The Death Spiral
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let me get my head around this...
We are in a death spiral....(ok may be you have a point here. evidence backs you up)
You also think that it doesn't matter who the manager is, and that our decline can't be stopped by just changing the manager....(you are right here. Manager is not our only problem)
So obviously the solution to stop all of this is sack the manager and give the job to Rafa...this solves everything.
riiight....
We are in a death spiral....(ok may be you have a point here. evidence backs you up)
You also think that it doesn't matter who the manager is, and that our decline can't be stopped by just changing the manager....(you are right here. Manager is not our only problem)
So obviously the solution to stop all of this is sack the manager and give the job to Rafa...this solves everything.
riiight....
Let see Loew look smart in one of these Bad Boys. Rafa would look the part. Your jumper philosophy has just been shattered.
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=43487.msg1245996#msg1245996 date=1294439941]
Let see Loew look smart in one of these Bad Boys. Rafa would look the part. Your jumper philosophy has just been shattered.
[/quote]The part of what? Overweight man in ill fitting culturally incorrect jumper.
Aye, yuv me bate.
Let see Loew look smart in one of these Bad Boys. Rafa would look the part. Your jumper philosophy has just been shattered.
[/quote]The part of what? Overweight man in ill fitting culturally incorrect jumper.
Aye, yuv me bate.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=43487.msg1246000#msg1246000 date=1294440149]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=43487.msg1245996#msg1245996 date=1294439941]
Let see Loew look smart in one of these Bad Boys. Rafa would look the part. Your jumper philosophy has just been shattered.
[/quote]The part of what? Overweight man in ill fitting culturally incorrect jumper.
Aye, yuv me bate.
[/quote]
Yer well bate wee mon. Could Loew carry off that iconic British jumper? No, he couldnae.
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=43487.msg1245996#msg1245996 date=1294439941]
Let see Loew look smart in one of these Bad Boys. Rafa would look the part. Your jumper philosophy has just been shattered.
[/quote]The part of what? Overweight man in ill fitting culturally incorrect jumper.
Aye, yuv me bate.
[/quote]
Yer well bate wee mon. Could Loew carry off that iconic British jumper? No, he couldnae.
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=43487.msg1246002#msg1246002 date=1294440277]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=43487.msg1246000#msg1246000 date=1294440149]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=43487.msg1245996#msg1245996 date=1294439941]
Let see Loew look smart in one of these Bad Boys. Rafa would look the part. Your jumper philosophy has just been shattered.
[/quote]The part of what? Overweight man in ill fitting culturally incorrect jumper.
Aye, yuv me bate.
[/quote]
Yer well bate wee mon. Could Loew carry off that iconic British jumper? No, he couldnae.
[/quote]Yer man Loew's cunt and i ne'ar named thon cunt so up yer hoop wee la.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=43487.msg1246000#msg1246000 date=1294440149]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=43487.msg1245996#msg1245996 date=1294439941]
Let see Loew look smart in one of these Bad Boys. Rafa would look the part. Your jumper philosophy has just been shattered.
[/quote]The part of what? Overweight man in ill fitting culturally incorrect jumper.
Aye, yuv me bate.
[/quote]
Yer well bate wee mon. Could Loew carry off that iconic British jumper? No, he couldnae.
[/quote]Yer man Loew's cunt and i ne'ar named thon cunt so up yer hoop wee la.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=43487.msg1246003#msg1246003 date=1294440336]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=43487.msg1246002#msg1246002 date=1294440277]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=43487.msg1246000#msg1246000 date=1294440149]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=43487.msg1245996#msg1245996 date=1294439941]
Let see Loew look smart in one of these Bad Boys. Rafa would look the part. Your jumper philosophy has just been shattered.
[/quote]The part of what? Overweight man in ill fitting culturally incorrect jumper.
Aye, yuv me bate.
[/quote]
Yer well bate wee mon. Could Loew carry off that iconic British jumper? No, he couldnae.
[/quote]Yer man Loew's cunt and i ne'ar named thon cunt so up yer hoop wee la.
[/quote]
Yiv takin yer batin qware bad.
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=43487.msg1246002#msg1246002 date=1294440277]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=43487.msg1246000#msg1246000 date=1294440149]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=43487.msg1245996#msg1245996 date=1294439941]
Let see Loew look smart in one of these Bad Boys. Rafa would look the part. Your jumper philosophy has just been shattered.
