countries play'
'Will torres be there?'
'yes'
'good daddy....TORRESSSSS......can I have an apple'
 
That's lovely, that's how Liverpool fans are made.

Liverpool brought my dad and I together throughout our lives, even when we had a rocky relationship. Watching us lose was good too. It's the togetherness that's important and the thing I'll cherish.
 
Yep I feel a bit better now.
A season on the blink? Certainly. But maybe I did get something out of it, from an unlikely source.
 
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