[/quote]The part of what? Overweight man in ill fitting culturally incorrect jumper.
Aye, yuv me bate.
[/quote]
Yer well bate wee mon. Could Loew carry off that iconic British jumper? No, he couldnae.
[/quote]Yer man Loew's cunt and i ne'ar named thon cunt so up yer hoop wee la.
[/quote]
Yiv takin yer batin qware bad.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=43487.msg1246006#msg1246006 date=1294440437]
Im watching the Longest Day as we speak and Kenneth More is sporting a gem of a jumper like that'n
I love kenneth more, he's fucking boss in everything as yer archy....archet.....typical brit.
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Anyone who isn't in the army who wears one of those jumpers should be locked up though. Deffo likely to go on a killing spree at some stage.
Im watching the Longest Day as we speak and Kenneth More is sporting a gem of a jumper like that'n
I love kenneth more, he's fucking boss in everything as yer archy....archet.....typical brit.
[/quote]
Anyone who isn't in the army who wears one of those jumpers should be locked up though. Deffo likely to go on a killing spree at some stage.
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=43487.msg1246009#msg1246009 date=1294440535]
The servant on the Shipwrecked Island?
Was it lord Jim or something like that?
My wife cried when he died, she fuckin fancied him like anything
[/quote]Aye thats a beauty. Its called Mr Colleridge or summat. He's the butler.
The servant on the Shipwrecked Island?
Was it lord Jim or something like that?
My wife cried when he died, she fuckin fancied him like anything
[/quote]Aye thats a beauty. Its called Mr Colleridge or summat. He's the butler.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=43487.msg1246015#msg1246015 date=1294441168]
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=43487.msg1246009#msg1246009 date=1294440535]
The servant on the Shipwrecked Island?
Was it lord Jim or something like that?
My wife cried when he died, she fuckin fancied him like anything
[/quote]Aye thats a beauty. Its called Mr Colleridge or summat. He's the butler.
[/quote]
Bloody 'ell he was a busy lad:
Filmography
Look Up and Laugh (1935) (uncredited bit part)
Windmill Revels (1937) (uncredited bit part)
Carry On London (1937) (bit part)
The Silence of the Sea (1946) (TV)
School for Secrets (1946)
Toad of Toad Hall (1946) (TV)
Scott of the Antarctic (1948)
Man on the Run (1949)
Now Barabbas (1949)
Stop Press Girl (1949)
Morning Departure (1950)
Chance of a Lifetime (1950)
The Clouded Yellow (1951)
The Franchise Affair (1951)
The Galloping Major (1951)
No Highway (1951) (uncredited)
Appointment with Venus (1951)
Brandy for the Parson (1952)
The Yellow Balloon (1953)
Never Let Me Go (1953)
Genevieve (1953)
Our Girl Friday (1953)
Doctor in the House (1954)
The Man Who Loved Redheads (1955) (voice)
Raising a Riot (1955)
The Deep Blue Sea (1955)
Reach for the Sky (1956)
The Admirable Crichton (1957)
The Sheriff of Fractured Jaw (1958)
A Night to Remember (1958)
Next to No Time (1958)
North West Frontier (1959)
The Thirty-Nine Steps (1959)
Sink the Bismarck! (1960)
Man in the Moon (1960)
The Greengage Summer (1961)
We Joined the Navy (1962)
Heart to Heart (1962) (TV)
Some People (1962)
The Longest Day (1962)
The Comedy Man (1964)
The Collector (1965) (uncredited)
Lord Raingo (1966) (TV)
The Forsyte Saga (1967) (TV)
Dark of the S**, also known as The Mercenaries (1968)
Fräulein Doktor (1969)
Oh! What a Lovely War (1969)
Battle of Britain (1969)
Scrooge (1970)
Father Brown (1974) (TV)
Viaje al centro de la Tierra (1978)
The Slipper and the Rose: The Story of Cinderella (1976)
Leopard in the Snow (1978)
An Englishman's Castle (1978) (TV)
The Spaceman and King Arthur (1979)
A Tale of Two Cities (1980) (TV)
Think its the bolded one
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=43487.msg1246009#msg1246009 date=1294440535]
The servant on the Shipwrecked Island?
Was it lord Jim or something like that?
My wife cried when he died, she fuckin fancied him like anything
[/quote]Aye thats a beauty. Its called Mr Colleridge or summat. He's the butler.
[/quote]
Bloody 'ell he was a busy lad:
Filmography
Look Up and Laugh (1935) (uncredited bit part)
Windmill Revels (1937) (uncredited bit part)
Carry On London (1937) (bit part)
The Silence of the Sea (1946) (TV)
School for Secrets (1946)
Toad of Toad Hall (1946) (TV)
Scott of the Antarctic (1948)
Man on the Run (1949)
Now Barabbas (1949)
Stop Press Girl (1949)
Morning Departure (1950)
Chance of a Lifetime (1950)
The Clouded Yellow (1951)
The Franchise Affair (1951)
The Galloping Major (1951)
No Highway (1951) (uncredited)
Appointment with Venus (1951)
Brandy for the Parson (1952)
The Yellow Balloon (1953)
Never Let Me Go (1953)
Genevieve (1953)
Our Girl Friday (1953)
Doctor in the House (1954)
The Man Who Loved Redheads (1955) (voice)
Raising a Riot (1955)
The Deep Blue Sea (1955)
Reach for the Sky (1956)
The Admirable Crichton (1957)
The Sheriff of Fractured Jaw (1958)
A Night to Remember (1958)
Next to No Time (1958)
North West Frontier (1959)
The Thirty-Nine Steps (1959)
Sink the Bismarck! (1960)
Man in the Moon (1960)
The Greengage Summer (1961)
We Joined the Navy (1962)
Heart to Heart (1962) (TV)
Some People (1962)
The Longest Day (1962)
The Comedy Man (1964)
The Collector (1965) (uncredited)
Lord Raingo (1966) (TV)
The Forsyte Saga (1967) (TV)
Dark of the S**, also known as The Mercenaries (1968)
Fräulein Doktor (1969)
Oh! What a Lovely War (1969)
Battle of Britain (1969)
Scrooge (1970)
Father Brown (1974) (TV)
Viaje al centro de la Tierra (1978)
The Slipper and the Rose: The Story of Cinderella (1976)
Leopard in the Snow (1978)
An Englishman's Castle (1978) (TV)
The Spaceman and King Arthur (1979)
A Tale of Two Cities (1980) (TV)
Think its the bolded one
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=43487.msg1246013#msg1246013 date=1294441073]
I'd be more scared walking past 4 hoodies than 4 lads in Jumpers like that.
I'd be fucking terrified walking past 4 lads in fuckin Balaclava's
[/quote]
4 lads together would be saddos into military magazines. It's the lone fucker wearing one of those who is going to take you out with a rifle.
I'd be more scared walking past 4 hoodies than 4 lads in Jumpers like that.
I'd be fucking terrified walking past 4 lads in fuckin Balaclava's
[/quote]
4 lads together would be saddos into military magazines. It's the lone fucker wearing one of those who is going to take you out with a rifle.
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=43487.msg1246021#msg1246021 date=1294441765]
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=43487.msg1246013#msg1246013 date=1294441073]
I'd be more scared walking past 4 hoodies than 4 lads in Jumpers like that.
I'd be fucking terrified walking past 4 lads in fuckin Balaclava's
[/quote]
4 lads together would be saddos into military magazines. It's the lone fucker wearing one of those who is going to take you out with a rifle.
[/quote]Hungerford style.
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=43487.msg1246013#msg1246013 date=1294441073]
I'd be more scared walking past 4 hoodies than 4 lads in Jumpers like that.
I'd be fucking terrified walking past 4 lads in fuckin Balaclava's
[/quote]
4 lads together would be saddos into military magazines. It's the lone fucker wearing one of those who is going to take you out with a rifle.
[/quote]Hungerford style.
when modern planes stall and go into a death spiral, you will not see a pilot desperatlly pulling up on the controls trying to bring the nose back up. all he has to do is let go and sit back, the safety systems on the plane correct the problem unaided. that is called being a good pilot.
if we bring in a manager with the specific intention of getting us out of this mess, the way he goes about that task and his job will ironically be what leads to our death. you can see it already happening with the fucking cunt we have now. we just need a calm relaxed manager that trusts the players and the nature of football games, and just gets on with picking the right team and making the right signings.
we're an absolutely massive club. so long as the manager doesn't preoccupy himself with the club, the finances, politics and mind games, but just gets on with making good decisions, then the club will naturally correct itself and come back to its rightful position. that is the good thing about being liverpool
if we bring in a manager with the specific intention of getting us out of this mess, the way he goes about that task and his job will ironically be what leads to our death. you can see it already happening with the fucking cunt we have now. we just need a calm relaxed manager that trusts the players and the nature of football games, and just gets on with picking the right team and making the right signings.
we're an absolutely massive club. so long as the manager doesn't preoccupy himself with the club, the finances, politics and mind games, but just gets on with making good decisions, then the club will naturally correct itself and come back to its rightful position. that is the good thing about being liverpool
[quote author=monsieurdantes link=topic=43487.msg1246029#msg1246029 date=1294443058]
when modern planes stall and go into a death spiral, you will not see a pilot desperatlly pulling up on the controls trying to bring the nose back up. all he has to do is let go and sit back, the safety systems on the plane correct the problem unaided. that is called being a good pilot.
if we bring in a manager with the specific intention of getting us out of this mess, the way he goes about that task and his job will ironically be what leads to our death. you can see it already happening with the fucking cunt we have now. we just need a calm relaxed manager that trusts the players and the nature of football games, and just gets on with picking the right team and making the right signings.
we're an absolutely massive club. so long as the manager doesn't preoccupy himself with the club, the finances, politics and mind games, but just gets on with making good decisions, then the club will naturally correct itself and come back to its rightful position. that is the good thing about being liverpool
[/quote]
*feels calm with Dantes at control of the thread*
when modern planes stall and go into a death spiral, you will not see a pilot desperatlly pulling up on the controls trying to bring the nose back up. all he has to do is let go and sit back, the safety systems on the plane correct the problem unaided. that is called being a good pilot.
if we bring in a manager with the specific intention of getting us out of this mess, the way he goes about that task and his job will ironically be what leads to our death. you can see it already happening with the fucking cunt we have now. we just need a calm relaxed manager that trusts the players and the nature of football games, and just gets on with picking the right team and making the right signings.
we're an absolutely massive club. so long as the manager doesn't preoccupy himself with the club, the finances, politics and mind games, but just gets on with making good decisions, then the club will naturally correct itself and come back to its rightful position. that is the good thing about being liverpool
[/quote]
*feels calm with Dantes at control of the thread*
The only way to stop the 'death spiral' is for the club to show proper ambition.
Cash available for top players and top potential plus high calibre manager and the atmosphere will lift.
Cash available for top players and top potential plus high calibre manager and the atmosphere will lift.
and i hated the idea of roy exactly because he didn't fit that criteria.
HaHaHaHa ... Benitez 😱
How will that conversation go?
"Errr.. Rafa mi' old mucker, me old mate (nervous 'friendly' punch on shoulder). Good to see you!."
"Now I know we sacked you an all that, and wouldn't pay up your full contract and stuff but you know we were only messing right? We didn't really mean it. 'Course not, we love you."
"Now the guy we put in temporary change has turned out to be a bit of a twat so how would you fancy coming back for 6 months or so and filling in for us whilst we find someone decent?"
Yepp - I can see him signing in an instant. :angel:
How will that conversation go?
"Errr.. Rafa mi' old mucker, me old mate (nervous 'friendly' punch on shoulder). Good to see you!."
"Now I know we sacked you an all that, and wouldn't pay up your full contract and stuff but you know we were only messing right? We didn't really mean it. 'Course not, we love you."
"Now the guy we put in temporary change has turned out to be a bit of a twat so how would you fancy coming back for 6 months or so and filling in for us whilst we find someone decent?"
Yepp - I can see him signing in an instant. :angel:
[quote author=Dee link=topic=43487.msg1246066#msg1246066 date=1294449778]
HaHaHaHa ... Benitez 😱
How will that conversation go?
"Errr.. Rafa mi' old mucker, me old mate (nervous 'friendly' punch on shoulder). Good to see you!."
"Now I know we sacked you an all that, and wouldn't pay up your full contract and stuff but you know we were only messing right? We didn't really mean it. 'Course not, we love you."
"Now the guy we put in temporary change has turned out to be a bit of a twat so how would you fancy coming back for 6 months or so and filling in for us whilst we find someone decent?"
Yepp - I can see him signing in an instant. :angel:
[/quote]
Except the people who let him go arent the one's doing the hiring.
I dont think he'll come, nor should the club ask, but I'm pretty sure he'd come back.
HaHaHaHa ... Benitez 😱
How will that conversation go?
"Errr.. Rafa mi' old mucker, me old mate (nervous 'friendly' punch on shoulder). Good to see you!."
"Now I know we sacked you an all that, and wouldn't pay up your full contract and stuff but you know we were only messing right? We didn't really mean it. 'Course not, we love you."
"Now the guy we put in temporary change has turned out to be a bit of a twat so how would you fancy coming back for 6 months or so and filling in for us whilst we find someone decent?"
Yepp - I can see him signing in an instant. :angel:
[/quote]
Except the people who let him go arent the one's doing the hiring.
I dont think he'll come, nor should the club ask, but I'm pretty sure he'd come back.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=43487.msg1246067#msg1246067 date=1294450234]
[quote author=Dee link=topic=43487.msg1246066#msg1246066 date=1294449778]
HaHaHaHa ... Benitez 😱
How will that conversation go?
"Errr.. Rafa mi' old mucker, me old mate (nervous 'friendly' punch on shoulder). Good to see you!."
"Now I know we sacked you an all that, and wouldn't pay up your full contract and stuff but you know we were only messing right? We didn't really mean it. 'Course not, we love you."
"Now the guy we put in temporary change has turned out to be a bit of a twat so how would you fancy coming back for 6 months or so and filling in for us whilst we find someone decent?"
Yepp - I can see him signing in an instant. :angel:
[/quote]
Except the people who let him go arent the one's doing the hiring.
I dont think he'll come, nor should the club ask, but I'm pretty sure he'd come back.
[/quote]
I'm not, mate. He'd tell the owners he wanted full control again, and the negotiations would end there and then.
[quote author=Dee link=topic=43487.msg1246066#msg1246066 date=1294449778]
HaHaHaHa ... Benitez 😱
How will that conversation go?
"Errr.. Rafa mi' old mucker, me old mate (nervous 'friendly' punch on shoulder). Good to see you!."
"Now I know we sacked you an all that, and wouldn't pay up your full contract and stuff but you know we were only messing right? We didn't really mean it. 'Course not, we love you."
"Now the guy we put in temporary change has turned out to be a bit of a twat so how would you fancy coming back for 6 months or so and filling in for us whilst we find someone decent?"
Yepp - I can see him signing in an instant. :angel:
[/quote]
Except the people who let him go arent the one's doing the hiring.
I dont think he'll come, nor should the club ask, but I'm pretty sure he'd come back.
[/quote]
I'm not, mate. He'd tell the owners he wanted full control again, and the negotiations would end there and then.
[quote author=vantage link=topic=43487.msg1245991#msg1245991 date=1294439269]
Rafa could work and has worked under a DoF. He couldn't however work under a Rick Parry. One had to go.
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Until he decided he couldn't any more. Even if he initially agreed (which I doubt he would), fetching him back to work under Comolli would be a ticking timebomb.
Rafa could work and has worked under a DoF. He couldn't however work under a Rick Parry. One had to go.
[/quote]
Until he decided he couldn't any more. Even if he initially agreed (which I doubt he would), fetching him back to work under Comolli would be a ticking timebomb.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=43487.msg1246116#msg1246116 date=1294480508]
[quote author=vantage link=topic=43487.msg1245991#msg1245991 date=1294439269]
Rafa could work and has worked under a DoF. He couldn't however work under a Rick Parry. One had to go.
[/quote]
Until he decided he couldn't any more. Even if he initially agreed (which I doubt he would), fetching him back to work under Comolli would be a ticking timebomb.
[/quote]
I agree. Rafa needs some time to reflect on his political errors of judgement before he takes on another management role. On current form Rafa would be at loggerheads with Comolli and NESV in no time.
[quote author=vantage link=topic=43487.msg1245991#msg1245991 date=1294439269]
Rafa could work and has worked under a DoF. He couldn't however work under a Rick Parry. One had to go.
[/quote]
Until he decided he couldn't any more. Even if he initially agreed (which I doubt he would), fetching him back to work under Comolli would be a ticking timebomb.
[/quote]
I agree. Rafa needs some time to reflect on his political errors of judgement before he takes on another management role. On current form Rafa would be at loggerheads with Comolli and NESV in no time.
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